View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
nrmis Validated Poster
Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 294
|
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:09 pm Post subject: West, Texas Fertiliser Plant Explosion kills 60-70 |
|
|
http://northhillshospital.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/this-is-only-a-dril l/
Quote: | This is only a drill…
April 16, 2013 in Main
Update on the drill .posted 4/18. Due to the events in West, Texas last night, North Hills Hospital and the NCTTRAC have chosen to cancel today’s emergency preparedness drill. Many of the same resources planned for the drill have already deployed to West to help care for the victims down there. |
fema type trucks set up in waco day before explosion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijMDXQFnnM0 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nrmis Validated Poster
Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 294
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 1702
|
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2013/04/18/before-the-blas t-west-fertilizers-monsanto-lawsuit/
Quote: | As details emerge about the Texas fertilizer plant that was the site of Wednesday’s fatal explosion and fire, a few tidbits can be gleaned from a 2007 lawsuit that the plant’s owners filed against agribusiness giant Monsanto Co.
The suit, filed as a potential class action in U.S. District Court for the western district of Texas, claimed that Monsanto had artificially inflated prices for its herbicide Roundup through anti-competitive actions. The suit did not relate to storing fertilizer, believed to be at the root of Wednesday’s blast.
The suit was filed by Texas Grain Storage Inc. The company now calls itself West Fertilizer Co.
In the suit, the company said that it was started in 1957 as a grain-storage business by the Plasek family in the town of West, Texas. It later built a small fertilizer-blend plant and started selling fertilizer to area farmers.
Zak Covar, executive director of the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, told a news conference Wednesday that the fertilizer storage and blending facility had been there since 1962.
In 1970 it started selling other agricultural products, including some from Monsanto, and by 1997 it had struck a deal with Monsanto to directly purchase Roundup each year.
A court filing in 2008 indicated that Texas Grain Storage recently had been sold. Emil Plasek is listed as a former owner.
Texas Grain Storage said it monitored the Roundup, stored in a stainless steel tank, through a telephone connected to the tank, the company said.
Many documents in the case are sealed, and the public documents don’t reveal the names of the plant’s then-current owners. Texas corporation records list the president of the company as Donald R. Adair, and show a business operating as Adair Grain Inc. at the same address.
Texas Grain Storage was represented by roughly 30 lawyers at 12 firms, according to court records. One lawyer who represented Texas Grain said the suit stalled in 2010 after a magistrate judge denied a request to certify the case as a class action. The lawyer said Texas Grain appealed the ruling, and that a district judge has yet to rule on the appeal. The last public filing in the case was in 2010.
Monsanto responded to Texas Grain’s complaint by saying the company didn’t have standing to bring the case and was barred by the statute of limitations. Thursday, a Monsanto spokesman said, “The long dormant lawsuit filed by Texas Grain had nothing to do with fertilizer or the operation of the West, Texas plant.” |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
TonyGosling Editor
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
|
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Texas fertilizer company didn't heed disclosure rules before blast
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100658042
Published: Saturday, 20 Apr 2013 | 2:32 AM ET
By: Joshua Schneyer, Ryan McNeill and Janet Roberts
NEW YORK, April 20 (Reuters) - The fertilizer plant that exploded on Wednesday, obliterating part of a small Texas town and killing at least 14 people, had last year been storing 1,350 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that would normally trigger safety oversight by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
Yet a person familiar with DHS operations said the company that owns the plant, West Fertilizer, did not tell the agency about the potentially explosive fertilizer as it is required to do, leaving one of the principal regulators of ammonium nitrate - which can also be used in bomb making - unaware of any danger there.
Fertilizer plants and depots must report to the DHS when they hold 400 lb (180 kg) or more of the substance. Filings this year with the Texas Department of State Health Services, which weren't shared with DHS, show the plant had 270 tons of it on hand last year.
A U.S. congressman and several safety experts called into question on Friday whether incomplete disclosure or regulatory gridlock may have contributed to the disaster.
"It seems this manufacturer was willfully off the grid," Rep. Bennie Thompson, (D-MS), ranking member of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said in a statement. "This facility was known to have chemicals well above the threshold amount to be regulated under the Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Act (CFATS), yet we understand that DHS did not even know the plant existed until it blew up."
Company officials did not return repeated calls seeking comment on its handling of chemicals and reporting practices. Late on Friday, plant owner Donald Adair released a general statement expressing sorrow over the incident but saying West Fertilizer would have little further comment while it cooperated with investigators to try to determine what happened.
"This tragedy will continue to hurt deeply for generations to come," Adair said in the statement.
Failure to report significant volumes of hazardous chemicals at a site can lead the DHS to fine or shut down fertilizer operations, a person familiar with the agency's monitoring regime said. Though the DHS has the authority to carry out spot inspections at facilities, it has a small budget for that and only a "small number" of field auditors, the person said.
Firms are responsible for self reporting the volumes of ammonium nitrate and other volatile chemicals they hold to the DHS, which then helps measure plant risks and devise security and safety plans based on them.
Since the agency never received any so-called top-screen report from West Fertilizer, the facility was not regulated or monitored by the DHS under its CFAT standards, largely designed to prevent sabotage of sites and to keep chemicals from falling into criminal hands.
The DHS focuses "specifically on enhancing security to reduce the risk of terrorism at certain high-risk chemical facilities," said agency spokesman Peter Boogaard. "The West Fertilizer Co. facility in West, Texas is not currently regulated under the CFATS program."
The West Fertilizer facility was subject to other reporting, permitting and safety programs, spread across at least seven state and federal agencies, a patchwork of regulation that critics say makes it difficult to ensure thorough oversight.
An expert in chemical safety standards said the two major federal government programs that are supposed to ensure chemical safety in industry - led by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) - do not regulate the handling or storage of ammonium nitrate. That task falls largely to the DHS and the local and state agencies that oversee emergency planning and response.
More than 4,000 sites nationwide are subject to the DHS program.
"This shows that the enforcement routine has to be more robust, on local, state and federal levels," said the expert, Sam Mannan, director of process safety center at Texas A&M University. "If information is not shared with agencies, which appears to have happened here, then the regulations won't work."
HODGEPODGE OF REGULATION
Chemical safety experts and local officials suspect this week's blast was caused when ammonium nitrate was set ablaze. Authorities suspect the disaster was an industrial accident, but haven't ruled out other possibilities.
The fertilizer is considered safe when stored properly, but can explode at high temperatures and when it reacts with other substances.
"I strongly believe that if the proper safeguards were in place, as are at thousands of (DHS) CFATS-regulated plants across the country, the loss of life and destruction could have been far less extensive," said Rep. Thompson.
A blaze was reported shortly before a massive explosion leveled dozens of homes and blew out an apartment building.
A U-Haul truck packed with the substance mixed with fuel oil exploded to raze the Oklahoma federal building in 1995. Another liquid gas fertilizer kept on the West Fertilizer site, anhydrous ammonia, is subject to DHS reporting and can explode under extreme heat.
Wednesday's blast heightens concerns that regulations governing ammonium nitrate and other chemicals - present in at least 6,000 depots and plants in farming states across the country - are insufficient. The facilities serve farmers in rural areas that typically lack stringent land zoning controls, many of the facilities sit near residential areas.
Apart from the DHS, the West Fertilizer site was subject to a hodgepodge of regulation by the EPA, OSHA, the U.S. Department of Transportation, the Texas Department of State Health Services, the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and the Office of the Texas State Chemist.
But the material is exempt from some mainstays of U.S. chemicals safety programs. For instance, the EPA's Risk Management Program (RMP) requires companies to submit plans describing their handling and storage of certain hazardous chemicals. Ammonium nitrate is not among the chemicals that must be reported.
In its RMP filings, West Fertilizer reported on its storage of anhydrous ammonia and said that it did not expect a fire or explosion to affect the facility, even in a worst-case scenario. And it had not installed safeguards such as blast walls around the plant.
A separate EPA program, known as Tier II, requires reporting of ammonium nitrate and other hazardous chemicals stored above certain quantities. Tier II reports are submitted to local fire departments and emergency planning and response groups to help them plan for and respond to chemical disasters. In Texas, the reports are collected by the Department of State Health Services. Over the last seven years, according to reports West Fertilizer filed, 2012 was the only time the company stored ammonium nitrate at the facility.
It reported having 270 tons on site.
"That's just a god awful amount of ammonium nitrate," said Bryan Haywood, the owner of a hazardous chemical consulting firm in Milford, Ohio. "If they were doing that, I would hope they would have gotten outside help."
In response to a request from Reuters, Haywood, who has been a safety engineer for 17 years, reviewed West Fertilizer's Tier II sheets from the last six years. He said he found several items that should have triggered the attention of local emergency planning authorities - most notably the sudden appearance of a large amount of ammonium nitrate in 2012.
"As a former HAZMAT coordinator, that would have been a red flag for me," said Haywood, referring to hazardous materials.
(Additional reporting by Anna Driver in Houston, Timothy Gardner and Ayesha Rascoe in Washington, and Selam Gebrekidan and Michael Pell in New York; Editing by Mary Milliken and Robert Birsel) _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
www.rethink911.org
www.patriotsquestion911.com
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
fish5133 Site Admin
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
|
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
The guys camcorder? Electric windows on car? Fire engines on route? siren at the works? _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
nrmis Validated Poster
Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 294
|
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Fire trucks maybe fish? The others dont seem likely (to me).
This guy seems to think no crater means no missile. He does produce an interesting trail towards what it might be.....
http://www.youtube.com/user/havf8?feature=watch |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 6342
|
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
the clip starting at 6 seconds sounds like Death Metal playing in the moving vehicle. then commotion can be heard one voice sounds like on a tannoy/PA system _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
www.myspace.com/disco_destroyer |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TonyGosling Editor
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
|
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
More Anomalies On West Texas Fertilizer Plant Explosion And Government Motives To Destroy It With A Missile Strike
April 26, 2013
http://www.blacklistednews.com/More_Anomalies_On_West_Texas_Fertilizer _Plant_Explosion_And_Government_Motives_To_Destroy_It_With_A_Missile_S trike/25580/0/38/38/Y/M.html
Source: Lee Rogers, BlacklistedNews.com
There’s been a great deal of feedback on my previous article discussing how video footage captured of the West Texas fertilizer plant explosion shows what looks to be a missile strike. People seem to have mixed opinions on what happened and that is understandable. We are not all going to 100% agree on everything and we are especially not all going to 100% agree on something as cryptic as this but it is important that we have an open discussion about this topic. It seems as if the mainstream of the so-called alternative media does not want to have any sort of open discussion about what happened with this incident. Alex Jones if you even want to consider him alternative media due to his numerous appearances on Zionist approved media stations and talk shows hasn’t touched this subject with a ten foot pole. Then you have Mark Dice putting out a video using all sorts of ad-hominem attacks against people who are questioning what happened. His video literally looked like something you would see on the O’Reilly Factor or another Fox News propaganda program. None the less, it appears as if there are quite a few people in the core of the so-called alternative media who either don’t want to talk about this or who are trying to persuade people from looking at any of this information. With that said, I felt it was important to dig into this event a little bit more and issue some counter arguments to points people are making who disagree with my assessment.
As stated in my previous article there were various oddities surrounding the company that ran this West Texas fertilizer plant including the Monsanto lawsuit, the timing of this event around the anniversary of the Waco Texas raid and the Oklahoma City bombing, a sizable drill taking place around the same time of the incident and of course the very interesting video evidence of the explosion. There is just a great deal about the event that does not add up.
One of the possibilities that others have proposed is that a deflagration to detonation transition occurred which is something that has been associated with a variety of industrial accidents. The basic gist is when flammable chemicals and air mix a sudden transition from subsonic combustion to a supersonic detonation can spontaneously occur. Unfortunately the exact mechanism that causes this is still not fully understood and there are no theories that can predict exactly how this transition occurs. What is difficult to understand is how this phenomenon would have occurred so far away from the actual source of the fire where there is only the presence of light smoke. The smoke was moving towards an area away from the facility where no hazardous materials were stored. It also does not match up with the characteristics of video showing other chemical and gas facilities exploding. If this is a phenomenon commonly associated with industrial accidents than theoretically we should see this same phenomenon in video taken of other chemical plants that have caught fire and exploded.
Back in 1988 a Nevada PEPCON chemical plant which stored ammonium perchlorate exploded after catching fire. Ammonium perchlorate is a similar but not quite identical substance to ammonium nitrate used for rocket fuel. Video footage of the PEPCON plant explosion does not show a flash or any sort of activity beginning mid-air away from the fire. Instead you clearly see an explosion creating a shockwave starting from the ground up where the chemicals were previously stored. In other footage depicting similar events they all show the blast originating on the ground despite all of the chemicals burning and mixing with the air. The footage of the West Texas fertilizer plant exploding is the only case I have found where the explosion appears to begin in the air away from the complex and not at the ground level. The footage shows what looks like some sort of object coming in away from the smoke towards the facility resulting in the eventual detonation upon impact with the gaseous fumes. In fact the clips seem to match up much more closely with the myriad of clips you can find showing test missile and bomb strikes.
Footage of PEPCON Plant Explosion
History Channel Report On PEPCON Plant Explosion
West Texas Plant Explosion vs PEPCON Plant Explosion
It is also still unknown what sort of chemical was initially on fire. The plant was said to have stored both anhydrous ammonium and ammonium nitrate but without exactly knowing what we saw originally burning, it makes it even more difficult to conclude that this was the result of a deflagration to detonation transition. Anhydrous ammonium is far less flammable than its ammonium nitrate counterpart and would make the aforementioned mid-air detonation event less likely. It is also possible that what we saw originally burning wasn’t either one of these substances. The original fire certainly did not look anywhere near as severe if you compare it to the footage of the fire that engulfed the PEPCON facility. It is worth noting that in one of the earlier press conferences an individual from the Texas Department of Safety said that anhydrous ammonium was what exploded although it is hard to say if he confused the two different types of materials. In addition, a rail car filled with ammonium nitrate that was located on-site has been ruled out by a fire official as a possible source of the fire. So here we have a couple of reports concluding that it might not have been the ammonium nitrate that was originally burning.
There is a third angle showing the plant exploding but unfortunately this angle isn’t as useful as the other two because the genesis of the explosion is obscured by the smoke. I have included it below for reference purposes since some have claimed this proves 100% that it couldn’t have been a missile strike. It might not show anything out of the ordinary but that doesn’t account for what the other 2 angles show.
Third Angle Of West Texas Plant Explosion
People have also been wondering what sort of motive the government would have for ordering a missile strike on a plant like this. Like I mentioned previously we are dealing with some sick people who enjoy engaging in bizarre ritualistic killings. There would not be so many government sanctioned terror events in April if they didn’t enjoy this sort of ritualistic garbage. Despite all of this, there is one motive that seems to be a bit clearer considering some of the ridiculous news that has recently come out pertaining to the Boston Marathon bombings. In case you missed it, they have now been linking the bombs used at the Boston Marathon to gunpowder and fireworks. These are two types of explosive substances that can be easily obtained through legal methods. Between this and the plant disaster the motivation would be to build public support for more regulations or outright bans on any type of explosive material be it ammonium nitrate, fireworks, gunpowder or a myriad of other substances.
The reason why the establishment wants more restrictions on these types of things is because they are scared of what could happen in the case of a societal breakdown. Chaos in the streets of American cities is absolutely a possibility when you factor in the ridiculously poor economy with roughly 50 million people on food stamps and the potential for the situation to implode at any moment. This is something that the Department of Homeland Security is obviously getting prepared for with the close to 2 billion rounds of ammunition they are stockpiling and armored vehicles that they have acquired. The last thing they want are people angry at the government who have access to explosive materials that can be made into IEDs, bombs and other weapons. So with this in mind, why not use a missile strike to destroy a facility like this to justify more restrictions and regulations on these types of materials?
Another bizarre twist to this story is that a similar event dubbed the Texas City industrial disaster took almost 66 years ago to the date of the West Texas explosion from April 16th through April 17th of 1947. The SS Grandcamp which was docked with over 2,000 tons of ammonium nitrate detonated and created a large chain-reaction of fires and explosions which blew up other ships and facilities in the surrounding area. Curiously enough Monsanto had a chemical plant that was destroyed in this disaster which is interesting considering that they are linked to this current disaster with the lawsuit the West Fertilizer Company filed against them. Either way, this is another tough coincidence to ignore just like the miraculous coincidence of the Obama regime claiming they killed Osama Bin Laden 66 years to the date of the day that Adolf Hitler was said to have died right on May Day.
One other question that people have been asking is why the government would use a missile strike on the facility when it is already on fire? It is possible that the original fire was an act of sabotage but that they weren’t confident in the initial fire destroying the entire facility so a missile or some sort of weapon was used to be 100% sure the job got done. The people who have been trying to determine the cause have narrowed it down to being an accident, arson or an unexplained cause. A missile strike would certainly qualify as an unexplained cause with somebody intentionally setting the facility ablaze prior to the strike satisfying the prospect of arson. The idea of a missile being used to destroy this facility is not as crazy as people might think and it fits into what the investigators on site have been saying regarding the cause of the disaster.
Based upon the information that I’ve seen thus far, I still believe there is a great deal of evidence to indicate that a missile was used to destroy this facility. If someone can provide a previous example of a chemical plant explosion that has similar characteristics to what occurred in West Texas than I will re-evaluate my stance on this. There are a lot of people who claim that there are a bunch of conspiracy theorists who want to believe this was a missile strike so they can automatically blame the government when the opposite is the case. I do not want to believe that the government may have been behind this, I’m just going by what the evidence is showing. It is a fact that the government has financed numerous terrorist operations and has killed innocent people overseas with drone strikes so this is not a stretch to believe they would do something like this. Unlike most so-called writers in the corporate media who engage in conspiracy theories and lie by omission in order for their point of view to fit the official story of whatever the government tells them, we are looking at and considering all possibilities. The possibility of a missile strike is just one of a number of prospects but at this moment I believe it is one of the more probable explanations for what happened.
Even if my current point of view on this disaster is proven wrong, this event combined with the Boston Marathon bombings are undoubtedly going to be used to push more regulations on anything that might be considered to be an explosive substance. The United States economy is floating on endless debt creation and it isn’t going to last forever. When it falls apart the powers that be can’t have a bunch of angry people with access to materials that could potentially be used to make explosive devices. Hopefully more folks in the alternative media will begin to scrutinize what took place here because no matter if you disagree with my assessment; it is undeniable that there are many strange things surrounding this plant explosion.
http://www.bcfmradio.com/wp-content/Podcasts/20130426170001.mp3
http://www.bcfmradio.com/wp-content/Podcasts/20130426180001.mp3 _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
www.rethink911.org
www.patriotsquestion911.com
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
https://37.220.108.147/members/www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
TonyGosling Editor
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|