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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: Katrina cover-up |
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New Orleans firemen silenced for months; as usual, MSM reports a pack of lies :
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/143.html _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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QuitTheirClogs Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Louisiana Professor sacked for insisting on truth being told about Katrina:
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2010/02/professor-in-louisiana-braves -another-kind-of-storm.html
This is a very useful website, for all sorts of info. 9/11, Diebold, 'whistleblowers' etc. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Thermate 911Reading the next article from the site you posted the bit below sounds ominous?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Gulf-of-Mexico-worst-Case-by-Rob-Kall -100502-823.html
Considering Terrorism, Accidents and Catastrophic Consequences
Let's talk about that report of a N. Korean connection. It's from an obscure site using more obscure un-linked sources. The conspiracy-theory prone will love it. But let's not totally rule out it, or some other potential nefarious intentioned actions. When we start looking into what a leak of a major well can do to damage the US, then questions about targeting of a gulf well, and defense and security for any gulf well become reasonable. What security was in place for that well and all the other wells in the Gulf? What analysis and plans did Homeland Security have for either accidents or intentional attacks on wells that, if damaged, could wreak such devastating consequences.
What kinds of resources would be required to break through whatever security defenses were in place? Who might have those resources?
Now we face an unprecedented catastrophe with world wide consequences and effects. How much preparation and planning has gone into anticipating it, dealing with it?
If this river of oil gets worse, who knows the permanent or long term damage on vast swathes of ocean will be? Who knows how much damage will be done to breeding grounds and hatcheries of sea life and the birds that live off that sea life before they play a role in pollination and seed distribution. From the bottom up, the affects of this one "spill" upon the people and environment and life in the US, this catastrophy is huge and the effects will be enormous. Already delays and underestimation of the problem have allowed delays that are bad news.
We're not hearing much about BP's efforts to close the leaks or cap the well. At a potential 10-15 billion barrels, we're talking about a field that could ultimately yield over a trillion dollars worth of oil. That means BP and it's two partners will look at salvaging the field and perhaps weigh that consideration over the risks to the environment and all the jobs the oil damage will cause.
It's essential that Barack Obama take over operations immediately, directing BP on what to do. There's a possibility that an alternate well can be drilled that would shunt the flow of the oil and control the flow. If that's even possible, who knows how long that will take?
There's another consideration. It's part of that N. Korean conspiracy theory narrative-- the use of a nuclear warhead to close the leak. It's an extreme reaction. We know so little about what effect that will have-- a tsunami or tidal wave? Massive destruction of sea life? Radioactive seawater producing radioactive shrimp and oysters and all the fish that commercial fisherman out of Louisiana catch? Use a nuke or allow the river of oil to flow into and up the Gulf until it is moved all the way to Europe. This is a no-win situation. What if a nuclear explosion sets off other geological activity or worsens the oil release? What if Obama looks at the nuclear option and decides it's a good idea because there are a lot of red-mean Americans who like fireworks who would love to have the US explode a nuclear weapon in their lifetime? |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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conspiracy analyst wrote: | Thermate 911Reading the next article from the site you posted the bit below sounds ominous?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Gulf-of-Mexico-worst-Case-by-Rob-Kall -100502-823.html
Considering Terrorism, Accidents and Catastrophic Consequences
Let's talk about that report of a N. Korean connection. It's from an obscure site using more obscure un-linked sources. The conspiracy-theory prone will love it. But let's not totally rule out it, or some other potential nefarious intentioned actions. When we start looking into what a leak of a major well can do to damage the US, then questions about targeting of a gulf well, and defense and security for any gulf well become reasonable. What security was in place for that well and all the other wells in the Gulf? What analysis and plans did Homeland Security have for either accidents or intentional attacks on wells that, if damaged, could wreak such devastating consequences.
What kinds of resources would be required to break through whatever security defenses were in place? Who might have those resources?
Now we face an unprecedented catastrophe with world wide consequences and effects. How much preparation and planning has gone into anticipating it, dealing with it?
If this river of oil gets worse, who knows the permanent or long term damage on vast swathes of ocean will be? Who knows how much damage will be done to breeding grounds and hatcheries of sea life and the birds that live off that sea life before they play a role in pollination and seed distribution. From the bottom up, the affects of this one "spill" upon the people and environment and life in the US, this catastrophy is huge and the effects will be enormous. Already delays and underestimation of the problem have allowed delays that are bad news.
We're not hearing much about BP's efforts to close the leaks or cap the well. At a potential 10-15 billion barrels, we're talking about a field that could ultimately yield over a trillion dollars worth of oil. That means BP and it's two partners will look at salvaging the field and perhaps weigh that consideration over the risks to the environment and all the jobs the oil damage will cause.
It's essential that Barack Obama take over operations immediately, directing BP on what to do. There's a possibility that an alternate well can be drilled that would shunt the flow of the oil and control the flow. If that's even possible, who knows how long that will take?
There's another consideration. It's part of that N. Korean conspiracy theory narrative-- the use of a nuclear warhead to close the leak. It's an extreme reaction. We know so little about what effect that will have-- a tsunami or tidal wave? Massive destruction of sea life? Radioactive seawater producing radioactive shrimp and oysters and all the fish that commercial fisherman out of Louisiana catch? Use a nuke or allow the river of oil to flow into and up the Gulf until it is moved all the way to Europe. This is a no-win situation. What if a nuclear explosion sets off other geological activity or worsens the oil release? What if Obama looks at the nuclear option and decides it's a good idea because there are a lot of red-mean Americans who like fireworks who would love to have the US explode a nuclear weapon in their lifetime? |
Surely the important post is the 'Whistleblower' one, by far the most likely.
Tying North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela into the equation will 'muddy the waters', as though they are not 'oily' enough.
Just as the US had a contingency plan to blame Cuba if one of their space shots failed.
And never forget, the US has been stoking up the pressure on Venezuela, bringing the Fourth Fleet, mothballed after the end of WWII, into operation in the Caribbean and other waters where it can threaten Venezuela and other South and Central American countries, and of course Cuba, and the leasing of 7 bases in Colombia, with options to use any other facilities in Colombia.
Venezuela, of course, has mucho oil, and Uncle Sam has a voracious appetite for oil.
And notice, no massive exposure of BP's huge lapses in controls and legal requirements; the NWO sticks together; it comes out via a whistleblower, but is not taken up by the press. Instead, they come up with 'bogeyman' states. The UK is an important part of that NWO, and the 'Brotherhood' blames someone else.
Plus ca change.
By the way, I recommend people do not read the story on European Union Times Online, as I got a serious warning from McAfee site advisor; just search out the story with other links. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, whistleblower good, 'SuchaFool' bad,bad,bad
'That' site is occasionally valuable for the some of the things it lets slip, not for the wall-to-wall contrived FUD and pseudo-religion, IMO.
As for capping the gusher from this disaster, however contrived, I would suggest ramming it full of the organic contents of Dubai, Herzlya, Capitol Hill and the White House. That should at least prevent further GIT
* Government Inspired Terrorism _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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@ outsider: 'By the way, I recommend people do not read the story on European Union Times Online, as I got a serious warning from McAfee site advisor; just search out the story with other links.'
My 'by the way' warning was of computer problems that might ensue if the site was visited, not of the content. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: |
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outsider wrote: | My 'by the way' warning was of computer problems that might ensue if the site was visited, not of the content. |
It's not going to get any better, for sure. Perhaps McAfee and the like is now part of the problem? Turning off javascript can often help.
Another gentle mention of www.ubuntu.com is perhaps in order here? (With the recent versions, popping in an Ubuntu LiveCD is all that's necessary - you can run it from within windows without it touching anything on your computer, to see whether you like it or not)
and www.freenet.org and, er, anything to get out from under windows, imo... _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thermate911 wrote: | outsider wrote: | My 'by the way' warning was of computer problems that might ensue if the site was visited, not of the content. |
It's not going to get any better, for sure. Perhaps McAfee and the like is now part of the problem? Turning off javascript can often help.
Another gentle mention of www.ubuntu.com is perhaps in order here? (With the recent versions, popping in an Ubuntu LiveCD is all that's necessary - you can run it from within windows without it touching anything on your computer, to see whether you like it or not)
and www.freenet.org and, er, anything to get out from under windows, imo... |
I'm getting too many 'odd' computer problems (and I know extremely little about computers) that I will refrain from checking these sites out.
I'll carry on as usual, but thanks for the info. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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