so this is war...

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13140.htm

stav

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Ta for the link stav.

Another link:
http://www.peacefilms.org/

On various forums where this has been posted people are convinced hes lying/never been in the army etc.
Cognitive Dissonance is a curious phenomenon.

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Just got another interview with a different veteran saying very similar things.
From concen.
I dont know what attachment restrictions there are here (i know there are some). Hope this is ok, its v small.

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woah it autoplays. mental.

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Just found this on doa:

http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCriminalCase.cfm?ca use_num=06-1-01994-8

Ranger 1:

quote:1. Claim: Attended Ranger School. Truth: Would be awarded the
Ranger tab, worn on the left shoulder above the 3/75 scroll.
2. Claim: Attended Special Forces Qualification Course. Truth:
Would be awarded the Special Forces tab, worn on the left shoulder above
the 3/75 scroll. SFQC from start to end takes about 1.5 years to
complete, without any breaks. In a 11-03-2003 interview with the Eastern
Arizona Courier he claims to have been home 2.5 months, making it
08-20-2003. He claims to have spent 14 months in Iraq and Afghanistan,
making it 06-20-2002 when he departed for overseas. Special Forces is a
total of 18 months making it 01-20-2001. Infantry combat training (boot
camp) is 13 weeks, Jump school is 3 weeks, and Ranger school is 8 weeks
(total of 24 weeks) making it 07-20-2000. A total of 3 years and 4
months of training and combat. If he was 19 years old in the interview
then he was 15 or 16 when he enlisted. Minimum age of enlistment is 17
with parental consent. He also claims to have joined when he was 17, so
the training and combat timelines do not work out. And this is if the
system worked perfectly and the day he finished one school he started
another, which is impossible because these schools are not collocated.
3. Claim: Fought with 3/75 in Afghanistan and Iraq. Truth: Would be
wearing former wartime service 3/75 scroll on right shoulder.
4. Claim: Wearing Special Forces shoulder sleeve insignia on right
shoulder, with Special Forces Qualification tab. Truth: No claims of
being assigned to any Special Forces Group. The Special Forces
Qualification tab is not worn on the right shoulder as a part of the
former wartime service insignia.
5. Claim: United States Army Soldier. Truth: Rolls his uniform
sleeves inside out not authorized in the Army.
6. Claim: Combat Infantryman Badge 2nd award. Truth: CIBs are
issued during qualifying eras. The two most recent eras are Persian Gulf
War, 17 January 1991 to 11 April 1991 and Somalia, 5 June 1992 to 31
March 1994. He would have been 9 years old to qualify for a second award.
7. Claim: Combat Action Badge 2nd award. Truth: IF he was an
infantryman, he would not qualify for 1 CAB, he would have had to change
his MOS prior to the incident awarding the CAB. There has not been a
second qualifying era to award a second CAB, so it is impossible for him
to have a second award.
8. Claim: Ranger. Truth: His beret is the correct color, but he is
wearing the flash for the 1st Special Forces Group (wrong) and no
distinctive unit insignia (wrong), which is required.
9. Claim: Operation Iraqi Freedom/ Battle of Fallujah. Truth: The
Battle of Fallujah (Operation Phantom Fury) began on 11-08-2004. As we
read about our intrepid “Soldier” was at home protesting coffee prices.
Operation Vigilant Justice began on 04-05-2004 and did not include
elements of 3/75.

Ranger 2:

quote:Dear Sirs,

Your interview with Jesse Macbeth was forwarded to me. After
reading it I felt you might want to know that you have been had.

Here is why:

1. He is described as a "Special Forces Ranger". There is no such
thing. You are either SF, in which case you have an MOS of 18B, C, D, or
E, or you are a Ranger, in which case you are most likely 11B or 11C,
although there are a host of other MOSs to be found within the 75th Inf.
I was assigned to the 1st Bn, 75th Inf at Hunter Army Airfield form
1986-1988. We had a few prior SF tabbed guys there, but they were
Rangers, because they were assigned to a Ranger Bn.

2. Fallujah was and still is USMC territory. The Rangers didn't do
much there to my knowledge.

3. Nobody gets picked to go to Ranger school from basic training.
You do basic, then AIT, then jump school, then Ranger Indoctrination
Program, then you go to battalion or regiment as your assignement. After
enduring months of BS, you may get chosen to go to Ranger school.

4. The bolded portion is absolute fantasy. I was in Iraq in 2004 as
a security contractor. Our ROE was so restrictive that I couldn't fire
unless fired upon. This was a real sphincter tightener when 10 guys with
AKs would come into my AO.

"We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We
would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave,
then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we
didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've
been innocent people. "

5. A Bronze Star is nigh impossible to get. I looked up his name on
the list of awardees. He is not listed as a recipient. I never met a
troop who couldn't remember all his awards. Nobody has very many.

"What medals did you get in Iraq?
I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don't remember.
I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star. "

6. Stabbed? By who? Nobody ever gets that close. If you are in a
crowd, every guy in your team is watching every other guy's back.
Stabbed many times? That would be a ticket out after number 2. A two
time recipient of the Purple Heart is automatically allowed a non-combat
job.

What injuries did you get?
I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in
the back.

7. Ask this guy to produce his DD214. I bet he doesn't have one.

Feel free to contact me-902-103-xxxx

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This site has now withdrawn the interview:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13140.htm

[Ed Note: This item has been removed - Some readers suggests Jessie Macbeth may not be as he portrays himself. Many have cast doubt as to the validity of his experiences. See Reader Comments (191) Further investigation as to the validity of his history and allegations are ongoing and will be added to this page as they become available.]

Iraq Veterans Against the War recently learned of a video interview with Jesse MacBeth that directs viewers to IVAW’s website and phone number. IVAW was not made aware of the creation of this video program and our input on it was never sought by its producers. Jesse MacBeth is not a spokesperson for IVAW and any claims made by MacBeth about his service have not been verified. We are currently investigating these claims and will have a full statement pending its resolution."

Even if this guy is lying, , and it looks likely he is, a lot of this is going on. The iraq war is genocide from many angles.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7994353294099338929&q=beyond+ treason