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Minot base crew commander found dead
http://airforcetimes.com/news/2009/02/ap_missilecrewcommander_020109/
The Associated Press
Posted : Tuesday Feb 3, 2009 7:20:30 EST
MINOT, N.D. — The body of a missile combat crew commander from the Minot Air Force Base was found by police, and the cause of his death is under investigation, the Air Force says.
A statement issued by the base Sunday said the body of Capt. Jonathan Bayless, 28, was found Friday night. Police did not give details but said it was in an area north of the city soccer complex, and they are awaiting autopsy results.
Col. Christopher Ayres, the base’s 91st Missile Wing commander, said Bayless was a training chief with the 91st Operations Support Squadron. He had been at the Minot Air Force Base since March 2005.
Bayless went on active duty in May 2003, the statement said. Base officials did not list his hometown but said he had been assigned earlier to Vandenberg Air Force Base for missile combat crew member training.
“The 91st Missile Wing has lost not only a valuable member of our team, but a member of our family, and he will be missed.” Ayres said in the statement.
The Air Force said casualty assistance officers and unit members are helping Bayless’ family and a memorial service is being planned.
Also as a recap to past odd goings on!!
http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html
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http://www.minotdailynews.com/page/content.detail/id/523932.html
Autopsy of base officer shows nothing unusual
| Quote: | An autopsy of a Minot Air Force Base missile officer whose body was found Friday night in Minot did not reveal anything unusual, according to Minot Police.
The body of Capt. Jonathan Bayless, 28, was found Friday night in an area north of the Minot city soccer complex. Police received the call about 5:30 p.m. The soccer complex is in northwest Minot. Bayless lived in the area.
Capt. Al Hanson of the Minot Police Department said the autopsy was completed Monday morning and they are awaiting the toxicology report.
"We don't believe there's anything unusual at this point and are awaiting the toxicology report," Hanson said. |
Nothing unusual. Except death, that is!
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Interesting dialogue
http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=8960
| Quote: | 'Opposing' view:
The following email was sent to CLG on 19 September, anonymously.
Hello there,
I’m a Staff Sergeant in the US Air Force. I do network security, so, that’s why I’m emailing anonymously, even though I really don’t feel it’s necessary. I’m just paranoid like that, which is why I’m pretty good at my job.  Also, parts of what I’m putting in here are probably classified, which is the primary reason I’m sending this anonymously.
Anyway, I see a lot of people posting on Reddit about government conspiracies about nukes and things like this. It’s frustrating for me because it’s really very silly. Please, let me explain some background, to help you all understand what’s going on in the background for the Air Force:
Minot AFB is a dead-end base. It’s the abyss of the Air Force, the saying goes “Why not Minot?” They have major retainability problems there – people volunteer to go to Iraq, Korea, anywhere just to get out of there. Beside its location (middle-of-nowhere North Dakota), the base has very little real mission and spins its wheels forever in drills that all result in the end of the world since it’s a nuke base designed to fight the Cold War. But, there is no Cold War for them to fight (at least not one that Minot’s golden piece of real estate would be useful in fighting), so its people probably feel pretty worthless and tired of fighting the now non-existent Soviet Union. The base has already been re-aligned (more on that in a moment) and it’s probably going to be BRACed into a regional airport in a few decades. Ellison AFB in South Dakota has already had its closure decided.
One of the biggest problems with killing off Minot is its core mission – all of the nukes it has. Its weapons capability is moving to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana as the AF further consolidates after the Cold War and infrastructure budget cuts because of Iraq et al. Moving weapons capability to Barksdale, in real world terms, means moving the actual missiles that would deliver the nuclear warhead to Barksdale. No big deal, conventional weapons move all the time. Nuclear warheads, however, when transported for these reasons, are moved by the Department of Energy – a very time consuming, expensive, and burdensome process that someone else will have to figure out much later once they finally decide to close the base.
So, the Air Force’s solution is to move the missiles, and leave the warheads behind, to be dealt with one day when all of us are retired and don't have to worry about it. That’s what SHOULD have happened. So the mission itself was pretty normal otherwise. (It may actually be intentional to leave things this way, to prevent Congressional involvement, as whatever Senator is from ND is probably desperate to keep Minot around as long as possible; leaving the nukes, but operationally stripping the base serves both sides purposes).
The mistake, and the reason everyone now knows about this, is that the warheads weren’t removed from the missiles being moved to Barksdale. I bet the guys on the ground in Barksdale were sure ass**tsurprised when they cracked the payload open and saw a warhead.
I know as much as I do because I work with a cross-trainee whose last base was Barksdale as a munitions specialist. He was involved in this process there; along with the various other missions Barksdale has (it’s a pretty critical base in the AF). Anyway, you would think there would be a pretty clear checklist for all of this, but apparently no one even bothered. Doing what they do day-to-day, is pretty standard operating procedure. People get lazy when they do the same thing day after day, and there’s no less than a half dozen teams who would be transferring these weapons around from storage until they’re loaded. The idea of someone dropping the ball in the AF is not exactly unusual (quite common, actually, heh), especially when 4:30 rolls around and everyone wants to go home. If the next step is to hand it off to the guys who remove the warhead, and it’s 1630 on a Friday, hell, let’s just leave it until Monday, since the mission doesn’t fly until Tuesday anyway. Monday rolls around, someone else takes over, and doesn’t know the job wasn’t finished on Friday. There SHOULD be some paper trail for that kind of thing, but then, like I said, people are lazy. Oh, and Minot usually fails its nuclear operational readiness inspections. Sorry to kill your confidence in the military.
I’ve seen too much crazy stuff to believe in some massive conspiracy, there’s too many people involved. You’d have to kill like 50 people to “cover up” moving nukes to Barksdale. Plus, what would it achieve? There’s already more than enough nukes at Barksdale to blow the world up 3x over. Who needs 6 more? Seriously? Plus, more accidents occur with conventional than nukes, since nukes are computerized and designed to be super-duper safe. Conventional weapons are built by the lowest bidder. [Yikes!] I’d be more worried about a fully-loaded F16 flying around NYC after 9/11 sucking up a bird than a B52 with nukes flying around without anyone knowing it was loaded with nukes. The pilots couldn’t "secretly" be in on it and launch them, the interface wouldn’t be installed, the COMSEC material wouldn’t be available, etc. You’d have to kill half the base to hide the paper trail necessary to give the pilots the ability to launch.
Several people dying from Minot is bad, of course, but then, crazy stuff happens. Motorcycle accidents, mind you, are the #1 non-war cause of dead in the Air Force. The Captain who died wasn’t a pilot (he was Combat Weather, as evidenced by his pewter beret in the photo linked from your site). Captains are a dime a dozen, just like the Security Forces troop who died. Yes, a part of the Security Forces Squadron mission there would be do defend the nukes, but he’s not at all involved in any of the process. He stands outside the door and checks IDs. Seriously, that’s it. I have 5 cops (as they're generally called in the Air Force) I deal with every day where I work because I do computer stuff, and they have zero clue what’s happening behind the door. They spend most of the day on the phone chit chatting with friends at other security posts about the latest dorm gossip about who slept with whom.
So, to conclude, just chill out a bit about the conspiracy, it’s kinda silly. Plus, again, what would be the point? It’s not a big deal to authorize a nuke mission. After 9/11 the entire Barksdale arsenal was loaded and on the flightline ready to fly. I wouldn’t sweat 6 who someone forgot to unload.
Feel free to republish, maybe it'll educate a few people.
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The following email was sent to CLG on 19 September.
Subject: comments closed?
http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html
I’m NOT anonymous, and I take issue with the anonymous "ssgt" statements.
I’m a cold war vet from the US Navy, one who worked as part of an operation designed to exhaust and bankrupt the Soviet military, by constantly testing their limitations. This SSgt is a defacto shill for a propaganda machine.
1st.
Bullsheep. Plain and simple. IF this "SSgt" was actually just debunking a load of Steaming Holstein, none of his command would have much issue with any of his statements, especially publicly available facts such as retention rates and base activities that are noted on google.com, mil.gov, wikipedia, and many other websites worldwide. There is no need to be anonymous when you’re not releasing classified data, is there? Saying "there is not a plot" is not contrary to secure data, even if there is not a plot.
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6 people dying within days of a world-record nuclear screw-up is decidedly newsworthy, and suspicious, in itself. The rate of fatalities in the military isn’t that high even in war zones.
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The "Decider" has already stated that he believes the USA has the right to bomb Iran, and that he will not certify that he’d refuse to use nukes. "No option is off the table" as he is fond of saying. I think that’s pretty damn clear, being as it is coming from the Commander In Chief.
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The military reporting of these incidents is itself contrary to military secrecy, reason, and law. I suspect an altogether different agenda. I believe that this high-level press coverage of a screw up, carrying nukes on B52s, is designed to use the US Media [gasp, they’ve never done that before!] to pressure Iran to meet US demands.
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The US military would never release to the public any real classified data [data recovery], especially including data about moved or missing nukes, without authority from the White House.
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The US media is NOT entitled to print or distribute classified information, and is NEVER brought-in as it was in this case, so rapidly or on such an elemental and critical faux paus.
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The only logical excuse for the sudden and detail-filled news coverage of this event is that of an intentional release of data for political purposes.
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Declaring that the US Military is lying in the media isn’t illegal provided that one does not expose any actual events or secrets, or violate the UCMJ by disobeying a direct order. All soldiers still have their civil rights. These rights are merely waived as needed for valid military purposes, as it is the job of a soldier to take abnormal risks and bear state secrets.
If it was really a secret, the anonymous sergeant would now be a traitor to the USA, just by talking about it. Thus, the implication that the letter is legit, is ALSO an implication that the letter is NOT legit. There is no need to be anonymous if it’s not a secret. QED. This is an example of a circular argument.
Thus, "I" am not violating any UCMJ or Federal laws by stating that it’s bunk. You can’t cite me for a double negative: I’m stating that what doesn’t exist, doesn’t not exist. We call that the First Amendment, and whether Dumbya likes it or not, it’s still in force. I’m saying that there is no pink elephant.
The missiles were moved, without any doubts, intentionally; OR The missiles were never moved and the press coverage is based on propaganda to scare Iran; OR the missiles were moved and the press coverage is based on propaganda to scare Iran. You can’t prove or disprove what the US military has done without EXTERNAL data. They’ll say whatever they want to suit themselves.
Sincerely,
Don Lee E3/EW
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| unsourceable sergeant wrote: | | One of the biggest problems with killing off Minot is its core mission – all of the nukes it has. Its weapons capability is moving to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana as the AF further consolidates after the Cold War and infrastructure budget cuts because of Iraq et al. |
i find that snippet most enlightening, in view of the possible coming 'de-population' of Louisiana. What's so special about the Gulf of Mexico for Cheney/Blackwater types? It can hardly be 'defense of resources', can it?
Here's a short article that pulls most of the threads together:-
http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/07/did-military-stop-cheney-from .html
| Quote: | | “When addressing audiences receptive to Scriptural prophecy, however, Hagee welcomes the coming confrontation. He argues that a strike against Iran will cause Arab nations to unite under Russia’s leadership, as outlined in chapters 38 and 39 of the Book of Ezekiel, leading to an “inferno [that] will explode across the Middle East, plunging the world toward Armageddon.” |
Strange stuff, Ezekiel - not something I would want in any 'religion' I would subscribe to!
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Even stranger that people think that warnings are strange when NWO atheist humanist are running amok.
(Edit) satanically controlled atheist, whether they realise it or not. |
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Did the Military stop Cheney from destroying the world?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/07/gordon-duff-did-the-military-s top-cheney-from-destroying-the-world/
GORDON DUFF: DID THE MILITARY STOP CHENEY FROM DESTROYING THE WORLD?
July 7, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff · 30 Comments
DOES WHITE HOUSE “APOCALYPSE CULT” STEAL NUKES IN ARMAGEDDON PLOY?
By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor
“Remember the one about the B-52 bomber that, according to legend, had six nuclear weapons loaded onto it by accident, which, of course, could not have happened—by accident—for a dozen different reasons, or more.”
In 2007, a bizarre event occurred. Six nuclear weapons showed up on a B-52 out of nowhere. The public was told they were mistakenly loaded onto the bomber and send flying around the United States. After a 6 week investigation, 70 airmen were punished for the “mistake” but the story hardly ends there. Key personnel at Minot Air Force Base, origin of the “loading mistake” began to have accidents. Loaders and pilots from Minot became some of the unluckiest people on earth. Coincidences pile up as the death toll rises. For every news story available for review, two have disappeared, almost as mysteriously as the deaths they reported. Members of our Air Force keep track of things, from one of their blogs:
| Quote: | “Airman 1st Class Todd Blue was assigned to the unit that provides security for that bomber wing at Minot Air Force base. He died while on leave in Virginia. No further details have been released.
Authorities are investigating the death of a Minot Air Force Base airman who died while on leave in Virginia. Base officials say 20-year-old Airman 1st Class Todd Blue died Monday while visiting family members in Wytheville, Virginia. Blue enlisted in the Air Force in March of last year and joined the 5th Security Forces at Minot Air Force Base the following August. Information on how Blue died has not been released.
Caddo Parish sheriff’s deputies worked a wreck this morning in which two people from Barksdale Air Force Base were killed. The accident, in the 5100 block of Shreveport-Blanchard Highway at 11:30 a.m., claimed the lives of a married couple. Their names have not been released, but the man was 29 and the woman was 32, according to a release from Caddo Parish sheriff’s spokeswoman Cindy Chadwick. The two were riding a 2007 Harley-Davidson motorcycle, with the husband driving and the wife the passenger, Chadwick said.
The woman passenger on the motorcycle died at the scene, while the husband was taken to LSU Hospital in Shreveport, where he died, the release said.
Minot, N.D. (AP) Authorities have identified a Minot Air Force Base man killed in a crash on the outskirts of Minot. Base officials say 20-year-old Adam Barrs was a passenger in a vehicle that failed to negotiate a curve, hit an approach, hit a tree and started on fire late Tuesday night. Barrs was pronounced dead at the scene. The driver is identified as 20-year-old Airman Stephen Garrett.
Bomber Pilot Killed in Crash. A Minot Air Force Base bomber pilot was killed in a motorcycle crash in Tennessee, the base says. 1st Lt. Weston Kissel, 28, was a B-52 pilot assigned to the 23rd Bomb Wing at the Minot base, said Lt. Col. Gerald Hounchell, the 23rd Bomb Squadron commander. Kissel died Tuesday in the crash, while on leave, the base said. Kissel, a native of Tennessee, graduated from the Air Force Academy in 2004, and arrived at the Minot base in July last year, the base said.
Body of Missing Air Force Captain Found. The body of a missing Air Force captain from Florida has been found near Badger Peak in northeast Skamania County, Wash., Portland police said Sunday.
Acting on a tip from Portland police, Skamania County authorities found Capt. John Frueh’s rental car about noon on Saturday. They quickly began a search and rescue mission and, with the help of search dogs, found Frueh’s body near the vehicle about 5 p.m., the Skamania County Sheriff’s Office said.
U.S. Air Force General, Thomas L. Tinsley, Dead from Gunshot Wound to Chest. The officer who commands an air force wing in Alaska has died of a gunshot wound that likely was self-inflicted, authorities said Monday. Brig. Gen. Thomas L. Tinsley suffered a gunshot wound to his chest late Sunday night and was pronounced dead within a half hour, said Col. Richard Walberg, who assumed command at Elmendorf Air Force Base after Tinsley’s death. The weapon was likely a handgun, Walberg said. Medical responders who rushed to Tinsley’s home on base were unable to save him. Tinsley’s wife and college-age daughter were home at the time. Tinsley was named base commander in May 2007. He had served as an F-15 instructor pilot, F-15C test pilot, wing weapons officer, exchange officer and instructor with the Royal Australian Air Force. His previous 22-month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael “Buzz” Mosely, who resigned in June under pressure in an agency shake-up.
Mosely, the Air Force military chief, and Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne, the agency’s civilian head, were held accountable for failing to fully correct an erosion of nuclear-related performance standards. One concern was a cross-country flight in August of a B-52 carrying armed nuclear weapons. Walberg said Tinsley was not under investigation or undue stress. “As far as stress, sir, this job, by nature of being an Air Force officer in a nation at war, is stressful,” he said. “Undue stress, no.”
Captain Jonathan Bayless: Another Minot Air Force Base Death. The 91st Missile Wing is a U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear missile unit. They deal with the Minuteman III ICBMs. The body of a missile combat crew commander from the Minot Air Force was found by police and the cause of his death is under investigation, the Air Force says. A statement issued by the base Sunday said the body of Capt. Jonathan Bayless, 28, was found Friday night. Police did not give details but said it was in an area north of the city soccer complex and they are awaiting autopsy results. Col. Christopher Ayres, the base’s 91st Missile Wing commander, said Bayless was a training chief with the 91st Operations Support Squadron. He had been at the Minot Air Force Base since March 2005.” |
By 2007, there was tremendous fear in the Bush Administration that the lid couldn’t be kept on 9/11, people were coming forward and Commission members were screaming for a Grand Jury.
Look back at 2007. With the Bush administration in tatters, an unprecedented economic disaster hitting the United States and the failures in Afghanistan finally coming to light, a core of Christian Zionists, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Cheney, George W. Bush, Karl Rove, Don Ashcroft, Alberto Gonzales, five supreme court justices and select members of the command structure of the US military decided to use the waning moments of their defacto control of the nuclear forces at their disposal to begin the nuclear war they knew would destroy all life on earth, bringing about the biblical prophesy, the rapture, they had seized power to bring about.
Panic had set in, 9/11, two illegal wars, cutting deals to keep Afghan heroin flowing around the world, deregulating Wall Street bringing about over a trillion dollars in “bankster” fraud, rendition, torture, wiretapping, even with Israel controlling the American press, the cabal felt the walls closing in on them. They felt that their last chance to spend eternity with Jesus while the earth turned into a burned cinder was slipping from their grasp. Hagee had assured them all that they were on G-d’s list for rapture but only if they could get control of the nuclear weapons G-d intended to be used in his name, Hagee’s continual theme.
“When addressing audiences receptive to Scriptural prophecy, however, Hagee welcomes the coming confrontation. He argues that a strike against Iran will cause Arab nations to unite under Russia’s leadership, as outlined in chapters 38 and 39 of the Book of Ezekiel, leading to an “inferno [that] will explode across the Middle East, plunging the world toward Armageddon.”
During his appearance on Hinn’s program at the end of last March, for example, the host enthused, “We are living in the last days. These are the most exciting days in church history,” but then went on to add, “We are facing now [the] most dangerous moment for America.” At one point, Hinn clapped his hands in delight and shouted, “Yes! Glory!” and then urged his viewers to donate money faster because he is running out of time to preach the gospel.”
With the flurry of threats, the Lieberman bill to shut off the Internet, the TSA filtering all but corporate press sites and Obama’s discussions of making “conspiracy theory,” read “investigative journalism” a crime, the leopard is finally showing its spots.
With Alan Hart of the BBC and Dr. Alan Sabrosky formerly of the Army War College openly stating that it is common knowledge among informed circles that 9/11 was an Israeli/Neo-con phony “Pearl Harbor” based on recommendations from Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Pearle, a planned act of sabotage as the only way of fulfilling an extremist agenda, shutting down open debate has become the highest national priority.
When the core of power in America, Executive, Legislative, Judicial and Military, belong to a religious sect whose beliefs are well beyond any “tinfoil hat” alien abduction cult, stifling “conspiracy theory” is vital. Look at who is on the Supreme Court? What planet to they represent a cross section of, not earth certainly?
You don’t have to be a subscriber of www.bradblog.com to pick up on the fact that CIA contractors run the electronic voting machines in the US or that hundreds of billions of dollars have disappeared in Iraq and Afghanistan and nobody has said a word about it. How do we explain that Afghanistan went from no opium production under the Taliban to 25% increases in production every year under a NATO eradication program that spent over $2 billion? Who needs conspiracy when reality goes so much further.
We asked sources with a good knowledge of Air Force procedures how a renegade gang could steal 6 nuclear weapons and almost end all life on earth. Few Americans know of the takeover of key areas of our defense by religious extremists groups under the control of John Hagee, advocate of using America’s military to force an immediate nuclear apocalypse based on fringe interpretations of biblical prophesy.
Hagee followers in the military have no problem stealing nuclear weapons, loading them for the bombing run on Iran that the Reverend Hagee, leader of Israel’s Christian lobby in the US, and top advisor to Bush, Cheney, Lieberman and McCain, has demanded daily with his every breath. The “unofficial” Air Force view as expressed to me yesterday:
“The US nuke program has been a mess for the past few years. When the jet flew from Minot to Barksdale with real nukes on board without them knowing about it is not supposed to happen. I know a friend that has been brought in to clean house and he is brilliant and street smart…his daddy is a former XXXXX
When Gates fired the former USAF Chief of Staff, AFRC/CC and Sec. of the Air Force is a good hint that things were not right. The current Secretary of the Air Force is OK, but the current Chief of Staff called the “Baboon” should indicate that things within the Air Force are still not like they should be.
I have never seen so many incidents in the Air Force as I have in recent years. A lot of the violators were Zoomies/Air Force Academy grads. (John Hagee followers…)
In the old days you knew where every nuke was known to man. If you had nukes on your jet you had to go through a special entry point and all of your ID and orders were checked and double checked. Just to carry nukes you had to have all of your brain cells moving in the same direction. If you were a nuclear certified drop crew (Strategic Air Command) you had to be sharp, but most of the pilot grads opted to fly fighters and air transports vs. nuclear alert (bottom of the pilot class usually went to bombers).
Minot, Offutt, Barksdale, Fairchild, Lakenheath, Guam, Diego, etc. have most of the Warsaw Pact Heating and Air Conditioning Equipment (advanced radiation detection gear). It would be tough to carry a big nuke anywhere. They have so many radiation detectors to sniff things out like this I would say highly unlikely unless it was a small suit case nuke or some high grade weapons material used to make a nuke. Again, I am or was a pilot and at one time could have done some major damage if the go code were sent….
The Air Force is keeping a lot of the weak XXXXX (officers) and also getting rid of many of the Chief’s who had a lot of power to raise his hand and say time out.”
When accidents start to happen, accidents not unlike the Pat Tillman “friendly fire” accident, four carefully placed shots to the forehead, we see evidence that the Hagee fervor has gained a following in our Special Operations Command as well.
Alan Hart, BBC Mid-East (audio link) correspondent for decades, confidant of Golda Meir and Yasser Arafat reported that one of the six nukes from Minot had also mysteriously disappeared. Confidential reports from highly placed sources claim that Vice President Cheney had personally ordered these weapons deployed for a nuclear attack on Iran, coordinated with Israel.
Hart, one of the top “mainstream” correspondents and respected defense expert with access to some of the best security sources in the world also confirmed that at least six of the alleged 9/11 hijackers have been positively identified as alive and well. Additional confirmations were received on this controversial assertion, adding credence to the claims that pilots unable to land a Cessna couldn’t weave an airliner at 600 knots through lower Manhattan without a navigation device similar to those used on Tomahawk missiles.
With so much coming back to 9/11 and the endless theories, the half-baked cover up and the dozens of “truth” groups, now targets of FBI and Homeland Security infiltration at presidential order, those who stayed silent, within the defense establishment, do occasionally speak out:
“There is a pilot named Field McConnell who was an academy grad who came up with the same idea many years ago and they went after him ASAP. I think that NWA fired him and that he now works for an airline in India (King Fisher). Field had engineering reports, etc., but they made him out to look nuts. He believes that Boeing has some type of chip installed in the autopilot as well that can be overridden and flown by big brother. (Ed: The controllers of the “robot” 9/11 flights are reputed to be the Mossad agents, the “dancing Israeli’s” who were arrested by the FBI on 9/11″)
I know how to over ride this if that happened….. He had diagram of the charges placed in the towers as well that would coincide with the jets hitting the towers assisting the collapse of the towers easier. You did know that there were many more planed strikes that day didn’t you?
It was going to be far worse. The FAA had the jets land and the rest of the terrorist just walked off the jets and out of the terminals. They were going to hit Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, LAX, Seattle, etc. There was a more extensive list that was floating around years ago that I think to be very accurate. The 9-11 Commission was a joke, especially Lee Hamilton from Indiana barely knew what state he was from on a good day.”
When information comes in from the press, corporate, fringe, investigative, or political, there is always an agenda behind it. When members of our military respond with rage at mysterious deaths, outlandish breaks with procedure and outright hijacking of our strategic capabilities by dangerous fanatics, it is quite something else. Did our military, what is left of it, step in to defend the world from terrorist fanatics who had seized control of America’s government and wanted to take the planet down with them?
Did the Bush administration believe they were facing war crimes prosecution as so many had predicted, and believed pulling down the world around them was justified according to their the endless missives from their spiritual guru, John Hagee?
Seldom have so many facts failed to yield any conclusion. Those who stopped the Cheney-Hagee ploy, their attempt to sacrifice America and even the world for Israel, are heroes we will never know but always owe our lives to.
And so it goes…[/quote]
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I'm posting Fulford's latest here only because it sounds so much like the Minot nuclear heist - uncanny, waffle, or a hidden message?
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/
10/11/2010
Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis101011: Six North Korean atomic bombs located in Japan, five have been seized by the police
| bin Fulminating wrote: | | The North Korean government smuggled six nuclear weapons into Japan to use as blackmail against the Japanese government, according to a senior Japanese public security police source. Five of the bombs have been seized by Japanese authorities but the sixth is located in the basement of the headquarters of the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan (Chosen Soren) and police have been warned it will be set off if they try to seize it. The discovery of the bombs by Japanese authorities confirms the original warning about the North Korean plot to attack with Japan that from a KGB agent who claimed to report directly to Russian Prime Minister Putin. The nuclear blackmail is linked to a failed Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate plot to start World War 3 on the Korean peninsula in a bid to stave off bankruptcy. |
Or more likely just more of the same? In other words; NWO boilerplate 'plans' for ramping up the fear of the 'ignorant masses'? So now they can add laziness to their arrogance?
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outsider
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Thermate911 wrote: | I'm posting Fulford's latest here only because it sounds so much like the Minot nuclear heist - uncanny, waffle, or a hidden message?
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/
10/11/2010
Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis101011: Six North Korean atomic bombs located in Japan, five have been seized by the police
| bin Fulminating wrote: | | The North Korean government smuggled six nuclear weapons into Japan to use as blackmail against the Japanese government, according to a senior Japanese public security police source. Five of the bombs have been seized by Japanese authorities but the sixth is located in the basement of the headquarters of the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan (Chosen Soren) and police have been warned it will be set off if they try to seize it. The discovery of the bombs by Japanese authorities confirms the original warning about the North Korean plot to attack with Japan that from a KGB agent who claimed to report directly to Russian Prime Minister Putin. The nuclear blackmail is linked to a failed Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate plot to start World War 3 on the Korean peninsula in a bid to stave off bankruptcy. |
Or more likely just more of the same? In other words; NWO boilerplate 'plans' for ramping up the fear of the 'ignorant masses'? So now they can add laziness to their arrogance? |
I think this illuminates the post better than six nuclear squibs:
http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/print.php?id=15366
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Thermate911
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Fulford wrote: | | “Obama is now allied with the military and he has kicked the Jews out of his government.” |
Hardly! The Zionists (not necessarily Jews) are everywhere throughout all western govts, even Sweden and New Zealand. More misdirection, ISTM... Interesting how Fulford keeps harping on about R.C.Dam and his OITC.
It's all a smokescreen, IMO, to divert peoples' attention from the real dangers we collectively face as a species. Slow, slow drip; fast, fast boil...and the most recent asteroid-let (2010 TD54) just passed within 28000 miles of Earth...
http://www.newkerala.com/news/world/fullnews-61199.html
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