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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Cannabis herbal medicine/pain killer...Pat fights the law! Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJFbC2k_UQ

Off topic i know but the same mindset that did 9/11 are suppressing the benefits of this wonderful herb...


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Granny Pat (Pat Tabram).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dZFWKnOTUk

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cannibis is a drug and should be banned as it is bad for your health.
It causes cancer and makes people inpotent.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stelios69 wrote:
cannibis is a drug and should be banned as it is bad for your health.
It causes cancer and makes people inpotent.


So does cigarettes. So do exhaust fumes from diesel engines.

Beer ain't to good for you either. Especially the * they put in Stella Artois.

Lets ban all them. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stelios69 wrote:
cannibis is a drug and should be banned as it is bad for your health.
It causes cancer and makes people inpotent.


And that is the most impotent and horrifically ill-informed thing yoiu could say about cannabis. It has a myriad of medicinal benefits. This is well documented.

And if that is the case, shouldn't we be banning cigarettes and alcohol? These two legal drugs have NO medicinal effects at all. They are nasty, horrible products that are detrimental to health and human consciousness. All they do is, invariably, harm/kill people and/or harm/kill the people that the users of these disgusting drugs come into contact with.

You, Stelio, are an ignoaramus.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a very short sighted thing to say about tobacco and alcohol. . . Everyone knows that taxed drugs are all okay, it's those vile, nasty untaxed things you've got to beware.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marijuana doesn't cause cancer, the tobacco in the spliff does.

Here's a safe way to smoke it. Now the government has no excuse to keep it illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano_Vaporizer

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham wrote:
stelios69 wrote:
cannibis is a drug and should be banned as it is bad for your health.
It causes cancer and makes people inpotent.


So does cigarettes. So do exhaust fumes from diesel engines.

Beer ain't to good for you either. Especially the * they put in Stella Artois.

Lets ban all them. Very Happy


This isn't about comparison, the subject is very specific. Let's stick to inhaling concentrated smoke for recreational purposes as opposed to breathing to live.

We have all kinds of drugs, many prescribed. If an individual who has a health problem would benefit from the usage of cannabis in the comfort of their own home - then fine. However, it is recreational use by those who have no need is where it should be policed.

The health dangers of cannabis are not that straightforward. Research shows it can trigger schizophrenia in later life.

What also must not be ignored, is that cannabis today is not the same as cannabis from the hippy days.

Recent research shows smoking three pure cannabis joints is as bad for your lungs as smoking 20 normal cigarettes and marijuana is more dangerous now than it was in the 1960s. The British Lung Foundation said tar from cannabis cigarettes contained 50 percent more carcinogens -- the agents that produce cancer -- than tobacco.

"Three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage to the lining of the airways as 20 cigarettes," it said in a statement. It also said the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s because today's marijuana has increased amounts of key chemical compounds.

Campaigners for the legalization of cannabis disputed some of the findings;

"Saying that cannabis is stronger now than it used to be is like saying that orange juice is stronger these days," said Alun Buffry, spokesman for the Legalize Cannabis Alliance.
This is of course an excellent comparison given that orange juice today has far more chemicals in than 30 years ago – the levels of all kinds of pollution can be measured in significantly higher quantities.
It is all very well saying that people should be able to do what they like, pick and choose what they want to ingest – but it is called ‘dope’ for a reason. Smoking cannabis severely compromises your reaction times.

Doing it in your own home is one thing, but the increased usage outside in the community, is an accident waiting to happen.

Ban it, except under license for those who have legitimate medical need.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am suprised Tele - usually you're far more sceptical than here.

telecasterisation wrote:

The health dangers of cannabis are not that straightforward. Research shows it can trigger schizophrenia in later life.


As opposed to what other 'trigger' mechanisms?

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What also must not be ignored, is that cannabis today is not the same as cannabis from the hippy days.


This is true - it's a seasonal crop. Bread, beans and rape seed oil today are probably not the same as in hippy days either.

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Campaigners for the legalization of cannabis disputed some of the findings;

"Saying that cannabis is stronger now than it used to be is like saying that orange juice is stronger these days," said Alun Buffry, spokesman for the Legalize Cannabis Alliance.
This is of course an excellent comparison given that orange juice today has far more chemicals in than 30 years ago – the levels of all kinds of pollution can be measured in significantly higher quantities.


No what he is saying Tele is that orange juice is orange juice (as opposed to concentrate), peas are peas and cannabis is cannabis. Due to some cross-bred varieties of hydroponically cultivated dutch skunk with elevated THC levels, the meme is out there in Daily Mail land that people who should know better are invited to disregard their own life experience (those - and there were many - who did inhale) and envision an updated version of 'Reefer Madness' out there on the streets. In short - piffle.

telecasterisation wrote:
It is all very well saying that people should be able to do what they like, pick and choose what they want to ingest – but it is called ‘dope’ for a reason. Smoking cannabis severely compromises your reaction times.


Like most things in life some contexts are better than others. While on the whole I approve of my favourite musicians use therof, I don't therefore approve of an airline pilot or a driver being stoned on duty.

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Doing it in your own home is one thing, but the increased usage outside in the community, is an accident waiting to happen.


Agreed, but sometimes the trek to the all-night garage is unavoidable.


telecasterisation wrote:
Ban it, except under license for those who have legitimate medical need.


It's already banned - the point being for no sensible reason, other than widely demonstrated prejudices and special interests.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

telecasterisation wrote:
Graham wrote:
stelios69 wrote:
cannibis is a drug and should be banned as it is bad for your health.
It causes cancer and makes people inpotent.


So does cigarettes. So do exhaust fumes from diesel engines.

Beer ain't to good for you either. Especially the * they put in Stella Artois.

Lets ban all them. Very Happy


This isn't about comparison, the subject is very specific. Let's stick to inhaling concentrated smoke for recreational purposes as opposed to breathing to live.

We have all kinds of drugs, many prescribed. If an individual who has a health problem would benefit from the usage of cannabis in the comfort of their own home - then fine. However, it is recreational use by those who have no need is where it should be policed.

The health dangers of cannabis are not that straightforward. Research shows it can trigger schizophrenia in later life.

What also must not be ignored, is that cannabis today is not the same as cannabis from the hippy days.

Recent research shows smoking three pure cannabis joints is as bad for your lungs as smoking 20 normal cigarettes and marijuana is more dangerous now than it was in the 1960s. The British Lung Foundation said tar from cannabis cigarettes contained 50 percent more carcinogens -- the agents that produce cancer -- than tobacco.

"Three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage to the lining of the airways as 20 cigarettes," it said in a statement. It also said the health dangers of cannabis have substantially increased since the 1960s because today's marijuana has increased amounts of key chemical compounds.

Campaigners for the legalization of cannabis disputed some of the findings;

"Saying that cannabis is stronger now than it used to be is like saying that orange juice is stronger these days," said Alun Buffry, spokesman for the Legalize Cannabis Alliance.
This is of course an excellent comparison given that orange juice today has far more chemicals in than 30 years ago – the levels of all kinds of pollution can be measured in significantly higher quantities.
It is all very well saying that people should be able to do what they like, pick and choose what they want to ingest – but it is called ‘dope’ for a reason. Smoking cannabis severely compromises your reaction times.

Doing it in your own home is one thing, but the increased usage outside in the community, is an accident waiting to happen.

Ban it, except under license for those who have legitimate medical need.


And once again you believe and 'repeat' what you have been told. I suggest you go and do some homework before you start expousing such propagandist drivel. I happen to work with substance users (Alcohol, crack cocaine and heroin, mainly) a percentage of these people I have seen sectioned, hospitalized through chronic illness, accidents and violence and inveitably died for their abuse trobles. A good 90% of these are the drinkers of a drug called ALCOHOL. You know, the LEGAL ONE.

I have yet to see a cannabis user using succumb to the above.

You will not find cannabis to be the underlying factor behind domestic violence, general violence, child abuse, chronic illness. AND NOBODY HAS DIED ON IT. NOBODY HAS OVERDOSED ON IT. With regards to the cannabis mental illness debate, you will find that the users who have succcumbed to cannabis psychosis is very tiny, records show that they are very young and they have more than like been using 'skunkweed' which is infiltrated with man made chemicals in the process. Also the fact that increasing numbers of children are experiencing mental illness problems without imbibing anything suggests that it is the system that is poisoning their minds and not some recreational drug.

The reason why Cannabis is demonised by the powers that be is that it has the medicinal properties to sabotage private pharmaceutical companies but MORE IMPORTANTLY it allows the user to expand their consciousness, to relax, to enable them to ponder things and work out things for themselves. This of course would have a deeply damaging effect on a system that wishes you only to think what THEY tell you to think or remain below thought where the likes of alcohol takes you.

The legalization of cannabis would have a profound effect on the psyche of humankind. This, however, would not be good for those in charge of this capatalist system whose main task is to continue to keep human consciousness pushed face down in the mud.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...... let me see if i can think of another natural drug which the government doesn't like people doing........hmmm.....opium?

why is noone campaigning for legalizing opium?

"The reason why Cannabis is demonised by the powers that be is that it has the medicinal properties to sabotage private pharmaceutical companies"

no pharmaceutical companies would just sell it. who are you more likely to trust with your drugs, your chemist or local drug pusher?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are. Campaigning to decriminalise heroin.
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hmm...... let me see if i can think of another natural drug which the government doesn't like people doing........hmmm.....opium?

why is noone campaigning for legalizing opium?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a former tea leaf only smoker (as a teenager it was free and smelt different so looked cool) I have no idea what the effects of cannabis when smoked are. can anyone enlighten me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some folk in here need some we-education

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the dumbass accounts about cannabis being much stronger nowadays is void because it neglects to point out that so called skunk, is much more expensive per gram than bush or hash. therefore the user uses much less . i personally have found well grown and cured skunk to be much healthier than the hash i used to get. and of course i use less.
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Can Medical Marijuana Cure Cancer? A CSS Special Health Report:
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/12/06/17988/?utm_source=rss&utm _medium=rss&utm_campaign=17988

A number of promising stories here.

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