The video at the top of that page mentions a u.s intelligence officer claiming that 2 more devices have been found and dealt with by bomb disposal experts.
Is that part of the official story?
(I'm not sure why the witness uses the term amputee's. I'm not sure why the girl at 51 seconds is smiling.
Steve Silva is the guy that took the footage at the finish line. He has done some interviews.)
Updated April 26, 2013
- Officials now say Dzhokhar was un-armed when captured in boat.
- Question No. 1 - Are the Tsarnaev boys the Boston bombers?
- FBI says both bombs were in black backpacks; Dzhokhar's was white or silver.
- Dzhokhar Tsarnaev treated by Israeli doctors - transferred to federal prison
- Was brother Tamarlan taken into police custody on April 19?
- Aunt swears man taken alive and naked is her nephew Tamarlan
FBI/POLICE LIES UNRAVEL FURTHER
Officials now say that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was un-armed when the FBI and the army of police opened fire on the small boat in which he was apparently hiding. The police had originally reported that he had fired at them from under the tarp. Earlier, they had said that the Tsarnaev brothers had robbed a 7-11 store. It was even speculated that he had shot himself in the neck. All of these reports turned out to be false.
The FBI, which was in charge, must have known upon arresting Dzhokhar that he did not have a weapon. So, where did the report come from that he did? Who is writing the official lies that have been spread about the Tsarnaev brothers? Is this incompetence or is it part of the master plan to convict the Tsarnaevs in the court of public opinion without presenting any evidence? What other parts of the Boston story are lies?
If Dzhokhar was un-armed in the boat it raises the question, was he even involved in the shoot-out? Did he really run over his own brother and escape from a whole horde of police with weapons drawn? If he was in the shoot-out, what happened to his weapon? How did the police let him get away so easily? Was someone else playing the role of Dzhokhar and allowed to get away?.................
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:06 am Post subject:
This is a very good clip, and explains bundles about the 'odd' 'Baumer' in the wheelchair (who incidently doesn't look like the guy in another video in the hospital):
Amputee actors help make Boston Marathon Bombing Drill look real!:
The only problem is, surely, with all the internet and MSM pics of the guy in the wheel chair, surely someone must recognise him?
When the guy is on the ground, being completely ignored (except by the photographer!!), his 'sticking-out 'bone'' is perfectly white, no blood at all, yet in the wheelchair it is covered with 'dried blood'.
His clothes seem to be blood-free. And why on earth would they put him in a wheelchair, instead of putting him on a stretcher (or driving the ambulance to him)? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Do you remember that Tarpley chap Gareth Newnham used to devote his efforts to discrediting?
Gareth was banned from this forum for attacking Daniel Obachike too.
Brilliant overview of how all this fits into the war Bonesman Kerry is trying to get started in Iran
Gr8 mp3 show from super-incisive Webster G Tarpley: History of CIA, FBI with Chechnya rebel-patsy, Boston Bombing:
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/worldCrisisRadio/ _________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
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The only problem is, surely, with all the internet and MSM pics of the guy in the wheel chair, surely someone must recognise him?
Well somebody must have. Or the information was planted. Or somebody recognised him but is mistaken. I do know that somebody sent me the 'bauman is vogt' picture very quickly. Just checked, it was the 16th. I ignored it. Seemed ridiculous.
Regardless of who the guy is, the scene at the site of this 'bomb' is a total fabrication.
It really makes me wonder why.
Is this the new friendly face of false-flag terrorism? (no-one has to die)
Or is there a deep physcological reason that they are doing this?
What makes you think this is the 'Bauman' in question? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject:
Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
Gr8 mp3 show from super-incisive @WebsterGTarpley: History of #CIA, #FBI with Chechnya rebel-patsy, Boston Bombing:
http://t.co/sSRjfxr
'Someone' is so**ing about with your links: both don't work. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:04 am Post subject:
nrmis wrote:
outsider wrote:
The only problem is, surely, with all the internet and MSM pics of the guy in the wheel chair, surely someone must recognise him?
Well somebody must have. Or the information was planted. Or somebody recognised him but is mistaken. I do know that somebody sent me the 'bauman is vogt' picture very quickly. Just checked, it was the 16th. I ignored it. Seemed ridiculous.
Regardless of who the guy is, the scene at the site of this 'bomb' is a total fabrication.
It really makes me wonder why.
Is this the new friendly face of false-flag terrorism? (no-one has to die)
Or is there a deep physcological reason that they are doing this?
The information cannot be planted; that is their 'Narrative', the hideous picture.
If you check my other post, there is a dedicated Military project to use amputees in 'training sessions' (perfectly understandable & usefull in battlefield situations) to 'desensitize' personnel to the horror when they are faced with the real thing.
Couple of points: First pics of 'legless' man on ground; no one is taking the slightest interest in him, except the 'photographer', who manages to catch one of the best pics (second only, probably, to the guy in a wheelchair).
2. First pic of 'wheelchair' man on ground, 'sticking-out bone white, no blood; in wheelchair, suddenly 'bone' is totally covered in dried 'blood'.
Whole shebang stinks to high heaven; 'False Flag' op not so much 'springs to mind', but rather confirmed.
My overall impression is acclimatising US ciitizens to 'Martial Law', which Alex Jones and others have been trying to warn them against for more than a decade.
God bless America; Lucifer bless Amerika. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
When this concept of amputee actors was first floated I was repelled
But did have a look
I am becoming convinced
I imagine most intelligence officers in the western world who are not moronic, psychopaths or BBC / MSM current affairs producers are too
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU _________________ --
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
Just posting this from Fintan's site where he and most other wont accept any evidence of............. yet.
one member wrote:
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......you need to ask yourself why you feel drawn to the actors/ fakery thesis....more interesting ?
"Because there is lots of evidence that there was fakery going on and they are (should be) leads. These people now known to the public and all, involved in terrorism and via the MSM (which is terrorism if it was real or fake or even both.)
Following on, another good question IMHO to ask is what is the evidence of the "two" explosions, possibly and "coincidently" using the same type of explosives, as well as the near same place, time, etc.
So using Occam's razor was it, random chance, coincidence or planned. Patsies or accomplices involved in a planned inside job (if it was real or fake or even both.)
Thus the fakery shows at least some said to be victims as patsies or accomplices, most probably by very long odds to be involved in a planned inside job. Which should be investigated, but its not likely they will be.
Which IMHO is important and a crying shame for any possible real victims and the public (not so much interesting.)"
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Conversely, if people wont accept there wasn't any possibility of any fakery going on at all, then there is little to go on in investigating it, when the "authorities" have most probably all the leads (which lead to other leads) they need.
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject:
Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
When this concept of amputee actors was first floated I was repelled
But did have a look
I am becoming convinced
I imagine most intelligence officers in the western world who are not moronic, psychopaths or BBC / MSM current affairs producers are too
This is extremely interesting and convincing. It would be a great help in confirming the issue if some technically competant guy/gal could take screenshots of both wheelchair 'trips' at approx. same area, and put them both up next to each other. It appears that the first time, when they stop to 'adjust' 'leg', the wheel chair is considerably to the left (of screen) of second trip; but it would also be useful in identifying how many of the same people are standing around in each case (everyone there must have been aware something was being faked; you don't take the wheelchair & 'horribly injured' man back for another run for the cameras!). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
So to confuse matters there are people out there who won't go anywhere near the possibility of fakery (as that is the only lead,) with other people claiming it was all fake (with no possibility of real victims.) So emotional arguments flair up (where everyone can easily be ridiculed; as part of the op.) Meanwhile the MSM keep dripping out more cold trails that keep appearing to lead people up the garden path and they can keep running them as distractions or an eventual scapegoat distraction.
When the only real lead is the fakery part where patsies or accomplices in the terrorist event would lead straight to the planners (real or fake or both, in which the event was terrorism regardless.)
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject:
Maybe some one will track which hospital the guy went to. And if it is genuine the guy will be on talk shows when he recovers. FOI of insurance claims/payouts might also be revealing in a few months time. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
So to confuse matters there are people out there who won't go anywhere near the possibility of fakery (as that is the only lead,) with other people claiming it was all fake (with no possibility of real victims.) So emotional arguments flair up (where everyone can easily be ridiculed; as part of the op.) Meanwhile the MSM keep dripping out more cold trails that keep appearing to lead people up the garden path and they can keep running them as distractions or an eventual scapegoat distraction.
When the only real lead is the fakery part where patsies or accomplices in the terrorist event would lead straight to the planners (real or fake or both, in which the event was terrorism regardless.)
Exactly right IMHO.
I have put some hours in over the past 10 days I can tell you.
The scene at the site of the first 'bomb' is unquestionably FAKE.
Go and look at the pictures. Watch the video's. Listen to the interviews. It will dawn on you reasonably quickly.
Easier to use real bombs. Too many people involved. Someone would talk. etc etc.
I have no idea WHY this was done.
From infowars forum...
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Google's "Internet Archive" being scrubbed?
FYI to any researchers.
Don't bother trying to use the Internet Archive "Wayback Machine" to find April 15th or 16th cached copies of major news websites hoping to find early information and different photos of the crowds.
I looked up 15 major sites and every cached version stops ON or BEFORE the bombing date of April 15th. The four that actually DO have an April 15th cache the snapshot is only of the webpage BEFORE the bombing happened.
These are the sites I looked up last week:
Reuters.com - April 15 is archived but only before bombing
CNN.com - April 15 is archived but only before bombing
CBS.com - April 11
NBC.com - April 13
ABC.com - April 14
AP.com - April 14
AP.org - April 11
BostonGlobe.com - April 7
news.bbc.co.uk/ - April 11th
msnbc.com - April 11
Foxnews.com - April 11
guardian.co.uk/ - April 15 is listed but when I clicked it routed to 11th
newyorktimes.com - April 15 is archived but only before the bombing
independent.co.uk/ - April 15 is archived but only before the bombing
Exactly right IMHO.
I have put some hours in over the past 10 days I can tell you.
The scene at the site of the first 'bomb' is unquestionably FAKE.
Go and look at the pictures. Watch the video's. Listen to the interviews. It will dawn on you reasonably quickly.
Fintan came back not accepting any fakery, but made a decent point.but.
Quote:
Quote:
"there is lots of evidence that there was fakery going on..."
By now, it's boring.
There is no evidence.
Not a single unambiguous piece of evidence.
Just rubbish like:
"Somebody's got a scissors..."
"Somebody's sprinkling dust..."
"Blood's the wrong color..."
"Leg's should be bleeding..."
All either dubious photo interpretations or plain wrong.
To cap it all, scores were maimed, and the alleged
"actors" would have been just as likely to be killed....
Even that obvious problem doesn't axe the theory....
Nor does the fact that there's no plausible
reason why actors would have been used:
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Why bother?!? Very Happy
There's hundreds of potential innocent victims available.
Right there on the street. They're All around.
Thousands of unwitting extras.
Just waiting to be really blown up.
No need for fake blood - they've got the real thing
This is the king of dumbass, trailer trash conspiracy theories.
And we've had 'em all here on BFN.
This even beats 9/11 SPACEBEAMS!! (Sorry Dr. Judy Wood. You used to rule!)
This one WINS!
DumbAss #1
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"Leg's should be bleeding..."
Andrew wrote:
Well others and I think they should in those earlier photos, not from the MSM ones.
Quote:
To cap it all, scores were maimed, and the alleged
"actors" would have been just as likely to be killed....
Andrew wrote:
I'm not disagreeing with people genuinely being hurt and killed.
Quote:
Even that obvious problem doesn't axe the theory....
Andrew wrote:
Its not the theory is it.
Quote:
Nor does the fact that there's no plausible
reason why actors would have been used:
Andrew wrote:
To control the scapegoat info, such like Jeff Bauman Jr:
Andrew wrote: Quote news article:
In the days after the attack, Bauman’s memory of the man in the cap might have been the critical clue that led investigators to the Tsarnaev brothers – 19-year-old Dzhokhar and 26-year-old Tamerlan – who are suspected of mounting the twin bombings that killed three and wounded more than 170.
Andrew wrote:
And probably why there were two separate explosions (events.)
Already covered really in the Occam's razor false flag 101
top voted comment so far:- This was revenge for Borat all along.
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On this photo Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, two of three new suspects in the Boston Marathon stand with main Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. They are said to be Tsarnaev’s college friends and citizens of Kazakhstan. Both were arrested by immigration authorities earlier over visa violations. Sources claim they helped Tsarnaev and his brother remove objects from a campus dormitory after the terrorist attack - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/xu5c1h
(Photo from VKontakte page of Dias Kadyrbayev)
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject:
Photo in Daily mirror of a spectator dancer who lost her foot in the bombing.
Also
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Jeff Bauman Snr said on his Facebook page that his son had to have both lower limbs removed at Boston Medical Center because of extensive vascular and bone damage.
The famous photo seems to show that the bomb had already removed his lower limbs. Saying there was extensive vascular and bone damage is a bit of a nonsense looking at the photo.
seems its just a load of bs to keep us all guessing to what really happened
Did Saudis warn the US about Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s terror links?
Published time: May 01, 2013 17:41
http://rt.com/usa/saudi-boston-terror-tsarnaev-679/
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia warned the United States government about suspected Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev as recently as 2012, Saudi officials now say.
According to an exclusive report published by Britain’s Daily Mail on Tuesday, the Saudis sent the US Department of Homeland Security a “government-to-government” letter last year that specifically identified the older Tsarnaev brother and cautioned that he could be plotting an attack on American soil.
It “did name Tamerlan specifically,” the source — an unnamed Saudi official speaking on condition of anonymity — told Daily Mail. “It was very specific” and warned that “something was going to happen in a major US city.”
But only hours later, the Saudi Embassy in Washington, DC released a statement condemning the Daily Mail report as inaccurate, denying they warned US authorities about either Tsarnaev brother.
“The Saudi government had no prior information about the Boston bombers. Therefore, it is not true that any information, written or otherwise, was passed to the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) or any other US agency in this regard,” the statement claimed.
“The Saudi government also does not have any record of any application by Tamerlan Tsarnaev for any visa to Saudi Arabia.”
Russian intelligence previously confirmed that American law enforcement was alerted about both Tsarnaev and his mother in 2011 after red flags were raised in the Kremlin, but a subsequent Federal Bureau of Investigation probe concluded without US authorities convinced of a clear threat. On Tuesday, US President Barack Obama told reporters, "Based on what I can see so far, the FBI performed its duties. The Department of Homeland Security did what it was supposed to be doing," Obama said. "But this is hard stuff."
The DHS were aware of the 2012 bulletin, a Homeland Security official confirmed Tuesday night to the Daily Mail, although the agency declined to say they ever received such a warning from Saudi Arabia.
The intelligence relayed to the US in 2012 had nothing to do with the Russian reports from one year earlier, the source told Daily Mail, but was instead developed independently by officials working in Yemen.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed after a gun fight with police two weeks ago outside of Boston, Massachusetts that followed a days’ long manhunt across the region. His brother, 19-year-old Dzhokar Tsarnaev, is currently in federal custody and has been charged with using a weapon of mass destruction in conjunction with his alleged role in detonating explosives during the April 15 Boston Marathon, killing three and injuring over 260. He could face death penalty if convicted.
Saudi interest in the slain suspect dates back to as early as December 2011, the source told Daily Mail, when he was denied an entry visa while attempting to make a pilgrimage to Mecca. Authorities know Tamerlan Tsarnaev was in the Russian republic of Dagestan seven months later and fled to Moscow spontaneously on July 16 only to return to the US one day later. Investigators are now questioning whether the suspect’s travels that year had anything to do with an Islamic convert from Canada, William Plotnikov, who fought against Russian security forces in Dagestan and died in battle just three days before Tsarnaev left the country on a moment’s notice.
“It seems that Tamerlan Tsarnaev came to Dagestan with the aim of joining the insurgents,” a Russian security source told Novaya Gazeta this week.
On Wednesday, the Boston Police Department announced that three new suspects in their investigation have been taken into custody and they are expected to be arraigned later in the afternoon. Preliminary reports identified two of the suspects as Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev —Kazakhstan nationals who were colleagues of the younger Tsarnaev brother at University of Massachusetts Dartmouth. Tazhayakov and Kadyrbayev were reportedly taken into custody more than one week ago by US authorities for alleged immigration violations, but only now have been accused of a role in helping the alleged marathon bomber. Media sources reporting from Boston say the three suspects are likely to be charged with obstruction of justice because they allegedly helped Dzhokhar Tsarnaev dispose of backpacks containing fireworks. Police say the brothers bought fireworks for a US wholesaler that may have been used in the improvised explosive devices used during the Boston Marathon, or the others intended to be used days later in New York City. _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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His older brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev agreed...'
'Here is Dzhokhar Tsarnaev protesting “I never done it. They set me up” in his last Facebook post before he was shot by police, unarmed and trying to peacefully surrender, and then handed over to “Israeli doctors.”
Shades of Lee Harvey Oswald’s famous last words: “I’m just a patsy!”...' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:45 pm Post subject:
Struggling to find the 260 people injured in any of the photos--is that just US insurance claiment scam? _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Published on May 3, 2013
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Dr. Stan Monteith (Orthopedic Surgeon 40 some years), Radio Liberty stated tonight he had called the hospital where Jeff Bauman is supposed to have been in and they have never heard of him. He also stated that having been a surgeon, the picture of the guy in the wheelchair all over the internet is a fraud. The leg (stump) would never look like that picture, if he had been injured as stated.
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject:
Link _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Infowars exclusive: interviews with people adversely affected by heavy-handed 'Martial Law' type lockdown; houses and cars hit by bullets; people taken out of their houses, and when they were allowed to return found all their doors left open, anyone could have gone in and burgled them.
There is also a youngish, clean-cut guy who says younger brother ran over elder brother with SUV, trouble is we have all seen the elder brother being led naked to a police car, so the guy is apparently lying (part of the 'Official Narrative'). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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