Pope resigns to make way for something worse?

[TonyGosling]

Vatican backlash over dossier rumours linking Church to 'gay network' and 'sex parties'
Italian media says dossier alleges clergy were 'united by sexual orientation'
Vatican has hit back at the 'false and damaging' media reports

By Daily Mail Reporter
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283190/Pope-resigns-Vatican-b acklash-dossier-rumours-linking-Church-gay-network-sex-parties.html
PUBLISHED: 03:10, 23 February 2013 | UPDATED: 11:38, 24 February 2013

The Vatican has rubbished Italian media reports alleging the pope's resignation is linked to a secret dossier claiming there is a 'gay network' inside the clergy.

Italian newspapers have been rife with unsourced reports claiming the secret dossier from three cardinals reveals an underground network of senior clergy who have organised gay homosexual parties and faced blackmail.

La Repubblica newspaper claims the explosive allegations were made in a report into the so-called 'Vatileaks' scandal which was presented to the Pontiff on or around December 17.

But the Vatican today accused Italian media of spreading 'false and damaging' reports in an attempt to influence cardinals who will meet in a secret conclave next month to elect a new pope.

The report came in two volumes, 'hard-bound in red' with the title 'pontifical secret' and was compiled by Spanish cardinal, Julián Herranz; Cardinal Salvatore De Giorgi, a former archbishop of Palermo; and the Slovak cardinal Jozef Tomko.

They launched the probe after the Pope's butler, Paolo Gabriele, was arrested and charged with stealing and leaking papal correspondence revealing how the Vatican was a centre of intrigue and infighting.

La Repubblica claimed Pope Benedict XVI quit because could not face the repercussions of dealing with the 300-page dossier - the first Pontiff to resign in 700 years.

The paper says that the investigation alleges a gay lobby exists within the Church, and has some sort of control on the careers of those in the Vatican.

The report is quoted as saying: 'The cardinals were said to have uncovered an underground gay network, whose members organise sexual meetings in several venues in Rome and Vatican City, leaving them prone to blackmail.

'They included a villa outside the Italian capital, a sauna in a Rome suburb, a beauty parlour in the centre, and a former university residence that was in use by a provincial Italian archbishop.'

La Repubblica says that the cardinals described a number of 'factions' in their report, including one in which individuals were 'united by sexual orientation'.

The newspaper also alleges the dossier states that members of this group were blackmailed by laymen with whom they entertain relationships of a 'worldly nature'

It quoted an unnamed source said to be close to the report's authors: 'Everything revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandments.'

The seventh commandment forbids theft, while the sixth forbids adultery, but is linked in Catholic doctrine to the proscribing of homosexual acts, explained the Guardian.

The dossier will stay in a secret papal safe and delivered to Benedict's successor when the Pope leaves office, claims La Repubblica.

The pope himself has said merely that he doesn't have the 'strength of mind and body' to carry on and would resign Feb. 28.

The Vatican claims the reports are an attempt to influence the election of the next pope.

The Vatican secretariat of state said the Catholic Church has for centuries insisted on the independence of its cardinals to freely elect their pope - a reference to episodes in the past when kings and emperors vetoed papal contenders or prevented cardinals from voting outright.

'If in the past, the so-called powers, i.e., States, exerted pressures on the election of the pope, today there is an attempt to do this through public opinion that is often based on judgments that do not typically capture the spiritual aspect of the moment that the church is living,' the statement said.

'It is deplorable that as we draw closer to the time of the beginning of the conclave ... that there be a widespread distribution of often unverified, unverifiable or completely false news stories that cause serious damage to persons and institutions.'

Some Vatican watchers have speculated that because the Vatican bureaucracy is heavily Italian, cardinals might be persuaded to elect a non-Italian, non-Vatican-based cardinal as pope to try to impose some reform on the Curia.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said the reports 'do not correspond to reality' but the pope and some of his closest collaborators have recently denounced the dysfunction in the Apostolic Palace.

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, for example, criticized the 'divisions, dissent, careerism, jealousies' that afflict the Vatican bureaucracy. He made the comments on Friday - the penultimate day of the Vatican's weeklong spiritual exercises that were attended by the pope and other officials.

Benedict too has made reference to the divisions in recent days, deploring in his final Mass as pope on Ash Wednesday how the church is often 'defiled' by attacks and divisions from within. Last Sunday, he urged its members to overcome 'pride and egoism'.

On Saturday, in his final comments to the Curia, Benedict lamented the 'evil, suffering and corruption' that have defaced God's creation. But he also thanked the Vatican bureaucrats for having helped him 'bear the burden' of his ministry with their work, love and faith these past eight years.

The Vatican's attack on the media echoed its response to previous scandals, where it has tended not to address the underlying content of accusations, but has diverted attention away.

During the 2010 explosion of sex abuse scandals, the Vatican accused the media of trying to attack the pope; during the 2012 leaks scandal, it accused the media of sensationalism without addressing the content of the leaked documents.

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Heard the one about the Cardinal & the Paedophile?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284533/UKs-Catholic-Cardinal- Keith-OBrien-long-standing-friend-Jimmy-Savile.html

The picture Cardinal Keith O'Brien probably wishes he had never posed for: UK's top Catholic was long-standing friend of Savile

Cardinal Keith O'Brien faces claims of inappropriate attention by four priests

One unnamed priest alleges 'unwanted behaviour' after late-night drinking

Another unnamed priest said he was 18 when 'inappropriately approached'
O'Brien, 74, steps down as Archbishop of St Andrew's and Edinburgh today
Will no longer travel to Rome to help elect successor to Pope Benedict XVI


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Front page of today's Mirror
But lots of people have had their picture taken with Savile who, I am becoming increasingly convinced, was deliberately protected as a poison bomb for Ulf future
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-cardinal-keith-obrie n-1731376

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"Pope Resigns To make way for something Worse" Maybe a prophetic thread title.

According to St Malachy prophecy the next pope may be the last--the anti christ?



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[TonyGosling]

Pope Benedict + Future Pope Walter Kasper
By Sara Johann
In 2005, when Joseph Ratzinger became pope, a key competitor was Cardinal Walter Kasper. Kasper is now Benedict's chosen successor, I believe. I say this because Pope Benedict DELIBERATELY timed his resignation so that Walter Kasper, who turned 80 a mere few days after Benedict's Feb. 28 resignation, would be eligible to vote in the Conclave. Cardinal Walter Kasper is the fellow I originally supported for Pope in 2005. Kasper has the connections with the other churches of the world as President Emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (and as demonstrated by these photos), and the knowledge, ability, and willingness to govern this Church through these difficult times. He has said, in recent days, that the Roman Curia needs major change. There is ONE area of major debate these two men presided over years ago in the church: Cardinal Ratzinger argued that the Universal Church (worldwide church) was prior to the local church. Cardinal Kasper argued that the local church(es) were prior to the Universal Church. Both of these learned theologians were wrong. Both the local church(es) and the Universal Church have existed for all time in as much as Our Lord Jesus Christ existed (as a member of the Trinity) with God for all time and in his existence exists the Church in all its aspects, both local and universal.