Did a Global Hawk Airforce Drone hit the Pentagon on 9/11?

[Sabrewolf]

Samuel Danner, an experienced pilot from Maryland says he witnessed the attack on the Pentagon from less than 500 feet. Danner said the aircraft in question was not a Boeing but a very quiet-flying drone-like aircraft without any cockpit or fuselage windows. Other eyewitnesses have come forward with similar accounts. Private investigators believe the Pentagon was hit by a DU- weaponized remote-controlled Global Hawk.

Global Hawks are extremly light weight about 4 tons and more than 50% is carbon fiber and resin. That would explain why there was less than 2 tons of scrap at the Pentagon!


Link

[fish5133]

The youtube clip contains known facts with a lot of unverified opinion.(search and rescue dogs) Seems to be muddying the truth.

[Sabrewolf]

Could a Global Hawk Drone Have Hit The Pentagon?
June 6, 2008

“It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it’s physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.”

-Donald Rumsfeld, Interviewed October 12th, Parade

Lots of things point to the conclusion that a small unmanned drone aircraft hit the pentagon, not a 757.

This would explain the reluctance to release better videos from pentagon. This would explain the strange maneuvers, and the ability to fly so close to the ground. It would explain why the plane was not shot down by the pentagon air defense system allegedly in place. (It would be a military plane). It would also explain why eye witnesses talked about, “missile with wings” and “small commuter plane” and the engine’s high pitch squeal. (The much smaller Rolls Royce engine of the drone plane would have a distinct high pitch sound as opposed to the darker rumble of two huge 757-engines.)

In the above quote it seems like Donald Rumsfeld had a "slip of the lip" when he said "and the missile to damage this building". He is clearly acknowledgeing that something other than a "plane" damaged the Pentagon, as we are lead to believe. The lies that keep unraveling.

[Sabrewolf]

MYSTERY PENTAGON DISC FROM A GLOBAL HAWK? *PIC*
Posted By: Christopher Bollyn
Date: Sunday, 12-Oct-2003 05:15:59
Controversy Swirling Over September 11 Pentagon Mystery:

Industry Experts Can’t Explain Photo Evidence

By Christopher Bollyn
Exclusive to American Free Press

Since AFP first published a photograph from the 9-11 Pentagon crash site, there has been a great outpouring of interest—and disinfo.

When American Free Press published a hard-to-find photo from the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) archive showing a small turbine disc from the Pentagon crash site, it was hoped that readers could help identify the object (Sept. 15 & 22). Since the photo and article were published there has been an outpouring of interest—and disinformation—about the unidentified jet engine part.

The photograph reveals a crucial piece of evidence, which if positively identified could help prove what kind of aircraft hit the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

“Is this the 9-11 smoking gun?” Fintan Dunne, editor of WagKingdom.com asks on a web page dedicated to the FEMA photographs. These photos could be the keys to unlock the cover-up, Dunne wrote on Oct. 7.

“Among all the arguments about 9-11: tower fires, WTC 7 collapse, etc., none seems as straightforward as that posed by the jet engine part,” Dunne said. If the Pentagon photos are authentic, he said, then either the turbine is from a Boeing 757, or it is not. The web site appeals to “aero engineers” for help in identifying the disc seen in the FEMA photos.

The photograph is one of many taken by Jocelyn Augustino, a FEMA photographer, at the Pentagon crash site on Sept. 13, 2001. In the FEMA on-line photo library, the best photos of the unidentified disc are numbered 4414 and 4415, archived at: www.photolibrary.fema.gov/ photolibrary/advancedsearch.do.

Several readers wrote to AFP suggesting that the unidentified disc was a piece from the Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) mounted in the tail section of a Boeing 757. Honeywell makes the GTCP331-200 APU used on the 757 aircraft. No one suggested, however, that the small disc was a piece from one of the main engines of a 757-200.

AFP contacted Honeywell’s Aerospace division in Phoenix, Ariz., and sent high-resolution photos for their examination. “There’s no way that’s an APU wheel,” an expert at Honeywell told AFP. The expert, who cannot be named, added: “That turbine disc—there’s no way in the world that came out of an APU.”

American Free Press contacted Pratt & Whitney and Rolls Royce, manufacturers of the 757’s turbofan jet engines to try and identify the piece.

“If the aircraft that struck the Pentagon was a Boeing 757-200 owned by American Airlines, then it would have to be a Rolls Royce engine,” Mark Sullivan, spokesman for Pratt & Whitney, told AFP.

John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: “It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I’m familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy.”

The AE 3007 engines are used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE 3007H is also used in the military’s unmanned aircraft, the Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumman’s subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, Inc. in July 1999.

A detailed photo of the front fan of a Global Hawk is online at:
http://www.rolls-royce.com/media/gallery/defence/lrg_ae3007_6.htm

If the government version that an American Airlines 757-200 hit the Pentagon is accurate, then the object in the photo would have to be from a Rolls Royce RB211-535 turbofan engine.

When AFP told Brown that it must be a piece of a Rolls Royce engine, Brown balked and asked who at Pratt & Whitney had provided the information.

Asked again if the disc in the photo is a piece of a Rolls Royce RB211-535, or from the AE 3007 series, Brown said he could not answer.

AFP then asked Brown if he was actually familiar with the parts of an AE 3007H, which is made at the Indiana plant: “No,” Brown said. “I don’t build the engines. I am a spokesman for the company. I speak for the company.”

Rolls Royce produces the RB211-535 engines for American Airlines 757-200 aircraft at a plant in Derby, England. Martin Johnson, head of communications at Rolls Royce in Derby, said he had followed the story closely in American Free Press and had also been notified in advance by Rolls Royce offices in Seattle and Indianapolis.

However, rather than address the question of the unidentified disc, Johnson launched a verbal attack on this reporter for questioning the government version of events at the Pentagon on 9-11. “You are the only person in the world who does not believe that a 757 hit the Pentagon,” Johnson said. “The idea that we can have a reasonable conversation is beyond your wildest dreams,” Johnson said and hung up the phone.

Flug Revue, a German magazine about aviation equipment was more willing to discuss the disc. Karl Schwarz, a technical editor at the Bonn-based publication, examined the photo and technical drawings of the RB211-535 for AFP. “I think only an engineer who is involved in the design of the engine could identify the part,” Schwarz said.

While the front fan of the RB211-535 has a 74.5-inch diameter, compression discs inside the engine are much smaller. Schwarz said the inner discs are between 29 and 41 inches in diameter. “It could well be” an inner compression disc, Schwarz said. The discs from the inner stages are made of titanium, he added.

AFP asked Schwarz if this could be a disc from a smaller engine, such as the Global Hawk’s AE 3007H. “It could come from any jet engine,” Schwarz said.

If the disc in the photo can be matched with a Rolls Royce AE 3007H engine, some speculate that it would prove something like a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon.

The Global Hawk engine is hand built at the Rolls Royce plant in Indianapolis and has an opening diameter of 43.5 inches. Schwarz said he did not have a technical diagram of an AE 3007 engine to consult.

Because the disc in the photo appears very similar in size and shape to the front fan of a Global Hawk engine, AFP asked Schwarz in what position is the solid disc found behind the front fan of a turbofan engine. “Immediately,” Schwarz said.

An unnamed former cruise missile engineer for the engine manufacturer Teledyne Continental Motors-Turbine Engines added his opinion to the debate:

“Clearly, the part in the picture is larger than 24 inches in diameter. It also appears to have a nosepiece-like device on its front. This probably houses bearings, front oil sump and perhaps an alternator or starter.”

This engineer concluded with the intriguing comment, “This fan did not come from a cruise missile engine.”

[Sabrewolf]

Here is a comparison of the "Mystery Pentagon Disc" & a Rolls-Royce AE-3007 Global Hawk Engine. From the view of the front fan, both images look very simular.

[outsider]

The answer is a drone was knocked out just before it hit the Pentagon, and the debris littered the lawn; but NOT in front of the 18" diameter hole we were assured the 'Boeing' disappeared into.
Watch Barbara Honegger's 'Behind The Smoke Curtain: THE 9/11 Pentagon Attack':

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvJ8nFa5Qk

[outsider]

[fish5133]

not watched it yet--- tend to get suspicious if someone needs 3 hours to try and convince me.---- will give it a brief viewing . If a drone was taken out --what made the supposed exit hole? the engine of the drone?

Good to know its still being looked at under scrutiny-----easy to forget pentagon and shanksville amidst the WTC coverage. [/quote]

updated after watching

Excellent had me rivetted after 5 mins and what a remarkable lady and brain. Learnt alot of new info.
Thoruoghly well researched stuff and generally has that ring of truth about it. The bit about remote hijacking and the later mention of 911 Malaysia Convention of 2012 supported by previous Malaysian leader makes one wonder of a connection with missing/shot down planes--a warning shot across the bows.
Only bit that struck me as "nonsense" was the bit about fire trucks spraying to block the view to Pentagon Facade. ( i think fire firefighters would have more integrity to obey such an order)

[outsider]

[HowEYEfeeL]

I'll try to convince you in less then 10min

Link


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwtEuJ4ZT4g

[TonyGosling]

Nice

https://twitter.com/thedyer1971/status/645631499874762753

[TonyGosling]

The 757 SkyWarrior: 9/11 Pentagon Reality Check 17

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbw-SWxqzKI

There is a lot of evidence indicating one of the planes that actually flew towards the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 was a remotely operated A-3D SkyWarrior PAINTED to look like an American Airlines 757 since it resembles the latter in its lay-out. Former GOP Insider Karl Schwarz and Jon Carlson did the ground-breaking work:

http://home.att.net/~carlson.jon/
http://home.att.net/~carlson.jon/

Followed by an in-depth photo analysis by the legendary visual expert Jack White:

http://www.911studies.com/

We built a scale plastic model of an A-3D SkyWarrior and painted and marked it as an American Airlines 757, creating the "757 SkyWarrior" depicted flying using green screen CGI technology.

Seeing is NOT Believing: How the Nazis Gave us the 9/11 Pentagon False Flag Attack

http://www.combatreform.org/

[outsider]

There is an interesting post on Facebook by Nanette White about a starnge 'Warehouse Fire' which destroyed the evidence that had been 'collected' by the FBI at the Pentagon:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/The911TruthMovement/?multi_permalinks= 1149277218767394&notif_id=1591019030299711&notif_t=group_highlights
The post is very long, because she wanted to have all the material together in case some got 'disappeared', so put full articles in.
I'll try to just put links, but if you want the lot, check the Facebook link above.
What is interesting, of course, is most of us know no Boeing hit the Pentagon, so all the 'evidence' was fake. Handy fire - now no one in future can re-asses the 'evidence'.
'FBI Agent Dies of 9/11 Cancer
Special Agent Melissa S. Morrow died on March 22 from brain cancer caused by exposure to contaminants at the Pentagon after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack.':
https://www.officer.com/features/honoring-the-fallen/news/20998000/fbi -special-agent-melissa-s-morrow-dies-of-911related-cancer
'6-Alarm, $6 Million Virginia Warehouse Fire Was No Accident':
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/6-alarm-6-million-alexandria- warehouse-fire-was-no-accident/1924431/
'Video: Six-alarm warehouse fire with water supply problems in Alexandria, VA.': https://www.statter911.com/2013/09/02/video-six-alarm-warehouse-fire-w ith-water-supply-problems-in-alexandria-va/
'Alexandria warehouse fire was no accident':
https://wtop.com/news/2013/09/alexandria-warehouse-fire-was-no-acciden t/
'...Fire marshals with the Alexandria Fire Department, working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have ruled out all accidental causes and determined the fire was incendiary in nature.
“It’s not the same thing as arson. Arson has a specific legal definition,” Alexandria Fire Chief Adam Thiel told reporters during a briefing Tuesday night in Alexandria’s Market Square.
Investigators have also identified a person of interest in connection with the fire, and the case has been forwarded to prosecutors.
(Later released!! outsider)
“Ultimately how this case will be prosecuted and what will happen next is up to the Commonwealth’s Attorney,” said Thiel.
The chief said investigators have been working day and night for a week inside the 43,000 square foot warehouse.
“There’s a great deal of evidence. This was an exhaustive investigation.”
Officials estimate the damages and loss from the fire to be about $6 million.
The fire broke out around midday on Labor Day at the three-story building along South Pickett Street and it took firefighters four hours to contain.
Dark smoke could be seen for miles.
A water main break on the same day and the same block as the fire complicated the response.
“This would have been a major fire regardless of the water main break, because of the nature of the fuels involved, the nature of the building and because of the day,” Thiel said....'
'...[Note no mention of 9-11 Pentagon evidence again, none do. >>>] The warehouse housed a construction and recycling company.
Asked if there are any worries about the person of interest setting another fire, the chief answered this way: “We’re not concerned at this point about the person of interest doing anything else.” (Why are they not worried about him doing anything else? To me that says that he did do something, and it was mission accomplished.)
A man told the Washington Times he saw a drone flying over the warehouse as it burned, and he took photos of it.
“We don’t know anything else about the drone that was allegedly seen flying over the fire,” Thiel said when asked about it....'
'Mystery drone seen hovering over Virginia warehouse fire':
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/3/drone-seen-hovering-ov er-virginia-warehouse-fire/