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Why do you think the date of 11th September 2001 was used ?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Why 9/11 ? |
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| Mark Gobell wrote: | | Why do you think the date of 11th September 2001 was used ? |
911 is the emergency number in the U.S. so it is a terminal reminder. It is forever lodged in the American psyche. |
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"It has emotional associations because it's the magic number we can call in an emergency.... a benevolent figure, the government, will come rushing to help us. It's these emotional associations, not facts, that conditions how we think"
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I was sent the following from an American. As an atheist, I don't know what to think and would welcome your comments.
| Quote: | The extent to which I or others are serious about numerology shouldn't be taken out of context. The greater issue is that we--the U.S., U.K., the rest of the world--are headed toward global totalitarianism using the terrorism and psy ops on the populations much as Orwell warned us about.
The amount of foreshadowing that has taken and is taking place in entertainment outlets is undeniable. For instance, Murdoch's New World Communications corporation has given us a great deal of, shall we say, winks and nods in their programming. The X-files, which got a bit ridiculous, did tell the truth about clandestine U.S. government operations, especially as it pertains to what has gone and is going in, to be specific, the state of West Virginia, in which is located the vast underground facility known as Mount Weather--the place the President and other necessary officials will take cover should the hard rain fall on D.C. West Virginia is home to listening stations and other interesting operatons. It is also the state that has been veritably owned by the Rockefeller family, one of the most influential among the Robber Barons, who obtained untold wealth and bought out our govenment--and, by extension, the misuse of the military--and the information outlets so that light would never be shed on what they are endeavoring to create, which is, as David Rockefeller stated in his biogrpahy, a one-world government.
As an example of what is believed to be "predictive programming," it shouldn't be forgotten (but it has been to a great degree) that The X-files spun off The Lone Gunmen, whose pilot episode dealt with these computer geeks hacking into and deprogramming a 757 that was being remotely flown into the Trade Towers. The episode was aired in March 2001. Dean Haglund, one of the geeks, was shaken by the episode and has given interviews in which he stated that producer Chris Carter (X-files, Lone Gunmen, Millennium) did consult with FBI and CIA for program material.
Not to belabor the point further, the weavers of fantasy weave more than fantasy, much like Wells, Dick, Huxley, Burgess, Clarke, et.al, did utilizing prose. Were they prescient? I doubt it. Were they aware of the desire and plan for global government to inlcude a slavish, rigid caste system? Yes. That didn't mean they all were exponents of it--though Wells and Huxley clearly were--but they did "tell" the world through supposed fiction of what was to come.
The 9-11 issue itself, I believe, is important from the standpoint of numerology--an issue imbedded in all of spirituality--to include Satanism and Christianity.
9 and 11 have many applications in the occult world. But I have come across something interesting that prove to be indicting if true:
Dr. Ernest Martin, a Christian preacher, in 1996, wrote The Star of Bethlehem, in which he stated applying the astronomical conditions found in the New Testament accounts of Christ's birth that it could have only been on September 11th.
http://www.askelm.com/star/star006.htm
Christ was certainly not born in late December, but Constantine "moved" the celebration (which is a pagan practice in itself) to be juxtaposed in proximity to the winter solstice or the Feast of Saturnalia. Dumbhead Christians believe that was done to make the pagans more comfortable coming over to Christianity. In essence, it was quite the other way around.
If Christ's birth is 9-11, then all the more reason for the dark forces to inflict a tragedy on that day. Their little private joke on the rest of us. It might also be the case, by extension, that the inclusion of 9-11 visuals in movies was part of that sick joke.
Does this mean that all on the set of the movies or who were involved with the project knew of the inclusions? Not in the slightest. It would only take the knowledge of, say, a producer. As those who watched the movies never caught it (though many did later), so those who worked on the sets never thought twice about it.
There are some 9-11 visuals (all whose appearances occurred before 9-11-01) that are curioser than others: The placement of "9/11" and scorpions on every box in the step van in Traffic and the shot of the indash radio in Gremlins with the Saphhire XI, which is the stone for September and X! = 11. There are many that seem as if someone had gone out of his way to pop them into the program.
When the first Bush came into office, his first mention of his Theosophic phrases along with New World Order was before Congress on 9-11-91.
The purpose of considering--not obsessing over--this possibility is--for those who believe in real Christianity (not religion) and on scripture and, too, for those who aren't believers--to countenance this particular perception of what and who are behind the killing and the drive toward world totalitarianism. As the scripture states: "for we wrestle not with flesh and blood but principalities of darkness."
When I was challenged about this--and most of the leg work on this was done by an Australian and others around the world--and told that anybody looking for the repetition of other numbers in film and TV would find them, I returned the challenge and told them to go for it. It's been two years now and I haven't heard from one of them.
The Simpsons, which had the 9-11 on the travel guide, by the way, is yet another Murdoch program.
While I don't get crazy over this, I think it does reveal an even more sinister side of what is going on in this world. I think it would also be a miscalculation to laugh it off as well. Isn't history replete with personages who scoffed at certain warnings, only to find themselves, their armies, and their nations laid to waste?
As the wise guy who wrote "Proverbs" stated: "Before destruction the heart of man is haughty." |
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As far as the occult goes, do some research into the road layout of Washington DC (as well as the dollar note)
Pure freemasonry. |
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tenth anniversary of daddys speech in 1991, the old ' a new world order is possible' one!
i love the way on the dollar not if you impose a star of david over the 1776 pyramid joggy it spells masons at the corners of the star. |
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Just a snippet re the date 911: it was the 60th anniversary to the day since the ground breaking ceremony to mark the start of the building of the Pentagon.
This is the first para from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon#Construction
| Quote: | | Prior to the construction of the Pentagon, the War Department (now the Department of Defense) was housed in a series of "temporary" buildings erected during World War I which nearly covered the National Mall. Ground was broken for the Pentagon on September 11, 1941, with construction completed in approximately sixteen months at a cost of $83 million |
This fact is confirmed on the Pentagon's own website here:
http://pentagon.afis.osd.mil/history.cfm
| Quote: | History of the Pentagon
The Pentagon—a building, institution, and symbol—was conceived at the request of Brigadier General Brehon B. Sommervell, Chief of the Construction Division of the Office of the Quartermaster General, on a weekend in mid-July 1941. The purpose was to provide a temporary solution to the War Department's critical shortage of space. The groundbreaking ceremony took place on September 11, 1941. The building was dedicated on January 15, 1943, nearly 16 months to the day after the groundbreaking. |
Just as a final incidental point, the Pentagon has a cafe in the central plaza called the "Ground Zero Cafe" (this is apparently an example of gallows humour and a reference to the fact that in the event of a nuclear war the Pentagon would be a major target).
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it IS very important to study the occultist clues! Don't be put off because nearly all, if NOT all, of the sources pointing it out are coming from a Christian perspective. Just see through their particular preachyness, and focus on the kernal of occultist info, etc
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: 9/11 and Numerology |
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| Also, a member of this site used to post examples of the numerology used with 9/11 and other events. I have tried the search but to no avail. |
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September 11th 1609 - Henry Hudson discovered New York.
September 11th 1776 - Staten Island Peace Conference.
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The Battle of Vienna 1683
| Quote: | | At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. |
September 11th, 1683, the day when an alliance of Christian armies led by Jan III Sobieski, the King of Poland, arrived at the Gates of Vienna to do battle with the Ottoman Empire.
Contrast:
September 11th, 2001, the day when an alliance of persons unknown contrived to provoke an alliance of nominally Judeo / Christian armies led by George Bush II, the President of America, to launch the Clash of Civilisations to do battle with Islam.
| Quote: | | We are in a new phase of a very old war. |
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http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/1149662085-86119763/content~content=a 791807255~db=all~jumptype=rss
Karaite Joseph Ezra Dubitskii and King John III Sobieski: on Jewish physicians, Christianity, and a fifteenth-century illuminated manuscript from Windsor Castle
Author: Mikhail Kizilov a
Affiliation: a Merton College, Oxford, UK
DOI: 10.1080/13501670801897452
Publication Frequency: 3 issues per year
Published in: journal East European Jewish Affairs, Volume 38, Issue 1 April 2008 , pages 45 - 64
Subjects: European Studies; Judaism; Russia -The Former Soviet Union & East European Studies;
Formats available: HTML (English) : PDF (English)
Article Requests: Order Reprints : Request Permissions
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An early fifteenth-century illuminated manuscript, known also as the Sobieski Book of Hours, is undoubtedly one of the most valuable medieval manuscripts from those currently kept in the Royal Library at Windsor Castle. Produced in the workshop of the Master of the Duke of Bedford in Paris between 1420 and 1425, this beautiful manuscript represents a collection of prayers for private devotional use. Somewhat surprisingly, the only exact chronological reference which reflects travels of this unique Christian manuscript is a lengthy Hebrew inscription left on one of its folios in 1683, the time when this manuscript was in the possession of the Polish King John (Jan) III Sobieski. A logical question - why a Jew was allowed to leave a message on a most precious Christian manuscript - has been troubling the minds of scholars in the last few decades. This article is an attempt to solve the mystery of this Hebrew inscription and, furthermore, cast a light on the relations between Polish kings and their Jewish physicians. Special attention is dedicated to the role of Karaite (i.e. non-Talmudic) physicians and their attitude to Christianity in seventeenth-century Poland. The article contributes to our understanding of the position of the Jewish community in early modern Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and development of Jewish-Christian dialogue in Eastern Europe in general.
Keywords: Karaites; Rabbanites; medical science; Poland; kings; Sobieski |
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one 911 reference that struck me is that in the matrix , neos passport expires on 9/11/2001......
i think something significant happened involving kissenger on a past 9/11 |
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Perhaps someone in Mossad who knew his Kabbalah noted that 911 is the gematria number value (using the Hebrew alphabet) of Bar Shachath, the fifth Hell, whose meaning is:
"Pit of Destruction."
(Source: Godwin's Cabalistic Encyclopedia, Llewellyn Publications, USA, 1999, p. 611).
Only joking of course..... |
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Mark explains this much better on another thread.
The question remains, having seen the patterning where do we go with it? |
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I don't normally like to contribute to such speculative discussions but reading recently about the recent messy assassination in Dubai, I came across a reference to the "Black September" terrorist group that killed eleven Israelis in the 1972 Olympics.
September 11th could be a message writ large to somebody-in-the-know would understand: referencing the name of the terrorist group and number of Israelis killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_%28group%29 |
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Slightly off topic but all this numbering stuff and gematria and someone recommending the film Knowing i was rather spooked at this recent "coincidence". As my 51st birthday fell on a Sunday (busy church day for me) we decided to go for a family meal together on the saturday. As there was 5 of us we pulled a couple of pub tables together. My eldest is studying Film, TV and Media at Uni so a topic of conversation was the Knowing dvd which snowballed into gematria and items covered in this topic. My other son then pointed out the table number he was on was Nr 51 as my actual birthday was not till the following day i was gobsmacked when i saw that the table number i was on was actually 50.
Random coincidence? any significance? No idea.
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| Quote: | | "Black September" terrorist group that killed eleven Israelis in the 1972 Olympics. |
I have heard it said, I wonder if this is where 'Black Sabbath' got the name from.
Pop music has its bad influences (and numerology ect) is and has been used as we all know.
Sometimes a few songs have some truth to them. Like the song 'War pigs.'
Black September (group) Wiki
'The group's name derives from the Black September conflict begun on 16 September 1970, when King Hussein of Jordan declared military rule in response to a fedayeen coup d’état to seize his kingdom — resulting in the deaths or expulsion of thousands of Palestinians from Jordan. The BSO began as a small cell of Fatah men determined to take revenge upon King Hussein and the Jordanian army. Recruits from the PFLP, as-Sa'iqa, and other groups also joined.'
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo135x0oXo8
If you listen to the song, not the lyrics mostly posted ( 'Oh Lord Jailer' not Oh,Lord)
'Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'til their judgement day comes
Yeah!
Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
Oh lord yeah!'
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