scienceplease 2
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I think Mr Lane could have leverage social media a little bit more... This is the first I've heard about him standing or the political party... He should at least put a message up on the boards here... Has he a website? This was some of the local coverage...
http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/m-conspiracy-theorist-insists-foun der-Inside-Job/story-17469010-detail/story.html
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"I'm not a conspiracy theorist," insists founder of political party Nine Eleven was an Inside Job
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Friday, November 30, 2012
THE founder of a political party based around the belief that the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US were an "inside job" insists he is not a conspiracy theorist.
Simon Lane received 66 votes when he stood for for nine eleven is an inside job in Thursday's Croydon North by-election. He set up the party in October because he is convinced the official story about the 2001 suicide attacks which killed 2,996 people "needs further investigation".
"Many people have formed the view that the story we have been told about the events is far from adequate," he told the Advertiser.
"Specifically that the twin towers, and in particular the building referred to as 'building 7', the third building to collapse that day, could not have fallen that way without some kind of 'inside' involvement.
"Given that none of the UK political parties to date have represented this view, I decided to form nine eleven was an inside job to do so."
Despite his controversial beliefs, Lane insists he should not be called a conspiracy theorist. He cites the party's constitution which rules out taking a position on the criminality involved, including "any specific deception, collusion or any other details that may or may not have contributed to these events".
"We believe everyone should be considered innocent until proven guilty in a fair trial," added Lane.
"As such we are not, by definition, conspiracy theorists."
The Oxford Concise Dictionary defines a conspiracy theory as "a belief that some covert but influential organisation is responsible for an unexplained event", which sounds a lot like Lane's views on the attacks. Type 'building 7' into Google and the second result is "conspiracy theory".
It may be eleven years since the attacks but the conspiracy theories remain. Among the most prominent are that US Vice President Dick Cheney ordered the military not to intercept the planes, that the Twin Towers were collapsed by controlled detonations and that the Pentagon was hit by a missile, not American Airlines Flight 77. Each has seemingly been disproved in official reports but the claims have endured.
"There is only one conspiracy theory I talk about," said Lane , "and that is the official one which I describe in my campaign leaflet as being 'rather absurd'.
"I imagine that some people associate the questioning of the 'official' story of nine eleven with tales of bizarre-seeming conspiracies and that, seeing the name of the party, are expecting the same from us.
"However, we have deliberately tried to avoid such conjecture as to who may have done what, whether that be individuals acting alone or as part of or as part of a conspiracy.
"Consequently, the label 'conspiracy theorist' cannot be applied to anyone representing nine eleven was an inside job."
Thursday's by-election was Lane's first involvement in mainstream politics. Previously he was an entrepreneur and claims to have introduced cycle rickshaws, known as pedicabs, to the West End in 1998. For most of the last decade he has been working in computer security.
The story behind how he came to decide that September 11 was an "inside job" sounds almost as mysterious as the theory itself.
He explained: "Like most people, I expect, I did not question the official story for many years.
"In 2008, while living in Japan, I found myself in the company of two quite different people, one an English teacher from Wales, the other a Vietnam War veteran from the United States, who were talking to each other with much agreement about how the collapse of the various buildings could not have happened as presented."
Lane decided to investigate further (at first he found it "somewhat far-fetched") but said he started to be convinced after watching the documentary series Loose Change, a series of four films which argue the attacks were planned and conducted by elements within the US government. More than one million copies of the DVD have been sold and many more millions have watched it online.
After further research Lane decided the British electorate needed to hear the truth and so he waited for news of a by-election.
"I had originally considered running in the Corby but the timing was too tight." said Lane.
"Then I learned there was to be a by-election in Croydon North so I moved here to contest it.
"By-elections are ideal occasions to launch new political parties because the electorate realise they are not going to change the government, however they vote.
"They are less likely to feel the need to vote tactically and so they have the opportunity to vote for whatever representation they would actually prefer to have in Parliament."
Lane said that most of the people who didn't simply close the door in his face also had concerns about what happened that day. Not all his visits were welcome, however. A reporter at the Advertiser recalls Lane knocking at the door looking for the final few signatures he required at 11pm the evening before nominations had to be finalised
Interestingly, his party's founding principle barely featured in his campaign literature (save for the name, which he prefers to be written in lower case). "With limited space available I decided to focus entirely on how I intended to represent the people of this constituency when elected," he said.
When asked why voters here would worry about whether there is something more to September 11, Lane takes a familiar line: no terrorist attacks, no war in Iraq or Afghanistan.
"Our defence spending is huge," he explains. "While millions are cut from the budgets affecting the lives of people in Croydon North, such as education, welfare and housing, billions are found to support the invasion of foreign countries.
"Talking to everyone in this constituency it seems that they feel it would have been better to avoid the cost, both financially and in human terms, and put those resources to better use for building our communities."
Croydon North, however, wasn't read for Lane's beliefs, at least not in the way he links them to the events of September 11.
With just 66 votes (0.3% of the 24,680 who voted) he lost his £500 deposit by some considerable distance. The lease on his flat in Thornton Heath ran out a few hours after the polls closed and now he plans to spend Christmas with his family in Colchester.
So have we seen the last of nine eleven was an inside job?
"Ideally we will be able to find suitable candidates to stand in any other by-elections, should they arise, and I may consider standing again myself," said Lane.
"We may also contest local and European elections too, but our main focus will be the lead-up to the general election in 2015 or, possibly, before."
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http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Croydon-North-Inside-Job-s-Simon-L ane-direct/story-17412435-detail/story.html
| Quote: | Croydon North: Nine Eleven was an Inside Job's Simon Lane on "direct democracy"
THE Advertiser's public debate ahead of the Croydon North by-election featured candidates from six of the main parties. Here Simon Lane, candidate for the Nine Eleven was an Inside Job party, answers the same questions submitted by our readers.
Richard Atkins from South Norwood asked: "What would each candidate do to continue Malcolm Wicks' legacy?"
Simon Lane said: "When he first became an MP in 1992 Malcolm Wicks said in his maiden speech in the House of Commons that he saw his challenge as being to "bridge the gap between the pomp and circumstance of parliament and the poverty and pain in many of our communities".
This is precisely what we stand for, connecting the people directly to the decision-making processes of Westminster.
In short we will set up a system whereby everyone on the electoral role in Croydon North will be able to directly engage in the democratic process in real time, using for example text messages, the Internet, sending in a postcard or visiting the constituency office to vote on anything you want me to do in my role as your member of Parliament.
Eileen Gale, Thornton Heath, and a number of other people asked: "What are your views on the proposed incinerator on the Croydon/Sutton border?"
SL: "On this issue I defer completely to the people of Croydon North. When elected I will set up a poll, as a priority, to gauge opinion in the constituency and act accordingly. Based on the views I have heard expressed thus far I would expect that many voters would like to express concerns over this. With my constituency office staff, we would collect the various opinions and present them on your behalf. My job with respect to this issue, and every other, will be to find out how voters feel and then act accordingly."
Steve Turner, of South Norwood, and Ryan Earle, from Thornton Heath, both asked: "What actions would you take to address high youth unemployment in Croydon North?"
SL: "I have real experience of creating jobs in London. I was the first to introduce cycle rickshaws, sometimes known as pedicabs, into the West End. I started doing this because I really enjoyed working as a pedicab rider myself, being self-employed, meeting people, keeping fit and having fun. At times there have been as many as one thousand pedicabs in London and I feel honoured to have been able to play my part in making this happen.
"That said, my main contribution to this and many other issues will most likely be to voice the concerns of many people I have met here who would rather avoid all the expensive military action we seem to so readily engage in abroad, freeing resources to spend at home. Billions have been spent, millions killed and little achieved. All these resources, both financial and human, could have been better deployed in this country, creating work and prosperity for all, especially young people.
Jonathan Cope, from South Norwood, asked: "What approach would you take to reducing crime in Croydon North?"
SL: "I see the answer to this question linking directly to the previous one. If we could reduce spending on things like foreign wars there would be a great deal more resources to help create wealth so people would be far less likely to engage in crime. Also, by encouraging people to engage in the community, taking part in the decision-making process, we would be able reduce the sense of disaffection which so often goes along with getting involved in criminal activity.
Liam Fretwell, from South Norwood asked: "What have you done, prior to this election, to help Croydon North and the people who live there?"
SL: "I recently moved to this constituency and have spent all my time here engaged in this election. That said I have already helped to create around one thousand jobs for people living all over London when I introduced the pedicabs to the West End in 1998."
Carole Horstead, of South Norwood, asked: "What will you do to address the shortage of school places in the north of the borough?
SL: "At the hustings event Carole Horstead explained that her main concern was a shortage of school places for disabled children. Clearly we all want to see more of our attention, financially and in general, ensuring that everyone gets the education they need, especially the disabled. By electing me the people of Croydon North will be able to ensure that we set our priorities as the people want, spending money improving people's lives rather than destroying them in senseless wars."
A number of audience members asked: "If you had control of the £23 million pledged to Croydon following last summer's riots, how would you spend the money?"
SL: "The real experts are the people who form the community itself. So let them put forward suggestions then let everyone in the constituency vote for which they want to see funded. It's the way I'll do everything - let the people decide."
Vipul Dudhaiy, of Norbury, asked: "What would the candidates do to improve Croydon's negative image problem?"
SL: "By opting for the kind of radical system of direct democracy I am proposing, Croydon North would be setting the trend, showing a way to do things better for the benefit of everyone in the constituency. This would give us the image of being cutting-edge; when everyone else decides to take this approach the whole world will know Croydon North was where it all started."
Anne Viney, of Norbury, asked: "If elected, what would you do to ensure young people growing up had a decent chance of owning a home in the area?"
SL: "There is so much damaged, derelict and sub-standard accommodation that could be improved to provide affordable housing for all those who need it. If the people had been making the decisions I am quite sure that we would have avoided getting involved in these senseless foreign wars. As your MP I will make sure that Parliament understands the priorities of the people who live in Croydon North, and it seems clear to me that these would include improving the homes of people here instead of bombing the homes of people abroad."
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Reference to his "controversial beliefs" - when is asking questions a controversy? I guess if you say "Is there a God?" that is courting controversy - not surely we have moved away from heretical beliefs? Saying... "OMG, I think Politicians are telling porkies" is MAINSTREAM.
"The story behind how he came to decide that September 11 was an "inside job" sounds almost as mysterious as the theory itself." He watched Loose Change and talked about it... hardly that mysterious!?
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scienceplease 2
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Simon Robert Lane wrote: | Hello.
The party has a website here: http://newaij.org
Sorry it is all so basic. However I ended up doing alone what, in most political parties, has large teams of people.
What was achieved was that the party was formed, the name was allowed, and I was able to stand.
On the way I encountered a number of people who, understandably perhaps but incorrectly, seemed to believe that this would be impossible to do. Some seemed afraid of getting involved, part of the reason I had to do nearly everything alone.
However, now we know it can be done I suggest we go door-to-door, recruit people into the party, raise enough money for deposits at least and hopefully leaflets too in every constituency and then contest the next general election.
Thank you all on this thread for your interest.
Kind regards,
Simon Robert Lane,
nine eleven was an inside job. |
Hi Simon,
Thanks for the post. And the affirmative action that you've taken. Can you describe your campaign, when did it start, how many people you've talked to, their reactions, what other internet sites do you visit, what support do you have etc?
My concern is that since the media won't touch 9/11 as a subject, then I'm worried how on earth the media will react to a political party with "nine eleven was an inside job" as its name!
Since, there's only a few regular posters to this forum, I'm kind of skeptical that you could get leaflets into every constituency before the next election...
Obviously, I very much wish you the best of success. The truth will set us free!
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