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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Peter Power 'exercise' by arms firm consultant Reed Elsevier Reply with quote

Iam new here so excuse me if this has been asked before.
Peter Power on ITN news stated that he had been comissioned to carry out an exercise senario of suicide bombers blowing up the same trains, at the same time, and the same place that it actually happened.

He says that of course he cannot name who asked him to do this "exercise".

Now its pretty obvious that whoever commissioned the "exercise" commissioned the actual act, you havnt got to be Sherlock Holmes to work that out, so, how come niether the Metropolitan Police, the media, or members of parliament in the House of Commons havnt demanded to know who commission Visor Consulting for this event?

Or have they and nobodies told me?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the client has ever been named - Peter Power certainly would not divulge that. But you can go by what their website says:

Visor Consultants have been able to support many domestic and global organisations to prevent chaos in a crisis and increase their overall resilience. Our clients include one of the top seven companies in the USA and key Departments of the UK Government.

http://www.visorconsultants.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: I'll give you a clue. Reply with quote

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Now its pretty obvious that whoever commissioned the "exercise" commissioned the actual act, you havnt got to be Sherlock Holmes to work that out, so, how come niether the Metropolitan Police, the media, or members of parliament in the House of Commons havnt demanded to know who commission Visor Consulting for this event?



OK, ill give you a clue Wink

In either March or May 2002, Rudolph Guliani, set up a company who specialise in security operations for companies who might be 'vulnerable to terrorist attack'.

Where was Julie when the Bombs went off ?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: I'll give you a clue. Reply with quote

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Now its pretty obvious that whoever commissioned the "exercise" commissioned the actual act, you havnt got to be Sherlock Holmes to work that out, so, how come niether the Metropolitan Police, the media, or members of parliament in the House of Commons havnt demanded to know who commission Visor Consulting for this event?



OK, ill give you a clue Wink

In either March or May 2002, Rudolph Guliani, set up a company who specialise in security operations for companies who might be 'vulnerable to terrorist attack'.

" Gulyiani Securities"

Gulyiani securities indeed.

Where was Julie (KBE ) when the Bombs went off ?

But dont worry, because as Sir Ian Blair pointed out , in his address to London shortly afterwards;

" We are currently restoring "ORDER AMIDST THE CHAOS"

hmm order out of chaos,

Where have I heard that before ????

None of this is rocket science to anyone but the braindead.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Abandoned Edge, are you saying Guliani has something to do with Visor consultants or that it was he who commissioned the "Exercise"?

I note Peter Power says, "And we chose a scenario - with no assistance - which is based on a terrorist attack because they're very close to, er, a property occupied by Jewish businessmen there in the city, " and that it was a Jewish dignitary who was forewarned not to go out an hour before the bombs went off.

You are right that it isnt rocket science to anybody but the brain-dead, yet most of the people to whom I inform of this issue are quite clearly brain-dead, (too much East-enders and X-Factor), yet, whilst I can see that the Media is totally Zionist controlled, and the upper (and lower) ranks of the police are still Masonic, why has nobody in the Government noticed this and brought it to attention?.

Most of them are more interested in preserving thier careers for sure, but there are a small handfull who have moral fortitude such as Michael Meacher, George Galloway, Norman Baker who asked Tony Blair in the house if he was a Bilderberg, (theres guts for you), and maybe Claire Short.

If I bump into Mr Meacher I might mention this to him.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A transcript of the ITN interview:

POWER: Today we were running an exercise for a company - bearing in mind I'm now in the private sector - and we sat everybody down in the city - 1,000 people involved in the whole organization - but the crisis team. And the most peculiar thing was, we based our scenario on the simultaneous attacks on an underground and mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from 'fictiona'l to 'real'. And one of the first things is, get that bureau number, when you have a list of people missing, tell them. And it took a long time -

INTERVIEWER: Just to get this right, you were actually working today on an exercise that envisioned virtually this scenario?

POWER: Almost precisely. I was up to 2 oclock this morning, because it's our job, my own company. Visor Consultants, we specialise in helping people to get their crisis management response. How do you jump from slow time thinking to quick time doing? And we chose a scenario - with no assistance - which is based on a terrorist attack because they're very close to, er, a property occupied by Jewish businessmen there in the city, and there are more American banks in the city than there are in the whole of New York - a logical thing to do. And it, I've still got the hair....

So a number of things arise:
He says "an underground and mainline station" so the targets were not exactly the same.
He says nothing about the terrorist attacks being suicide bombers.
He says it was a company with over 1000 employees, so it was not a government department, nor Giuliani's company.

The assumption that the commissioning company carried out the attacks is quite illogical.

The original AP story was that Netanyahu was warned by Scotland Yard prior to the attacks, not that the warning came from Israel, but AP withdrew the story and Netanyahu denied he had been warned before the attacks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: Nope. Reply with quote

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Hi Abandoned Edge, are you saying Guliani has something to do with Visor consultants or that it was he who commissioned the "Exercise"?



If you read the original transcript carefully, you will notice that Peter power says

"and we were conducting this exercise on behalf of a company, and they know who they are and they will be listening to this"

Or words to that effect.

Now go do a search on Rudolph Gulyiani's ( KBE) "Gulyiani securities".

Have a look at what they do for a living, and then "speculate"
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Bushwacker. Reply with quote

Bushwacker,

With respect, that is NOT a transcript of the interview that Power did on Radio 5 live, at around 7.30 pm, on the day of the attacks. The first of a series he did I believe.

Here is that Transcript ;


POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.

http://www.infowars.net/~officia/77/drills/090705prisonplanetterrorexe rcise.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Bushwacker. Reply with quote

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Bushwacker,

With respect, that is NOT a transcript of the interview that Power did on Radio 5 live, at around 7.30 pm, on the day of the attacks. The first of a series he did I believe.

With equal respect, Abandoned Ego, that is why I said it was a transcript of his ITN interview, which was the interview referred to by the thread-starter, Nambo.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke to Mr Meacher to ask him why neither the Met, the media or the house of Commons hadnt demanded to know the clients behind this exercise and was surprised to hear that he was unaware of the Peter Power "exercise"at all, I guess polititions are too busy to know half of whats really going on in the world.
He immeadiatly brought up the "exercises" that took place at 911 saying this is what they do.
He also said that whilst this definately warrents looking into, conspiracy theorists are automatically looked upon as being crazy.
He then asked me if I could provide contact details for Mr Power, I forwarded the links to the Radio and TV interview and also Visors website.

I told him my opion on the Peter Power revelation that I couldnt belive a high ranking met anti-terrorist officer was too dim to put 2 and 2 together and come up with the same conclusion we have, or fail to realise the effect such an admission would have on the thinking public so can only guess that Mr Power wanted to pre-empt any possible whistle blowing from one of the "thousand" participants and to make himself look an innocent by admitting such a thing on national TV.

Iam hoping to hear back from Mr Meacher but have been told by colleages that he has become something of an object of ridicle by the other MPs due to his standing up for truth, this is to be expected I guess, they will try and destroy anybodies carreer who trys to reveal them.

All credit to the guts and moral fortitude of Mr Meacher.
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When did you speak to Meacher Nambo? Is he your MP? That would be useful!

A handful of us met him recently and he was a bit evasive about becoming more involved with our campaign but it would be good to be able to keep the lines of communication open.

Also everything might change if we could arrange some moral support for him in the form of a few more converts to the truth in Parliament.

We should all be working on our MPs as a matter of course - send them Loose Change 2 (6,000,000 downloads - most googled film on the Internet in summer 2006!) and tell them the UK 9/11 Truth movement is really taking off now, new groups are starting all over the country, also in many other countries. If the MP is Labour you can mention Hugo Chavez is thinking to set up a new international inquiry into 9/11 and enlisting support for this from other Latin American leaders. So when are British MPs going to begin to take this issue seriously? Etc.

Politicians are very sensitive to popular trends, they have to be since their power comes (or used to come!) from the people.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bushwacker wrote:
A transcript of the ITN interview:

POWER: Today we were running an exercise for a company - bearing in mind I'm now in the private sector - and we sat everybody down in the city - 1,000 people involved in the whole organization - but the crisis team. And the most peculiar thing was, we based our scenario on the simultaneous attacks on an underground and mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from 'fictiona'l to 'real'. And one of the first things is, get that bureau number, when you have a list of people missing, tell them. And it took a long time -

INTERVIEWER: Just to get this right, you were actually working today on an exercise that envisioned virtually this scenario?

POWER: Almost precisely. I was up to 2 oclock this morning, because it's our job, my own company. Visor Consultants, we specialise in helping people to get their crisis management response. How do you jump from slow time thinking to quick time doing? And we chose a scenario - with no assistance - which is based on a terrorist attack because they're very close to, er, a property occupied by Jewish businessmen there in the city, and there are more American banks in the city than there are in the whole of New York - a logical thing to do. And it, I've still got the hair....


Im certain this transcript is wonky, its "1000 involved in the whole operation.."

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So a number of things arise:
He says "an underground and mainline station" so the targets were not exactly the same.


Yeah, that's covered by "almost exactly"

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He says nothing about the terrorist attacks being suicide bombers.


Its a sensible inference though: anything more complex than suicide bombing requires higher sophistication

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He says it was a company with over 1000 employees, so it was not a government department, nor Giuliani's company.
Only if your transcript is accurate: otherwise both are well in the frame

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The assumption that the commissioning company carried out the attacks is quite illogical.


Intelligence service ops are: stops things coming to light too easily through "rational deduction": the "who would believe it?" cover story. Very effective it is too

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The original AP story was that Netanyahu was warned by Scotland Yard prior to the attacks, not that the warning came from Israel, but AP withdrew the story and Netanyahu denied he had been warned before the attacks.


Thats how cover up's go!

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I suppose everybody does realise this was a "paper" exercise, those involved were all sitting in a room in the City, no one was on the ground?

What purpose could be served by employees of "a company" doing this?

What purpose could be served by Power revealing it?

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He says it was a company with over 1000 employees, so it was not a government department, nor Giuliani's company.
Only if your transcript is accurate: otherwise both are well in the frame.

Compare the ITN transcript with the Radio 5 one, he says the same thing in both.

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The assumption that the commissioning company carried out the attacks is quite illogical.


Intelligence service ops are: stops things coming to light too easily through "rational deduction": the "who would believe it?" cover story. Very effective it is too.

So counter-intelligence should work on illogical assumptions? - I don't think so!

John White wrote:

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The original AP story was that Netanyahu was warned by Scotland Yard prior to the attacks, not that the warning came from Israel, but AP withdrew the story and Netanyahu denied he had been warned before the attacks.


Thats how cover up's go!

And inaccurate news reports

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I suppose everybody does realise this was a "paper" exercise, those involved were all sitting in a room in the City, no one was on the ground?

What purpose could be served by employees of "a company" doing this?

What purpose could be served by Power revealing it?


Can you at least try to study how False flag ops work?

The exercise creates confusion and diversion to ensure no effective response until the event has occured

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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2001897549763616199&q=mind+ the+gap

I went and checked the organisation/operation Q and I'll give Bushkiller credit, his transcript is correct, my bad: still its also pretty clear that it was a joint operation involving crisis managment from several authorities, including London underground. From 11:00 to 13:00

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When did you speak to Meacher Nambo? Is he your MP? That would be useful!

A handful of us met him recently and he was a bit evasive about becoming more involved with our campaign but it would be good to be able to keep the lines of communication open.

Also everything might change if we could arrange some moral support for him in the form of a few more converts to the truth in Parliament.

We should all be working on our MPs as a matter of course - send them Loose Change 2 (6,000,000 downloads - most googled film on the Internet in summer 2006!) and tell them the UK 9/11 Truth movement is really taking off now, new groups are starting all over the country, also in many other countries. If the MP is Labour you can mention Hugo Chavez is thinking to set up a new international inquiry into 9/11 and enlisting support for this from other Latin American leaders. So when are British MPs going to begin to take this issue seriously? Etc.

Politicians are very sensitive to popular trends, they have to be since their power comes (or used to come!) from the people.


Hi Belinda, I spoke to Mr Meacher on Monday I think it was, no he,s not my MP, I havnt had an e-mail reply, (probably best), will have to wait untill I bump into him again to ensure he recieved and looked at said links.

He certainly needs moral support from other MPs, to consider he used to be a cabinet minister, but by all means try, but dont hold out much hope for many MPs being willing to stick thier necks out, for most of them its a career, one that they are unwilling to jepadise, especailly all these young ones they seem to like these days, probably because its easier for the whips to make them tow the party line.

There are a few exceptions, MPs with guts and morals such as Robin Cook who revealed to the house that Al Quida was a data-base of CIA operatives and gave a stirring talk as to why we shouldnt go to war. He was dead a couple of weeks later, though I havnt seen any clues that they did a Dr Kelly on him.

Clare Short, but she,s not standing at the next election.

George Galloway, rarely seen these days.

Iam not surprised Mr Meacher was a bit evasive about becoming more involved, Iam surprised and have admiration for what he has done as it surely would lead to political suicide.

I think the best stratergy is when the next election comes along and they ask for your vote, tell them why you wont be voting for them, thats where it hurts them.
Or maybe as more people wake up and the Truth movement becomes bigger, have a mass lobby of MPs at the Houses of Parliament, might even make the media.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bushwacker wrote:
I suppose everybody does realise this was a "paper" exercise, those involved were all sitting in a room in the City, no one was on the ground?

What purpose could be served by employees of "a company" doing this?

What purpose could be served by Power revealing it?


Can you at least try to study how False flag ops work?

The exercise creates confusion and diversion to ensure no effective response until the event has occured

Happy to help

And what confusion and diversion was caused by some company employees sitting in a room working out how their company would react to a terrorist attack on the transport system?

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John White wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2001897549763616199&q=mind+ the+gap

I went and checked the organisation/operation Q and I'll give Bushkiller credit, his transcript is correct, my bad: still its also pretty clear that it was a joint operation involving crisis managment from several authorities, including London underground. From 11:00 to 13:00

No, the only thing clear is that it was a private sector company employing over 1000 people located near premises occupied by some Jewish businessmen.

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Bushwacker wrote:
I suppose everybody does realise this was a "paper" exercise, those involved were all sitting in a room in the City, no one was on the ground?

What purpose could be served by employees of "a company" doing this?

What purpose could be served by Power revealing it?


Can you at least try to study how False flag ops work?

The exercise creates confusion and diversion to ensure no effective response until the event has occured

Happy to help

And what confusion and diversion was caused by some company employees sitting in a room working out how their company would react to a terrorist attack on the transport system?


No this doesnt stand up. If this was a pure training exercise, how could it switch from "slow time to quick time thinking". How could it decide "this is real"?

What would be the point if the exercise wasnt in the position to affect anything?

And the delay, plus a system primed to expect "exercise responses", is the confusion I was referencing

Seems straight forward enough, yes?

It's hardly the fault of the truth seeking community if further details of what Powers was flapping his gob about have been locked up tight and kept from the public: and why?

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John White wrote:
Bushwacker wrote:
John White wrote:
Bushwacker wrote:
I suppose everybody does realise this was a "paper" exercise, those involved were all sitting in a room in the City, no one was on the ground?

What purpose could be served by employees of "a company" doing this?

What purpose could be served by Power revealing it?


Can you at least try to study how False flag ops work?

The exercise creates confusion and diversion to ensure no effective response until the event has occured

Happy to help

And what confusion and diversion was caused by some company employees sitting in a room working out how their company would react to a terrorist attack on the transport system?


No this doesnt stand up. If this was a pure training exercise, how could it switch from "slow time to quick time thinking". How could it decide "this is real"?

What would be the point if the exercise wasnt in the position to affect anything?

And the delay, plus a system primed to expect "exercise responses", is the confusion I was referencing

Seems straight forward enough, yes?

It's hardly the fault of the truth seeking community if further details of what Powers was flapping his gob about have been locked up tight and kept from the public: and why?

It is really not very difficult. Visor is a company that offers training to compnies and organisations on their responses to disaster, so there they were with a lot of managers from their client company running them through what their responses should be to a hypothetical terrorist incident, discussing the alternatives and getting them to come up with the best response, the "slow-time" thinking. In the midst of this, they hear the news that a real terrorist incident has happened, so they switch to actually advising them what to do in this real world situation, the "quick time" thinking.

Of course the original exercise was not in a position to affect anything, and no system would be primed to expect an "exercise response". This was a training exercise to get managers to plan what they would do, not to do it. The plan would be to decide which staff were vital to the operation, how they would be got in, what emergency transport arrangements should be made, if accomodation needed to be booked, where vital staff could be moved to if their offices become unusable, how communications could then be set up, that sort of thing. No one would actually be implementing any of that, there would be absolutely no point.

Why should Powers' client want to keep a low profile, you ask. Just because the "truth-seeking" community would make their lives miserable if they found out who they were. Powers went on to the media, no doubt hoping for some worthwhile publicity and got swamped with "truth-seekers" accusing him of prior knowledge and all sorts of evil. His clients would have nothing to gain by it.

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....it is very straightforward in the real world, feel free to join!

Ploughing through your plethora of posts since joining this forum (316 posts in 9 weeks!), it is evident that your simplistic view of the real world requires the suspension of objective curiosity.

At an average of over 5 posts per day, you either have far too much time on your hands or are receiving financial compensation for your pathetic efforts to engage in discussion that has been explored ad nauseum with Rachel North, on both this and the Alex Cox forum.

Your posts demonstrate that you either reside in a child-like psychological realm, where everything is exactly as presented by those nice men and ladies on TV and by those who prostitute themselves in the newspapers ... or you are one of an ever increasing number who are beginning to realise that the veil is falling and are fighting a state-sponsored rearguard action.

Seen the results of the US mid-terms? The game's up buddy.

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Bushwacker wrote:
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....it is very straightforward in the real world, feel free to join!

Ploughing through your plethora of posts since joining this forum (316 posts in 9 weeks!), it is evident that your simplistic view of the real world requires the suspension of objective curiosity.

At an average of over 5 posts per day, you either have far too much time on your hands or are receiving financial compensation for your pathetic efforts to engage in discussion that has been explored ad nauseum with Rachel North, on both this and the Alex Cox forum.

Your posts demonstrate that you either reside in a child-like psychological realm, where everything is exactly as presented by those nice men and ladies on TV and by those who prostitute themselves in the newspapers ... or you are one of an ever increasing number who are beginning to realise that the veil is falling and are fighting a state-sponsored rearguard action.

Seen the results of the US mid-terms? The game's up buddy.

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What is the point in your posting if you have nothing of value to contribute, other than your childhood fear of bogeymen?

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What is the point in your posting if you have nothing of value to contribute ....

...& the value of your contribution is what exactly? Guess I must have touched a nerve!

As for Visor Consultants, I originally posted the following last February but it still holds good today and I only regurgitate the post to make the point that those who seek the truth, do not profess to have the answers but are showing a far greater degree of intellectual & judicial curiosity than BWKR appears capable of comprehending:

....I have seen, read or heard nothing which serves to convince me that Peter Power and Visor Consultants were innocent bystanders! I am not for one moment suggesting that Peter Power was a witting or willing accessory but he did state that Visor Consultants had been engaged by a third party, saying, "......I won't mention their name ... but they'll know if they're listening...".

The Channel 4 attempt at 'debunking' was singularly unconvincing ........ but if Peter Power and the other senior players from Visor Consultants have nothing to hide, they shouldn't have any problem answering a few questions ... under oath!

How about the following questions:

1). What was the name of the Company / organization that contracted Visor Consultants to conduct the ‘Terror Exercises’ on Thursday July 7th 2005?

2). What are the names of the individuals who established the contract with Visor Consultants and what is their relationship with the British (or any other national) Government?

3). What was the full nature of the briefing given to Visor Consultants; and when was it given to them?

4). What is the relationship of Peter Power, or any other member of Visor Consultants, with the British (or any other national) Security Services?

5). With whom was the planning of the July 7th ‘Terror Exercise’ shared?

...... & that's just for starters!

Just because Channel 4 made a feeble attempt to take Peter Power out of the loop, I'm sure that even BWKR would acknowledge that we should not accept everything that is reported on the 'Tell-A-Vision' at face value?

What is fundamental to our interest and our continued focus on this subject, is The Truth!

One of the most significant common denominators amongst the majority of www.nineeleven.co.uk forum members is a high level of intellectual curiosity. Curiosity which has been stimulated by the overt US Administration complicity in the events of 9/11. Events that were the catalyst for the genocidal geopolitical agenda now being pursued by the US government; with TB single-handedly manipulating the UK government into playing a supporting role.

As even the delightful Rachel North has deigned to acknowledge:
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There will always be those who tell us not to ask questions, of ourselves or each other. Who say they, and only they, speak the truth, the only truth.

The good news is that the number of people who are seeing through the Neocon smoke and mirrors is increasing on an exponential basis. It is one way traffic. Anyone looking at the physical evidence of both 9/11 and 7/7, with any degree of objectivity, can see for themselves that the available evidence does not support the official accounts.

FFS, you'll be telling us next that the evidence supports the claim that David Kelly committed suicide! But let's not get off topic.

BWKR, you are most welcome if your presence is indicative of your desire to participate in the Quest for Truth. However, after 300+ posts in nine weeks, perhaps it would be appropriate for you to return to the financial slavery, of the Blue Pill Matrix, in your straightforward, real world

Al K Myst

The questions quoted above were taken from the DVD The 9/11 - 7/7 Connection available via the following link:
www.spiritualalchemy.com/product_info.php?products_id=6795
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Exercise Reply with quote

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....I have seen, read or heard nothing which serves to convince me that Peter Power and Visor Consultants were innocent bystanders!

So in conspiracy world it is up to them to prove their innocence, is it? That is just another way it differs from the real world. Let us turn it into real world terms: Is there any evidence at all against Peter Power, Visor Consultants or their clients?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Exercise Reply with quote

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alkmyst wrote:

....I have seen, read or heard nothing which serves to convince me that Peter Power and Visor Consultants were innocent bystanders!

So in conspiracy world it is up to them to prove their innocence, is it? That is just another way it differs from the real world. Let us turn it into real world terms: Is there any evidence at all against Peter Power, Visor Consultants or their clients?


Yes - their admitted behaviour at the time requires them to be called into question - What they knew, who gave them their orders, what was meant by slowtime to quicktime thinking. The evidence all comes out of Powers' mouth and he needs to be publicly accountable for it
After all we have four people convicted for crimes that they are nowhere evidentially accountable for. No court would convict them on the evidence so far made public
They are guilty by assertion only

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: Paper Exercise Reply with quote

dh wrote:
Bushwacker wrote:
alkmyst wrote:

....I have seen, read or heard nothing which serves to convince me that Peter Power and Visor Consultants were innocent bystanders!

So in conspiracy world it is up to them to prove their innocence, is it? That is just another way it differs from the real world. Let us turn it into real world terms: Is there any evidence at all against Peter Power, Visor Consultants or their clients?


Yes - their admitted behaviour at the time requires them to be called into question - What they knew, who gave them their orders, what was meant by slowtime to quicktime thinking. The evidence all comes out of Powers' mouth and he needs to be publicly accountable for it
After all we have four people convicted for crimes that they are nowhere evidentially accountable for. No court would convict them on the evidence so far made public
They are guilty by assertion only

No, sorry, no evidence there. Powers has given perfectly reasonable explanations for everything he was doing and what he said.

Who are these four people you believe have been convicted?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

There is no 'evidence' against Peter Power or Visor consultants which suggests they were doing anything more than a training exercise. However, to those who are under the impression that this was simply an exercise on paper, please be aware that this is actually not the case.

Peter Power revealed on July 8th that Visor were also running 'mock broadcasts' on the 7th, simulating those that would be used in the event of a terrorist attack. Mr. Power stated that these broadcasts had been so realistic that they confused people when the genuine reports started coming through.
Curiously, this information was only made available in a small item by a local newspaper in the North West of England.

For a closer look at Peter Power, Visor & mock broadcasts, please see our article here.

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