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Quote: | Prof. Peter Dale Scott publishes: "9/11 Commission Deception, Cheney’s Actions on 9/11, and Why He Should Testify Under Oath"
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Submitted by ProfJones on Wed, 09/26/2007 - 6:28pm.
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Professor Peter Dale Scott has written an insightful and provocative paper, published today in the Journal of 9/11 Studies. Excerpts from the paper:
"The 9/11 Commission Report is an example of concerted cover-up, partly by omissions, and just as importantly by its cherry-picking of evidence to create impressions that are in fact authoritatively disputed, and in some cases probably not true. There are many examples of cherry-picking and contrived simulations of fact. More importantly, there is a consistent pattern in this: to minimize Cheney’s responsibility for what happened that day."
"In this presentation I have focused on anomalies in the behavior, especially on 9/11, of Richard Cheney. He, and Donald Rumsfeld and others, should testify, under oath, about
1) The June 1 JCS Order requiring highest-level approvals for intercepts of off-course planes,
2) The contested time of Cheney’s arrival in the Presidential bunker,
3) Cheney’s orders with respect to a plane approaching Washington, and did this occur around 9:27 AM (as testified to by Mineta), or 10:15 AM (as per the 9/11 Report)?
4) Cheney’s call or calls with Rumsfeld and the President before or about 10 AM, and did they discuss so-called “Continuity of Government” (COG), including warrantless surveillance, suspension of habeas corpus, and arrangements for mass detention.?
The story the Report presented was embarrassing enough: of a trillion dollar defence system that broke down on 9/11, and completely failed to perform its allotted function. But the Report’s systematic and repeated distortions lead one to suspect that some even more embarrassing truth is being concealed, and that this truth has to do with orders given on that day by the Vice President.
I believe that COG may be the answer to the mystery question about Cheney’s actions at a time when he was talking to the President and Rumsfeld. If so, the three men were almost certainly not acting on their own. Rather, they would have been key figures in a highly classified agenda that must have involved other people.
The question to be explored is whether that agenda involved revising the U.S. constitutional balance of powers, and whether Cheney on 9/11 was primarily occupied in exploiting the attacks as a means to implement an agenda of constitutional revision which he already had in place.
The 911 Commission decided that its supporting evidence and records should be withheld from public view until January 2, 2009 – a date which would obviously insure the President and Vice-President from possible impeachment. But many would concede that since 9/11, and as a result of 9/11, the American nation has drifted towards a constitutional crisis, requiring a change of policy direction. The issues posed by what happened on 9/11 are very relevant to this crisis, and too significant to be postponed until 2009. As it did belatedly in the case of the John F. Kennedy assassination, Congress should initiate a procedure for these records to be reviewed and released expeditiously.
Records that should be released would include all of the phone logs from the White House on 9/11, to determine, as a matter of priority, the precise time and circumstances of Cheney’s orders on that day. They would also include materials (such as COG files and the videotape of the White House teleconference) that the Commission apparently never requested. The public also needs to establish why other records requested by the Commission did not initially reach them.
And then, I believe, it would be appropriate for a venue to be established in which the Vice President would testify for the first time about 9/11 under oath."
I'm confident you will want to read Prof. Scott's paper, here: http://journalof911studies.com/volume/2007/ProfScottWhyCheneyMustTesti fy...
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Secretary Mineta Confirms Dick Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11
https://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/secretary-mineta- confirms-dick-cheney-ordered-stand-down-on-911/
Former Transportation Secretary Also Reveals Lynn Cheney Was in Presidential Emergency Bunker, and Contradicts 9/11 Commission Report’s Account of Dick Cheney’s Timetable
Here is the You Tube link for Mineta’s testimony: http://www.bing.com/search?q=youtube+to+video+converter&form=MSNH14&pq =you+tube+to+&sc=8-12&sp=7&qs=AS&sk=PA3AS3&ghc=1
Aaron Dykes / JonesReport | June 26, 2007
Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.
Mineta says Vice President Cheney was “absolutely” already there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed shocked to learn the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58– after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.
Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff.
Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it was omitted from their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:
“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out…and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?”
Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, “When I overheard something about ‘the orders still stand’ and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down.”
Mineta was still in the PEOG bunker when the plane was reported down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
“I remember later on when I heard about the Shanksville plane going down, the Vice President was right across from me, and I said, ‘Do you think that we shot it down ourselves?’ He said, ‘I don’t know.’ He said, ‘Let’s find out.’ So he had someone check with the Pentagon. That was about maybe, let’s say 10:30 or so, and we never heard back from DoD until probably about 12:30.
And they said, ‘No, we didn’t do it.'”
The two hour time delay is suspicious given the Vice President’s own account of the dedicated video communications available that morning, as he told it to Tim Russert of Meet the Press on September 16, 2001 .
“We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure video conference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense–a very useful and valuable facility. We have the counter-terrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it.”
At a bare minimum, this confirmation by Norman Mineta constitutes a gross contradiction to the 9/11 Commission Report, and poses serious questions about the Vice President’s role in ordering NORAD to stand down on 9/11.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/#Mineta
Norm Mineta – U.S. Secretary of Transportation 2001 – 2006. U.S. Secretary of Commerce 2000 – 2001. Senior Vice President, Lockheed Martin 1995 – 2000. Former 12-term Congressman from California 1971 – 1995. Currently, Vice Chairman of the Board, Hill & Knowlton.
9/11 Commission testimony 5/23/03:
Lee Hamilton: We thank you for that. I wanted to focus just a moment on the Presidential Emergency Operating Center [PEOC]. You were there for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the vice president. And when you had that order given, I think it was by the president, that authorized the shooting down of commercial aircraft that were suspected to be controlled by terrorists, were you there when that order was given?
Norm Mineta: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, “The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.” And when it got down to, “The plane is 10 miles out,” the young man also said to the vice president, “Do the orders still stand?” And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?” Well, at the time I didn’t know what all that meant. And —
Lee Hamilton: The flight you’re referring to is the–
Norm Mineta: The flight that came into the Pentagon. …http://www.youtube.com (Preview)
Norm Mineta: I didn’t know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him.
Tim Roemer: So when you arrived at 9:20 [at the Presidential Emergency Operating Center in the White House], how much longer was it before you overheard the conversation between the young man and the vice president saying, “Does the order still stand?”
Norm Mineta: Probably about five or six minutes.
Tim Roemer: So about 9:25 or 9:26. And your inference
was that the vice president snapped his head around and said, “Yes, the order still stands.” Why did you infer that that was a shoot-down? http://www.youtube.com
Editor’s note: Secretary Mineta’s testimony directly contradicts the 9/11 Commission Report on two key points and it is entirely omitted from the 9/11 Commission Report.
1. Mr. Mineta testified he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) in the White House at 9:20 a.m. and observed Vice President Dick Cheney discussing with an aide that the incoming Flight 77 was 50 miles out at 9:25 or 9:26. The 9/11 Commission Report maintains Vice President Cheney did not arrive at the PEOC until 9:58, over 30 minutes later. Mr. Mineta’s testimony is further supported by the fact that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37, which is the correct time it would have taken Flight 77 to arrive at the Pentagon, if it had been about 50 miles out at 9:26.
2. The Commission Report maintains the government did not know the whereabouts of Flight 77 prior to 9:32, when Dulles Tower air controllers “observed a primary radar target tracking eastbound at a high rate of speed”. Mr. Mineta’s testimony reveals Vice President Cheney was being informed of the plane’s position for several minutes before that, and perhaps considerably longer. [Ask yourselves how did anyone on the ground know a random aircraft in flight on that morning intended to strike the Pentagon? There’s no possible way anybody could know that– So why was Dick Cheney so certain the plane should be shot down?]
Also of interest, is that the first approximately 15 minutes of Mr. Mineta’s testimony before the Commission during which he discusses the points mentioned above, have been edited out of the official 9/11 Commission video archives (Panel 1, Friday, May 23. 2003). However, his full testimony does appear in the written transcript.
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