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Whitehall_Bin_Men Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject: U-turn leaves Guantanamo Bay 9/11 trials in disarray |
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No one ever likely be convicted for 9/11 attacks
Saturday 12 January 2013
The Guantanamo Bay trials are in such disarray that nobody may ever be convicted of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, it emerged today. The US military base's chief prosecutor, Brigadier General Mark Martins, announced this week that he had asked the Pentagon to drop conspiracy charges against the five men awaiting trial for their part in the 2001 atrocity. The U-turn comes in the wake of an appeal court overturning one existing conviction and looking set to do so for another. Speaking to The Independent, defence lawyers insisted the prosecution was refusing to admit the severity of the move, which they say could fatally undermine the case against five men accused of orchestrating the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon –as well as weakening all previous convictions. "It is a much bigger deal than they are making it out to be," said Cheryl Bormann,a lawyer for defendant Walid bin Attash. "It is going to make their case far more difficult to prove." She added that demonstrating intent to murder was far more challenging than proving conspiracy. Along with lawyers for Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi and Ammar al-Baluchi, Ms Bormann insisted that it would make it harder to convict those accused of supporting roles. Bin Attash is suspected of selecting and training several of the hijackers. Along with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Ramzi bin al-Shibh, al-Hawsawi and al-Baluchi, he is accused of conspiring to carry out and of executing the 9/11 attacks. Al-Hawsawi's attorney, Commander Walter Ruiz, said: "The withdrawal of the conspiracy charge essentially removes the heart of the body of charges currently pending" against his client. Ms Bormann added: "The prosecutor has been forced to recognise the cases they are challenging are unravelling. I would urge General Martins not to wait until the cases go to the appellate court but actually do his job as prosecutor and dismiss these charges now, as well as recognise the Military Commissions system in its entirety is unfair." Of the 779 men originally incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay, just seven have been found guilty of crimes. Today 166 detainees are still being held at the military base on the island of Cuba, with many, such as the last British inmate, Shaker Aamer, cleared for release. In October last year the US Court of Appeals threw out the conviction of Salim Hamdan, who was accused of being Osama bin Laden's driver, citing that providing material support was not a war crime under international rule of law. After submitting his recommendation to withdraw the conspiracy count, Brigadier General Martins said it would leave a "clear path forward", removing a potential legal challenge. He added: "The remaining charges are well-established violations of the law of war and among the gravest forms of crime recognised by all civilised peoples. This action helps ensure the prosecution proceeds undeterred by legal challenge." But defence lawyers said it would leave a hole in the prosecution's case and make it harder to try people who were not linked specifically to the attack. The Military Commissions system –set up to try non-Americans suspected of involvement in 9/11 –has already been accused by human rights experts of being illegal and failing to provide basic legal rights to the defendants. Lawyers have complained about the lack of disclosure from the prosecution, say client confidentiality rights are being breached and that funding for investigators or expert witnesses is not forthcoming.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/uturn-leaves-guantanamo-bay -911-trials-in-disarray-8448768.html _________________ --
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing." |
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Whitehall_Bin_Men Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Audio feed cuts out during 9/11 trial hearing, prompting suspicions of external censorship
http://t.co/og3GkYxm _________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com
Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing." |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Unbelievable Tony is those clinging to an alternative reality as though nothing is happening _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Ex Gitmo guard written book, to be published this summer:
‘Don’t Interact, Don’t Talk, They Are Not Humans’ - Gitmo Guard's Basic Orders
By RT
May 22, 2013 "Information Clearing House" -"RT" - One of the methods used to extract information from Muslim inmates in Guantanamo was to apply sexual interrogation techniques, Terry Holdbrooks, former guard at the camp has told RT.
Such a degradation methods, the former US soldier said, were used on innocent men. Holdbrooks, who wrote a book about GITMO prisoners, claims that it is the inmates’ religious perseverance in the face of pain and humiliation made him convinced that US was not fighting for the right cause.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35045.htm?utm_source=I CH%3A+British+%27Soldier+Beheaded%27+in+London&utm_campaign=FIRST&utm_ medium=email _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an AVAAZ petition you all will sign, re closing Gitmo, I hope:
http://www.avaaz.org/en/obama_shut_down_gitmo_4/?bxuqJab&v=25072 _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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