MI5 fight Tory budget cuts by issuing threats and warnings

[TonyGosling]

MI5 - next UK false flag to be blamed on Somalis
MI5 chief warns of terror threat from Britons trained in Somalia
Jonathan Evans says 'significant number' of UK residents are now training in al-Shabaab camps
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/sep/17/mi5-chief-somalia-terro -threat

[David Rose]

Crispin Blacks reads this speech as an attempt to prevent budget cuts at 5 by scaring the government about the fact that they can carry out a deniable false flag on the UK mainland anytime?

ex-Bristol University Jonathan Evans is playing a very dangerous game.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/68842,news-comment,news-politics,mi5-ter ror-warning-comes-with-budget-cuts-in-mind-al-shabaab-shabab-somalia

MI5 terror warning comes with budget cuts in mind
Somali militia fighters in Mogadishu
Intelligence analyst Crispin Black reads between the lines of the MI5 chief’s warning of a Somali-inspired atrocity
By Crispin Black
LAST UPDATED 2:02 PM, SEPTEMBER 17, 2010


The head of MI5 warned yesterday that it was "only a matter of time" before a terrorist atrocity is committed in Britain by UK citizens who have travelled to Somalia for training in camps run by al-Shabaab, the Islamist extremist group affiliated with al-Qaeda.

In a speech to the Worshipful Company of Security Professionals in the City, Jonathan Evans also raised the threat of increased attacks by dissident republicans in Northern Ireland and made the point that the 2012 London Olympics now posed a major security challenge.

And he warned that it was wrong-headed to share the American view that terrorism was 100 per cent preventable. This, he said, was "nonsensical".

Speeches by serving director-generals of MI5 are as rare as rocking horse manure and, like a difficult schoolboy Latin text, are best understood with the aid of an introduction and a few notes...

Introduction. Never take anything at face value when dealing with intelligence types. There are always multiple hidden agendas swirling beneath. It's partly because they just cannot help it.

The 'psychological manipulation' which lies at the heart of intelligence work tends to cross-infect the rest of your activities. A lifetime sniffing out weaknesses and vulnerabilities in individuals so that they can be persuaded/seduced/blackmailed into providing intelligence makes you think you can do it to anyone.

A nod and a wink here, a leak and a warning there and the public - and all the new ministers, even the Lib Dems - will soon be on side.

Note One. Evans was right to highlight the threat from Somalia.
It is a wild, mountainous and lawless land, dominated by extremists with a penchant for piracy, smuggling and extreme ideological violence - ­ a sort of South Armagh on the Indian Ocean.

A dramatic increase in Somali immigrants to the UK (the number has doubled - some say quadrupled - since the 40,000-plus recorded in the 2001 Census) has made it much more difficult to keep track of any malcontents.

Note Two. The speech is a public statement to the Home Secretary, Theresa May, about how important a director-general is should anything nasty happen.

Evans's description of the American idea that "terrorism was 100 per cent preventable" as "nonsensical" gives her and the government a kind of cover that only he can provide.

Note Three. Like all the other department heads, Evans is also trying to protect his budget. The Single Intelligence Account which pays for all three intelligence services has not been ring-fenced.

George Osborne is said to be keen on a 10 per cent cut. Spooks, like everyone else in the public sector, got used to the Labour years of plenty.

Note Four. New prime ministers receive intelligence briefings in their first 24 hours in Downing Street. David Cameron is rumoured to have been less impressed with MI5 than MI6.

This is not unusual. MI6 has more glamour and, because of the Foreign Office lifestyle - ­ school fees paid, exotic foreign postings, etc - it tends to attract a better class of spook.

Given that it was Evans himself who delivered much of his service's briefing he is probably feeling a little unloved. Nothing better than a blood-curdling speech to remind the politicians what good chaps he and his service really are.

Filed under: Somalia, Al Shabab, MI5, Terrorism

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[TonyGosling]

Is this simply a direct threat by MI5 to the Treasury not to cut the Security Service budget?

[TonyGosling]

for those that dare to doubt

[TonyGosling]

First minister to raise security threat with Chancellor
BBC - Threat levels in Northern Ireland remain 'severe'
The first minister is to discuss the increased threat level posed by dissident republicans to Britain with the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Peter Robinson is due to meet George Osborne with Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness next week to discuss the budget cuts.
Mr Robinson said it "was crucial that enough resources are made available to combat the threat".
Mr McGuinness said the meeting was arranged at the beginning of the month.
"The notion that this meeting will focus on the speculative remarks of the British Home Secretary yesterday, at a time when, like most other government agencies, MI5 will be interested in securing their own budget, is incorrect," Mr McGuinness said.............
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11411090

[TonyGosling]

This drivel is reaching Stalinist proportions - such a shame they can release no details - have they arrested anyone - tried anyone - assassinated anyone??

Plot to attack European cities foiled - report

LONDON | Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:53pm BST

(Reuters) - Intelligence agencies have disrupted plans for multiple attacks on European cities by a group thought to be linked to al Qaeda, Sky News said on Tuesday.

Militants based in Pakistan were planning simultaneous strikes in London, as well as cities in France and Germany, the channel's foreign affairs editor Tim Marshall said.

He said an increase in drone attacks in Pakistan in the past few weeks was linked to attempts by Western powers to disrupt the plot, which was at an "advanced but not imminent stage."

Citing unidentified intelligence sources, Sky said the planned attacks would have been similar to the commando-style raids carried out in Mumbai by Pakistan-based gunmen in 2008.

The heavily armed militants launched an assault on various targets in Mumbai, including the Taj Mahal hotel and the city's main train station.

(Reporting by Karolina Tagaris; editing by Andrew Dobbie)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE68R5ZX20100928

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http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/mumbai-style-terror-plo t-against-uk-uncovered/

Mumbai-style terror plot’ against UK uncovered

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/mumbaistyle-terror-plot-aga inst-uk-uncovered-2092748.html


excerpt from: 'Mumbai-style terror plot' against UK uncovered

by Matt Dickinson, Independent, 29 September 2010

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http://www.ihrc.org.uk/activities/press-releases/9471-press-release-uk –ihrc-chairman-baseless-terror-claims-further-demonise-a-community-u nder-siegeq


IHRC Chairman: Baseless terror claims “further demonise a community under siege”

Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) press release, 29 September 2010


Speaking after recent reports that security services had foiled plans to launch “Mumbai-style” terror attacks in UK cities, Massoud Shadjareh, the Chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), has called on the media to treat such claims with scepticism.

He called the claims “politically motivated” and warned that they served to “further demonise” a Muslim community that is already suffering hate crimes and feeling marginalised and under siege.

Shadjareh said:

“The latest claims of ‘Mumbai-style’ attacks having been foiled by US drone strikes in Pakistan need to be treated with a great deal of scepticism. The recent front page stories of an Islamic plot to assassinate the Pope in London, which turned out to be completely baseless, show how easily stories can be created out of nothing. We also have a long series of incidents in which stories apparently originating with the police or security services have turned out to be completely false or grossly exaggerated, from the supposed plot to blow up Old Trafford to the ‘Ricin’ chemical attack plot.

“It is widely recognised that people and organizations of all kinds often have ulterior and self-interested motives for placing and exaggerating certain stories. Sadly, the police, politicians and security services are no exception. The problem with stories like the ones this morning is that there is no-one offering sceptical, balancing counter-arguments, with the result that any claims, however outlandish, are treated as facts.

“But the people who make such claims, and the media sources who uncritically parrot them, have a responsibility for their consequences. We now have a community of nearly 2 million Muslims, including some of the most deprived and needy people in Britain, who feel marginalised and demonised; who are regularly discriminated against and treated with suspicion and contempt because of stories like this.

“The Islamophobia which is being fed by stories such as this is reflected as much in the statements of some MPs, and the columns of some newspapers, as in the thuggery of groups like the English Defence League. The increasing number of hate-crimes against Muslims is a result of this criminalization of the community as a whole.

“Muslims are now suffering a level of persecution comparable to that once suffered by Jews in Europe. We all look back to those days with abhorrence and disbelief at the levels of hatefulness that apparently reasonable people were capable of.

“It would be good if people could recognise the reality of the situation Muslims now face, and act to prevent it getting worse, instead of looking back in regret in a few decades time, when the lives of tens of thousands of people will already have been ruined.”


* For more information please contact the Press Office on (+44) 20 8904 4222 or (+44) 7958 522196, email: // info@ihrc.org


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Also posted on another thread from ABC I think
Attack even has OBLs blessing and possible links to Hamburg cell. Ah how nice. Beginning to wonder about our Myth writers and where they were

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3159006/PM-and-cops-Mumbai-t error-dummy-run.html


excerpts from: PM and cops’ Mumbai terror dummy-run

by Simon Hughes and John Kay, The Sun, 30 September 2010

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http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/mumbai-style-terror-plo t-against-uk-uncovered/

[‘Mumbai-style terror plot’ against UK uncovered post updated on 3 October 2010]



Foreign Office warns of high terror threat in France and Germany

Daily Telegraph, 3 October 2010

Britain followed the US in upgrading its travel advice for Europe today following a series of terror alerts.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8039839/For eign-Office-warns-of-high-terror-threat-in-France-and-Germany.html



US issues warning against travel in Europe

Daily Telegraph, 3 October 2010

America’s State Department has issued an alert to warn American tourists of the potential for attacks by al-Qaeda and other groups in Europe.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8039736/US- issues-warning-against-travel-in-Europe.html



SAS officers warn that Britain is unprepared for a Mumbai-style attack

by Sean Rayment, Sunday Telegraph, 3 October 2010

Two former senior commanders of the SAS have warned that Britain’s security forces would be unable to cope with a Mumbai-style terrorist attack in central London.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8038942/SAS -officers-warn-that-Britain-is-unprepared-for-a-Mumbai-style-attack.ht ml



GCHQ found British terror plotters

by David Leppard, Sunday Times, 3 October 2010

The government eavesdropping centre GCHQ identified some of the terrorists planning a Mumbai-style attack on London by intercepting telephone calls made from jihadi training camps in Pakistan and matching their voices against a secret database.



Britons training in Pakistan for UK terror attacks

by Rob Crilly, Duncan Gardham and Ben Farmer, Daily Telegraph, 29 September 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8033204/Bri tons-training-in-Pakistan-for-UK-terror-attacks.html


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