Disco_Destroyer
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 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: Gainville Georgia 4 'Terrorists' Arrested |
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just in time for more war, wtf they are all over 65
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/211347/40/GAINESVILLE-Terror-suspe cts-want-bond-pending-trial
GAINESVILLE: Terror suspects want bond pending trial
9:41 PM, Nov 2, 2011
| Quote: | GAINESVILLE, Ga. -- Four North Georgia men accused of planning attacks on unnamed government officials with ricin and explosives indicated in court Wednesday that they wanted a bond hearing. The hearing, along with a preliminary hearing, will be held Nov. 9, once the defendants are appointed lawyers.
All four men qualified for court-appointed lawyers and will be held in the Hall County jail.
The men -- Frederick Thomas, 73, of Cleveland, Dan Roberts, 67, of Toccoa, Ray Adams, 65, of Toccoa and Samuel Crump, 68, of Toccoa -- were arrested Tuesday. Authorities said the men were allegedly trying to obtain an explosive device and silencer and manufacture ricin for use in the attacks.
Thomas and Roberts are charged with conspiring to buy an explosive device and an illegal silencer to conduct attacks on government buildings. Adams and Crump have been charged with conspiring to carry out an attack with the deadly biological toxin ricin.
Court documents say the men intended to use an online novel as a script for a real-life wave of terror and assassination.
U.S. Attorney Sally Yates said the group that called themselves the "covert group" was under the close eye of the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, who had an informant in the group.
"It started earlier this year when an informant talked to the FBI about information and conversations that he had overheard," Yates said. "He then began cooperating with the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force and recorded meetings with the four individuals charged today."
"These individuals were never at a point where they were actually able to carry this out without the FBI's knowledge," Yates said. ""They were monitoring this every step of the way."
According to a federal affidavit, Frederick Thomas made a trip to Atlanta to do surveillance on government buildings, including the ATF offices in DeKalb County and the IRS offices in Atlanta. Thomas openly discussed what he called a "bucket list" of targets. According to the affidavit the "bucket list" was "...a list of government employees, politicians, corporate leaders and members of the media he feels needed to be "taken out" to "make the country right again."
During the trip to Atlanta, Thomas made the following statements according to the affidavit: "Let's shoot the b****** that we discover are anti-American or enemies of America, treasonous. And to me the easiest and best way to do that is to walk up behind them with a suppressed .22. I am of the, uh, old school, Mafia; one behind the ear with a .22 is all you need."
According to the affidavit, Thomas made the following statement: "I could shoot ATF and IRS all day long. All the judges and the DOJ (Department of Justice) and the attorneys and prosecutors."
They discussed plans to make and disburse the highly deadly biological toxin ricin in Atlanta by having it blown from a car traveling on the interstates, according to the affidavit.
Thomas is quoted in the affidavit from a recorded conversation with the informant: "There is no way for us, as militiamen, to save the country, to save Georgia, without doing something that's highly illegal. Murder. That's (expletive) illegal, but it's gotta be done. When it comes time to saving the Constitution, that means some people gotta die."
While Thomas was doing surveillance on the federal buildings in Atlanta, he talked about using silencers to shoot people and explosives to blow up the buildings, according to the affidavit. "We'd have to blow the whole building, like Timothy McVeigh," Thomas is quoted as saying in the criminal complaint.
Yates said two of the men were trying to obtain C-4 explosives and two others had already acquired some of the ingredients to make ricin.
Local residents are shocked
Many of the 10,000 people who live in the picturesque North Georgia town of Toccoa are shocked by the arrests of four local senior citizens as alleged domestic terrorists.
But perhaps no one is more shocked than Stephens County Sheriff Randy Shirley.
"I've known 'em for 34 years and I am just like the community," he told 11 Alive News on Tuesday.
Shirley still can't believe what he's read about the local men, aged 65 to 73, supposedly plotting to get toxic chemicals, explosives and weapons to assassinate federal, state and possibly local officials...like him.
"These are friends of mine," Shirley said.
No one would talk at the home of 67-year-old Dan Roberts who lives just outside town.
A neighbor who lives across the street has known Roberts and his wife for 13 years.
She didn't want to be identified, but told 11Alive News she can't believe it.
"They're just quiet people; they mind their own business," she added.
No one lives near the secluded home of 65-year-old Ray Adams, which sits well hidden off a dirt road several miles East of Toccoa.
Sam Crump, 68, lives with his sister in a home near town.
No one answered the door there, either, but a neighbor from across the street said he wants to see solid evidence before making up his mind.
"I'm not making any assumptions," said Phil Gruber.
"If Sam came to me tomorrow and needed help, I'd give it to him," he added.
Sheriff Shirley said as far as he knows, none of the men has been in trouble with the law, at least around here.
"Last week I would have said, 'no way'; senior citizens we're talking about," he added.
The oldest and the alleged ring leader, 73-year-old Frederick Thomas, lives about 40 miles away in Cleveland, which is in neighboring White County.
Many people around Toccoa point out that the men are innocent until proven guilty, but the Sheriff adds, "sometimes you just never know." |
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