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 Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: Wed14thJuly - LONDON - Debunking the War on Terror |
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Friends Meeting House, 6.30 - 9.30
http://religionandmorality.net/DWT/DebunkingWT.htm
Dr. James Fetzer,
who is Distinguished McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, is the founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a non-partisan association of faculty, students, and scholars, in fields as diverse as history, science, military affairs, psychology, and philosophy, dedicated to exposing falsehoods and to revealing truths behind 9/11. Scholars was the first 9/11 research society to make an impact on public discussion about the events of 9/11. The Scholars' first book, The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007) and DVD, The Science and Politics of 9/11 (2007), provide evidence of a conspiracy and cover-up, which was designed and executed to manipulate the American people into supporting illegal wars and unConstitutional measures out of the fear those atrocities induced.
Dr. Kevin Barrett,
a Ph.D. Arabist-Islamologist, is the co-founder and acting coordinator of Muslims for 9/11 Truth. He is one of America's best-known critics of the War on Terror. The co-founders of Muslims for 9/11 Truth, Dr. Kevin Barrett and Dr. A.K. Dewdney are currently working in a project to urgently warn the world's Muslims that it is time to stand up for 9/11 truth and expose the "war on terror" as a hoax. They are distributing thousands of copies of their letter "Warning of a Global War on Islam" to mosques and Islamic organisations worldwide. Dr. Barrett is the author of Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie (2007) and of Questioning the War on Terror (2009) as well as co-editor of 9/11 & American Empire Vol. II: Christians, Jews, and Muslims Speak Out (2007; Arabic version 2009).
Gilad Atzmon
an outspoken opponent of Zionism and highly critical voice of Jewish identity politics. An Israeli-born British jazz saxophonist, his album "Exile" was the BBC's "jazz album of the year" in 2003. Gilad Atzmon's writings have been published in CounterPunch, Al Jazeera, Uruknet, and Middle East Online. His albums, of which he has recorded nine to date, often explore political themes and the music of the Middle East. He has published at least two comic novels, which have been translated into 24 languages. Gilad will offer his reflections on the nature of state terrorism and the significance of the analysis of the events of 9/11 presented at the symposium with consideration for their moral, political, and religious dimensions.
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I was shocked to see this 14th July talk at Friends House was not on our calendar. Position now rectified!
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| TonyGosling wrote: | Jim Fetzer is a 'no planer' but other speakers look more interesting.
Three Mossad agents were spotted in the audience and asked if they wanted to contribute!
Wonder if anybody videoed the event?
full details on AlJazeera |
I attended the meeting.
Three Mossad agents were 'allegedly' seen in the audience, not verified.
Very much speculation, I'm afraid.
For there to have been spies, Mossad or otherwise, would hardly have been surprising; they would want info on what was going on. Very remiss of them if they were not represented.
Fetzer a 'no-planer'? Not true; Fetzer's position, with which I entirely agree, is that the video evidence we all saw was fake; he states 'some kind of flying objects' hit the buildings; I entirely agree.
Where they piloted by 19 'Arab Terrorists?'; no, he doesn't think so; nor do I. Even Brit MSM have admitted a number of the so-called highjackers are alive and well and living in their countries of origin (a bit difficult if you were on a plane that crashed at high speed into a Tower buillding).
Fetzer's fault is his continueing belief in the 'Dr'. Judy Wood 'Beam Theory'; completely spoilt his initially good presentation.
Kevin Barrett's presentation was very dissapointing; he is a much better radio show host than speaker, I'm afraid. He treated us to a dry, Neo-Con v Muslim 'lesson', with what one stands for, v what the other stands for, replete with slide show.
As for Gilad Atzman, he was amusing in parts, but screwed his presentation up with the throaway line, something like, 'the so-called Holocaust'. Totally superfluous, unessesary, and obviously what any 'spies' would have lapped up, though he did get claps from quite a number of the very sparse audience, as well as the silent plaudits of the 'spies'.
The star of the talk was Kevin O'Keefe, who unfortunately was Master of Ceremonies, and so said very little; pity, he would have been a much better speaker than any of the official speakers.
Sorry to say, a very disapointing evening.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: Fetzer et al |
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It is with regret that I have to concur with the previous post. I decided to attend this event more out of curiosity than interest and was not exactly surprised to recognize at least half of the 100 or so people spread around the 1000+ capacity hall. It would have been far better to have held the event in a smaller venue and have it packed out or to publicize the event more aggressively.
This event would have been highly pertinent 5-6 years ago but in 2010 it had little more relevance than a evening discussing Pearl Harbor or JFK. That is not to deny or denigrate the importance of 9/11 but without being put into any contemporary context it is little more than a historical review. Not only was nothing new presented, the casual visitor could be forgiven for leaving the event perceiving the 9/11 Truth Movement as 'anti-semitic'! The references to Zionism, without being put into any context, were ill-advised, unscholarly and frankly unnecessary within the framework of the evening.
Fetzer's presentation stood out in terms of content and delivery. The reference to Judy Wood was little more than a throwaway and would only have been picked up by those well-versed in that particular controversy.
I endorse Outsider's comments regarding both Barratt & Atzman. Barratt was a disappointment as a presenter but then I do have some difficulty warming to any speaker who stands up and reads directly from their PowerPoint.
Atzman was frankly, a bit of a joke; unprepared, unstructured and unfunny. Based upon this performance he should stick to music and writing.
In summary, this was a poorly constructed, poorly advertised, poorly attended event which served as little more than a reunion for what remains of the UK 9/11 Truth Movement. The alleged Mossad agents in the audience can rest assured that they have nothing to worry about from this quarter.
Meanwhile, Kevin O'Keefe definitely has a future if has any desire to become more prominent as an activist/presenter.
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| I spotted the MI agent...David Shayler! It was poorly attended, was it boycotted by the anti-no planes/DEW chapter of UK 911 truth? Dr Fetzer informed educated and entertained with a good presentation, I always thought the dancing Israelis was an urban myth. I also thought Scholars' had dissociated itself from Dr Wood and her 911 observations, I wanted to ask where they had disposed of all that WTC decontaminant contaminated soil, but I didn't have the courage(even in front of such a small crowd).Can't Belinda arrange a written question facility next time perhaps?The MC was on that boat with relief supplies for Gaza boarded and pirated by Israeli forces and was keen to talk to the Mossad agent alleged to be present. |
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| SHERITON HOTEL wrote: | | I spotted the MI agent...David Shayler! It was poorly attended, was it boycotted by the anti-no planes/DEW chapter of UK 911 truth? Dr Fetzer informed educated and entertained with a good presentation, I always thought the dancing Israelis was an urban myth. I also thought Scholars' had dissociated itself from Dr Wood and her 911 observations, I wanted to ask where they had disposed of all that WTC decontaminant contaminated soil, but I didn't have the courage(even in front of such a small crowd).Can't Belinda arrange a written question facility next time perhaps?The MC was on that boat with relief supplies for Gaza boarded and pirated by Israeli forces and was keen to talk to the Mossad agent alleged to be present. |
Three of the 'dancing Israelis' appeared on Israeli TV, a clip widely dispersed aroung the web; here is one version:
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=8845
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Just quickly: (I’m not saying that they have no, morality)
religionandmorality.net?
Dr. James Fetzer. "The Evolution of Intelligence: Are Humans the Only Animals with Minds?" (You can read much of it on Amazon)
And his website, no mention of God/Allah or Christ that I can find yet.
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Dr. Kevin Barrett. (Has a link to zeitgeist the movie)
No mention of God/Allah or Christ that I can find yet.
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Gilad Atzmon.
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-lies-about-hamas-rockets.html (Videos)
Oh, he mentions God; but the videos don’t make the link (or comments on youtube) that it sounds like a "Far East" call centre? (Not that I’m excusing Christian Zionism) He could have explained to the call centre girls more rationally. |
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