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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: 2010 General election Reply with quote

Peter Hitchens on a bit of a rant.
Good time for ranters this - here are some more at 29:00, 40:00 and 43:00
http://www.bilderberg-mirror.org.uk/20100430180001.mp3

We have the power to cast aside the discredited parties and politicians who have so utterly let us down and to make new ones which actually speak for us, and which do not despise us as fruitcakes or bigots.
Five years from now we could throw the liberal elite into the sea, if we tried. But the first stage in that rebellion must be the failure of David Cameron to rescue the wretched anti-British Blair project and wrap it in a blue dress.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Osborne denies Tory plans would spark unrest
By George Par, FT Political Editor
Published: May 4 2010 22:23 | Last updated: May 4 2010 22:23
An incoming Conservative government would have the mandate to carry out deep public spending cuts, according to George Osborne, shadow chancellor, who rejected suggestions that his plans could spark Greek-style social unrest.
Mr Osborne told the Financial Times that he hoped the election would produce an outright Tory Commons majority, paving the way for an emergency Budget in June that would map a course for cutting the UK’s £163bn deficit.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/37af3ae4-57b7-11df-855b-00144feab49a.html

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 2010 General election Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
Peter Hitchens on a bit of a rant.
Good time for ranters this - here are some more at 29:00, 40:00 and 43:00
http://www.bilderberg-mirror.org.uk/20100430180001.mp3


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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Democracy? Police throw voters out of polling stations Reply with quote

What a charade!

Democracy?

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/05/450793.html

The picture speaks for itself. The corporate media, including the BBC, feast upon the carcass of so-called democracy. You do not have a say. You are 'required' to leave this to those in the know, the elite, the 'whisperers'.

Even whilst the struggle in Greece, and other countries, continues, farcically reported in the news to maintain the interests of the status quo and corporate interests, within the UK an archaic and fundamentally undemocratic system (by any meaning of the word) is weighing up how much pain they can inflict upon the population of Britain to protect the corporate intersts of the capitalist and land owning elite.

Yet at the same time what an opportunity! People will see this for the farce this is!
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lord of misrule has been busy


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Hackney South and Shoreditch, London: Labour seat, no result declared. At least 150 voters turned away by police after 10pm. Protests were forming

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1274485/UK-ELECTION-R ESULTS-2010--750-compensation-polling-booth-fiasco.html#ixzz0nIRsYoK5


Electoral Commission
http://www.electoralcommissioner.co.uk/

Electoral Commission swamped with complaints‎
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/9d4dba46-5a38-11df-acdc-00144feab49a.html

The Commissioners
The Commissioners lead our strategy and set our priorities. They are independent of political parties and are accountable directly to Parliament.

Information on each of the Commissioners can be found by following the links below.

Jenny Watson, Chair



Ian Kelsall OBE, Commissioner
John McCormick, Commissioner
Tony Hobman, Commissioner
Max Caller CBE, Commissioner
Henrietta Campbell CB, Commissioner

Registers of interests, gifts and hospitality
Commissioners, Deputy Commissioners, and staff abide by a code of conduct, part of which requires them to declare any interests, and any gifts or hospitality which they have received or offered. A separate register is published for Directors, and Heads of the Commission's office in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The registers are updated periodically, and the one for the Chair, Commissioners and Deputy Commissioners is available here:

2009 Register of Interests (PDF)
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/7984 4/2009-REGISTER-OF-INTERESTS-Chair,-Commissioners-and-Deputy-Commissio ners.pdf
2009 Register of gifts and hospitality (PDF) (updated quarterly)
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What got me was that the voting implements were pencils.

I was expecting to hear reports of record countrywide shipments of erasers at around 10pm.

It always struck me as slightly repulsive the clone-like quality between Cameron and Clegg. If it wasnt't for the live debate and seeing them in the same room together I coulda sworn they were the same person.

Now it seems they really are going to be like two peas in the same pod.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlock Democracy seems to have made quite a splash today...

http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/

I hope after all this the voting system doesn't becomes more susceptible to fraud (e.g. introduction of eVoting etc)


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of stories of people getting preferential treatment in polling queues and large numbers being turned away.

The Times and Daily Mail have carried stories about people being turned away at the Polls before closing time and I have come across posts on the web where people have stated they were given queue jump preferential treatment after their polling card was checked and they were told they lived in the right street.

Anyone else?
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came across the following, while I was surfing Flickr, which mentions preferential treatment -

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2 Fboncey%2F4585092590%2F&h=a7464
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police throwing out voters and people getting locked out and not voting. Definitely not ideal but wouldnt have changed the result. In my ward i didnt even get a choice just the same old Lib Lab Con.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick Clegg is about to sell his party membership down the river.
Clegg and Cameron did this deal at least a year ago
It was why 'drinker' Charles Kennedy was bullied out of the Lib Dem leadership to make way for the City's PR boy
All this 'negotiation' is theatre & pantomime and the media just reinforces the lie

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny how a month ago it looked like a hung parliament, then again about a week ago!

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon Brown has done the honourable thing
Now Cameron is trying to bully Clegg.
This will play into the hands of Mandelson (ugh!), Labour etc.
Lib Dem MPs know they will lose votes next time if they don't get the best deal.
What bullies Andy Colston and David Cameron are.
Just 'cos his little deal he and the city crooks stitched up with Clegg b4 the election ain't working out. Same old establishment rubbish.
Has anyone noticed how Cameron is looking increasingly evil as his job as PR man for the City morphs into his role as their dictator?

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if Brown offered for Clegg to be PM of a Labour cabinet?
Now that might work!

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if 20+ Lib dems defected to the Tories would that count as aTory majority?
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that Brown resigned today before the Lib/Con deal is done.
Pressure on Brown from Millibands, Mandelson?
Piles pressure on Lib Dem MPs to agree to a bad deal struck by City boy Clegg. The impressionable lightweight has not even got his own department.
The new politics?

Another point is that none of the Cameron biopics I've seen have mentioned his career as private TV company Public Relations front man. Wonder why?
Is the 9/11 perps front man now in the driving seat?

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenny Watson, Jennifer Watson. Common Purpose?


Computer Weekly wrote:
UK Electoral Commission admits access to voter database is not monitored
Warwick Ashford - Computer Weekly - Tuesday 18 May 2010
The UK Electoral Commission does not have any system to monitor and log access of and changes to the voter database, a Freedom of Information (FOI) request has revealed.
According to the commission, local authorities manage their own electoral registers and send monthly updates to the commission.
This means here is no central point of control, said Guy Churchward, chief executive at log management company LogLogic, which submitted the FOI request.
"How the updates are sent and whether any of the local authorities have monitoring systems in place is not clear," he said.
The commission said the electoral register information is accessed only on a need-to-know basis.
These access permissions are controlled by the ICT team according to an agreed policy and procedure that requires obtaining appropriate authority......
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2010/05/18/241270/UK-Electoral- Commission-admits-access-to-voter-database-is-not.htm




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General Election 2010: Electoral Commission accused over 'third world' ballot
Jenny Watson, the chairman of the Electoral Commission, was accused this morning of presiding over a “third world” ballot amid farcical scenes at polling stations.
Miss Watson conceded that the results in many constituencies are likely to be challenged because of shambolic organisation which left thousands of people unable to vote.
But she admitted that the Commission had no power to punish returning officers responsible for the chaos, and attempted to dodge any personal blame by suggesting the “Victorian” electoral system was at fault.
Miss Watson, who worked at a series of quangos before joining the independent electoral regulator in 2009, said: “Electoral law is very clear. The doors must be shut at 10 o’clock and anyone issued with a ballot paper before 10 o’clock must be allowed to vote. No-one can be issued with a ballot paper after 10 o’clock even if they are inside the polling station.
“The returning officers should have done what the law says. If they haven’t done that they may well be subject to election petitions.
“Clearly we are going to look at this, clearly parliament will look at this and it may well be that the law will have to change.”
Although individual returning officers in each council are legally responsible for the operation of the election, the Commission is supposed to ensure the smooth running of the system.
The watchdog has a staff of around 150 people and a budget of around £25million.
Miss Watson, who was formerly chairman of the Equal Opportunities Commission and earns £100,000 in her current role, promised a “thorough review” of what had happened in constituencies.
But it appeared that no clear advice had been given to polling stations about what to do if there were still queues of voters at 10pm.
Asked why there had been so many problems, Miss Watson blamed everyone but herself............
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7689014/General-Election -2010-Electoral-Commission-accused-over-third-world-ballot.html

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