Opinion Poll Manipulation

[scienceplease 2]

Since UK elections are quite difficult to rig - effectively the only way to corrupt it is through register manipulation and the postal votes - the count itself is pretty difficult to mess around because it is paper and hand counted (cf US voting which is wide open to abuse on every level).... Then I was thinking are "Opinion Polls" manipulated?

For example, the wide variation in polls after last night's PM debate is quite amazing. Instantly it was called for Cameron, although the Channel4 poll called it for Brown and BBC Radio 4 this morning had a less scientific poll calling it for Clegg.

I just presume the Right Wing media is pushing their agenda making out Cameron (Camera-On? Cameroon?) did blindly better than previous debates. (Personally, I think they all needed a few powerpoint slides to back up their arguments).

I suspect that it is really easy to manipulate these polls...

[scubadiver]

I agree that the UK election is difficult to rig, but a couple I know suspects a hung parliament is being 'promoted' because most European countries have coalitions etc and we know the liblabcon promotes European integration.

[insidejob]

I think a rigged election is being planned. This vote is too important to let the people decide as far as the PTB are concerned. They don't want a party with an overall majority. It's difficult to present convincing evidence or a mechanism about how this would happen. But there are clues.

There have been court cases about postal ballot fraud in the local elections in Birmingham in 2006.

I was also amazed about the 2007 Scottish Parliamentary vote. Questions were asked:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/scotland.localgovernment

[ian neal]

I can see what you are saying Inside and I don't doubt that what ever the outcome the powers that be will have anticipated it and to the extent that it is within their control influenced the outcome in their desired direction.

However of all the pisspoor options that are presented to us as realistic outcomes of June 6, I see a hung parliament as the least bad. This is based on my probably naive hope that a hung parliament could result in meaningful electoral reform that would help break the stranglehold of the tweedledee and tweedledum, nu labour and tory politics

[paul wright]

The appalling Clegg is the joker in the pack, deliberately introduced to support the one or the other

[scienceplease 2]

[Caz]

Oh yes, poll rigging is certainly going on, and Gallup are great for this.

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=3951

[insidejob]

Has there been voter manipulation? What does the City want?

The first indication of this was last night’s exit poll. It indicated a drop in Lib Dem support and flew in the face of what we had been told about new, 3-party politics. The second indication is the voting debacle, where people could not vote. This is not about this election but rather about future ones. This debacle will be used to argue for more postal voting and electronic votes. They can then manipulate them properly.

Another indication is the Lib Dem vote. Essentially, this undermined any mandate for a centre-left majority, i.e. a possibly long-term coalition with Labour. The City of London does not want this. The Lib Dem failure undermines their mandate and forces them into the arms of the Conservatives. This was previously almost unthinkable. But now there is the possibility of a centre-right majority, which is what the City wants. They don’t want any coalition that includes the nationalists or Northern Irish parties. None of them want cuts.

The City’s ideal outcome is Vince Cable as Chancellor. The people trust him. And we have no party with a majority, because we can’t trust the buggers. Cable’ll say no to short-term, swingeing, public sector cuts. Much of the public will have a sigh of relief but accept that we have to make cuts in the future. Phew!

Then we’ll be faced with a manipulated bond and stock market crisis. Much like the one on Wall Street today. This mini crash is down to JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley, et al. This has already focused people’s minds on sovereign debt and indicates to us that may be we are not out of the recession. It also tells us who’s really in charge. The big crisis, perhaps between June and Novemeber, will scare the bejesus out of us. Vince Cable will then say: “Oh, we’ve got to ditch our policies, we’ve got to make cuts!” And public services will be flogged off to hedge funds, and that’s what the City wants.

If the City has manipulated votes, how have they done that? This is not easy to answer. Perhaps, lifeinthemix has a clue.

[Life]

Hello Inside job

I think the best description of this sham of an election would have to be :

''money talks and it has just spoken.''

How they have achieved this I do not know, but I am watching, I will however offer a link to my thoughts at the end of this post, that is after I vent my sixth a little.

Big play on financial crisis
Big play on political crisis

It only needs a false flag of 911 proportions and we have a trinity....

Are they going to try for the full activation of the Contingency Act-Patriot Act? I do not like it.

Crunch time may well be on its way.

My thoughts :

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=13148

[Life]

If we wish a little peak into what exactly is going on behind the closed doors between those who have the audacity to claim to represent the people, I offer this little gem, which brings a very sinister 'front' cherub; Stanley Fink, not of the batfink family but a very naughty individual all the same :

The British Crown Destroying British Politics By Stealth :

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=10646

And of course this brings slap bang to the fore the one and only ARK, (Absolute Return for Kids), an operation centred in the John Adam Street Complex with more paedophile baggage than they care to have exposed at this time and schillings are their pitt bull, nuff said really, erm not quite, they are getting their paws into our children by big crook, the hook was not required on account of the fact they are Military industrial, and have thus marched straight in.

So what we going to do about it?

[Life]

Anyhow, enough of the nonsense, let us get very serious.....

Tune of the week :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xol8zlQMvdo&feature=related

[Life]

We are at the most dangerous crossroads indeed, and I have yet to hear or read any mention of the real calamity that has just befallen us in Great Britain, yet this being the case does not come close to the real meaning of this coalition and what is to follow.

I offer hint :

Cameron-Clegg : A New Politics

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=13495