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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:33 pm    Post subject: TV Reporters Killed Live. Killer posted it to facebook Reply with quote

I don't want every murder and killing "to be a conspiracy" and have a NWO agenda but surely the latest killing of news reporters seems a bit strange...

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/lester-lee-flanagan-flanighan-flanigan-w dbj-tv-disgruntled-employee-virginia-shooting-suspect-cameraman-photos -video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/

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Here’s what you need to know:
1. He Posted Video He Recorded of the Shooting on Social Media [er...???]

Vester Lee Flanagan... posted video of the shooting on his Facebook and Twitter pages. The video shows him approaching the victims, and pointing a gun at them. He is behind them for several moments as Parker interviews Gardner. He holds the gun out until Ward turns the camera back toward Parker and Gardner, and then begins firing. The camera then shakes and drops as he opens fire. The camera continues recording, with a black screen, as screams and several more gunshots are heard.

Flanagan fired 15 times, emptying the entire magazine of the Glock handgun he was carrying. He purchased the gun legally two weeks before the shooting.

The shooting was also broadcast live on the air. That video is below, and again, is disturbing...

The shooting happened at about 6:45 a.m. Virginia State Police said his vehicle was spotted on Interstate 66 and tried to make a traffic stop.

“The suspect vehicle refused to stop and sped away from the trooper. Minutes later, the suspect vehicle ran off the road and crashed,” state police said in a statement. “The troopers approached the vehicle and found the male driver suffering from a gunshot wound. He is being transported to a nearby hospital for treatment of life-threatening injuries.

He also posted his apparent motive for the shootings on Twitter... The Twitter account has been suspended.

2. He Told ABC He Was Inspired by the Charleston Church Shooting & Was a ‘Powder Keg’

ABC News said it received a 23-page fax from someone named Bryce Williams after the shooting. ABC said it has shared the fax with police, and posted some of its contents Wednesday afternoon. The fax came about two hours after the shooting. He also called ABC twice in the hours after the shooting.

In the fax, Flanagan wrote, “Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15 … What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them.”
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[err???]
3. He Was Fired by WDBJ in 2013 & Was Escorted From the Building by Police
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4. He Was a Jehovah’s Witness & Worked as a ‘High Paid Companion’
[err???]
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5. He Sued a Station Where He Previously Worked for Racial Discrimination
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This all seem like something out of a bad movie... And indeed as coincidences go with these things... it is!

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‘Mr. Robot’ Finale Postponed Because of Similarity to Live TV Killings


http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/mr-robot-live-tv-killings-virginia-120 1579137/

I've also read that tweets about the killing started surfacing before the event happened. I'll look out for references to that...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willyloman is ontop of this issue: "Very Serious Problems with the WDBJ Shooting Story"

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How did [the gunman] know to be there at 6.43am?
Why did he wait for the cameraman to change his focus?
Why didn’t they react when he’s 4 feet away from them with a gun pointed at them?
How did he miss at point blank range?
How was the victim still able to run after 6 shots at point blank range?
Why leave the other white lady alive?
Why is the MSM refusing to show that video?
How did they find him in that rental car?
Why destroy the video footage shot at that scene?
Where is the “crash” they talked about?
How did he have the time to edit that video and upload it to Facebook, post Tweets announcing his video and guilt and fax his “manifesto” while being tracked by law enforcement for “hundreds of miles”?



https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/very-serious-problems-with -the-wdbj-shooting-story/

and

https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/08/29/wdbj-shooting-hoax-fixing- the-narrative-the-blinded-by-the-light-addendum/


Even MSM is trying to debunk the false flag aspects...

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“I know a lot of people are saying it was a false flag but I think they’re wrong because it doesn’t make a case for gun control when this guy clearly shouldn’t have been allowed to get a gun in the first place’ Mike Rivero
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When asked by a caller about her running away after 6 shots were fired, Mike Rivero shouts him down and cuts him off then lies and says she only takes “a few steps” and “I don’t think that proves anything”
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UPDATE: Someone did a video a little while ago titled “They Really Messed Up This False Flag” on Youtube… and of course, it’s been removed by YouTube on the grounds of their policy against “shocking and disgusting content”
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Critical evaluation of the established narrative is now “shocking and disgusting”.
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The story about WDBJ reporter Alison Parker and cameraman Adam Ward being shot on live television while doing a promotional spot for Smith Mountain Lake in Moneta, Virginia at 6:43 am is riddled with serious flaws and being covered in such a way as to remind me of all those phony “ISIS™” beheading videos that were anything but videos of someone being beheaded.

We’ll take them one at a time:

The “horrific” and “graphic” images that weren’t

If you remember back when they were still running those fake “ISIS™” videos of the staged beheadings that never seemed to happen on camera, you might recall a campaign emerged from the MSM telling people if they watched the actual videos that had been put out there, “ISIS™” would “win”

There was a major effort put out telling folks not to view the actual videos but instead just to take everyone’s word for it that they were “horrific” and “graphic” and they should hate “ISIS™” and support Obama’s re-engagement of Iraq and bombing of Syria and just leave it at that.

Well, there was a reason for that if you remember. It was because the videos were poorly made at first and not only did they not show people getting their heads cut off, they seemed to show some guy pretending to cut another guy’s neck with a plastic knife.

Of course they didn’t want you too see that because seeing those videos for what they were, or, more accurately, for what they weren’t, would harm the propaganda value of the project. It’s really just that simple.

Seems we have the same thing developing around this story as well.

New York Daily News Shocks With Graphic Cover Of Murdered Journalists
The Reason You Saw The Virginia Shooting Video, Even If You Didn’t Want To
How Most Major TV Networks Handled The Graphic Footage

Here is the actual New York Daily News cover that elicited such a response over it’s “graphic” image.



Do you see anything “graphic” in that image? Seems to me he missed. I mean, after all, if you watch the full video that the man took himself, you can see her run away after he fired a number of shots at her at point blank range. She never seems to react to being hit by a hail of bullets at all. And in the case of this image, she clearly is doing the same thing right before she turns and runs down that deck.

So, you have to ask yourself, why the big deal about not showing the full video of the attack. Why is it being pulled everywhere it’s uploaded? Why are the MSM talking heads acting as if this is the most shocking thing they ever saw? It’s ridiculous. And speaking of ridiculous:

https://twitter.com/danabrams/status/636561965175951365?ref_src=twsrc

Heavy.com posted this dire warning before showing the video of the shooter POV video. Of course, there is no graphic content in the actual video itself.

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Graphic images have been shown on the MSM before. Real graphic images.

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How did the shooter know where to find these two at 6:43 am?

Something that very few people seem to be asking is, to me, the most obvious: how did Vester Lee Flanagan know where they were going to be for the promo shoot?

Seems like another obvious question, doesn’t it? Smith Mountain Lake is an incredibly isolated area and it’s massive. Finding these three people in the remote location would be like finding a needle in a haystack and that’s assuming that somehow or another Vester was able to figure out they were doing a morning shoot there in the first place.

It’s about an hour from Roanoke and if you know anything about these kinds of promotional shoots, you know it takes about an hour to set one up which means if he had followed one of them from Roanoke, he would have had to have been staking out their cars somewhere around 3 or 4 am. Who does that?

I’m not ready for my close-up Mr. DeMille

This is probably one of the most damning aspects of this investigation of mine so I want you to follow along with me.

What I intend to show here is the fact that Mr. Flanagan was a bit early on his cue and hit his mark before he was supposed to, so he simply stepped back, waited, and then made his entrance again. This might actually be one of the main reasons they don’t want you watching that video.

And remember, he gets there ahead of time so he can set up his props as well. He’s got some kind of body camera on and his gun of course, but he also had to walk to the shoot location, supposedly without being seen by the three people involved in the promo. Ask yourself how that was possible, then go watch his video here.

It’s not “graphic”

Here are eight stills from that video in sequence.
[Goto link to see images Gunman POV taken from Gunman camera
1 Gunman walks up to TV interview - some distance apparently holding gun and camera - no reaction from anyone
2 Hangs around
3 TV Cameraman turns in opposite direction
4 Four feet away, gunman shows his gun - no reaction from TV interviewers
5 Gunman steps back - looks like he missed his cue
6 After six seconds aims at women (rather than the camerman next to him - presumably his main threat).
7 Six shots point blank range but woman runs away (despite 6 shots?)
8 Video goes black - yet audio continues - looks like an edit
]

What we have here is someone entering a scene, hitting his mark early, stepping as if he made an entrance onstage too soon and jumped back in the wings hoping no one would notice. Then, he waits, and resumes his entrance. The others take no notice of him, but that’s ridiculous. Of course they would notice him. How could they not notice him. He’s a large black man with a gun pointed at them 4 feet away.

According to his “manifesto”, Flanagan was enraged at this woman. He was a “powder keg” just waiting to go off at her. In it he wrote: ‘My anger has been building steadily…I’ve been a human powder keg for a while…just waiting to go BOOM!!!!’ Daily Mail

So why is it that he was so concerned about making sure the shooting aspect of the scene was on live TV? I thought he wanted to go “boom!!!”

Wouldn’t it be enough for him to shoot them and have the audience hear it? After all, he was recording it himself. He knew the video would be out there soon enough. So why wait? Why risk his big move? That camera man could have noticed him at any point and dropped his camera and grabbed the gun. After all, he was practically resting it on the guy’s shoulder. So why wait when all that could achieve would be to put his big plan at risk? If he and the cameraman start rolling around for the gun, the supposed target, the reporter, could get away. So why wait?

What was more important? Going “boom!!!”, exacting his revenge on her for something she had nothing to do with… or getting it on live TV? Apparently you have your answer.

He waited because the “shock and awe” aspect of the shooting was all about being live on TV.
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That’s why he waited and that’s why they paid no attention to him.
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[poor acting]
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And that is obvious when you watch that video he made… you know, the one someone edited.
The getaway, the rental car, the crash, the obligatory “manifesto” and the “I’m so crazy” video

If someone were to make sure everyone knew he was a shooter in this case, why would he try to get away? What’s the point?

In this case, the shooter not only left the scene, he drove more than 3 hours away, “hundreds of miles”, in morning traffic, on his way to DC from the look of it. Why would he do that?

Flanagan left his car at the airport and continued his escape in a Chevrolet Sonic that he rented earlier this month. Police tracked the vehicle as it traveled along Interstate 81 for hundreds of miles

We have been told that law enforcement figured out what car the shooter was in (somehow) and tracked him for “hundreds of miles” on interstate 81. Did they track him to the Fed Ex where he supposedly faxed his “manifesto”? They would have had to, right? He did that two hours after the shooting. Why didn’t they stop him then?



Then we are told there was a chase and a “crash” after which, the shooter took his own life with a handgun in a rental car. Below is a picture of that ‘crash’ and the rental car. Does that look like a ‘crash’ to you? There aren’t even tracks or skid marks in the soft grass behind the car, which apparently hit absolutely nothing. Seems to me he pulled off the road in complete control and someone… got out.. possibly disappearing in the woods? Remember the “crash” at the Navy annex building in Tenn? The “crash” into the gate that left no marks on the vehicle? How about Miriam Carey “crashing” into the gate at the White House? Remember those?

Vester Lee Flanagan led police on a chase before he crashed the Chevy Sonic he rented from an airport

Why did he choose to rent a car at the airport? Did he just get back from somewhere? And for that matter, what has this guy been doing for the past two years since being canned by the TV station? He’s doing something, cus he’s got a nice car. You know that from the “I’m so crazy” narrative building video he was featured in back in July when he had a “road rage” incident on the streets of Roanoke.

In the video you see his nice car, a Ford Mustang. Why did he rent one? Did he sell his Mustang prior to this? Did he get the extra insurance on the rental?

And while we are on the subject, why would he take his own life right next to that patch of woods right there? I thought he was seeking vengeance for all the white on black murders as of late. Well, didn’t the cops perpetrate most of that? Has he never heard of Freddie Grey, Mike Brown, Walter Scott and Miriam Carey? Why go “boom!!!” on the white woman who had nothing to do with any kind of harm toward black people and then, when being confronted by those that did, you opt to take your own life rather than attempt to harm them?
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Jan10 sent me an interesting link which you guys should be made aware of. She herself is having a hard time accepting my conclusions on this matter, but this story stands out so much she thought I needed to see it.

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“The suspect vehicle refused to stop and sped away from the trooper. Minutes later, the suspect vehicle ran off the road and crashed. The troopers approached the vehicle and found the male driver suffering from a gunshot wound. He is being transported to a nearby hospital for treatment of life-threatening injuries,” the report says. Flanagan later died, the BBC reported.

The BBC reporters, Strasser and McKelvey, were reporting from the scene of the crash when they were told by police to delete their video footage. PRI


As I have shown, there was no “crash”. The car seems to have simply pulled over and stopped. That aside, the reporters can’t quite figure out why it is if the cops view the video as evidence, why do they want it erased? Because that is what they did with it. Why erase footage they would need later for the investigation? Makes you think doesn’t it.

https://twitter.com/franzstrasser/status/636583928137183233?ref_src=tw src^tfw

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Motive, motive, motive and then motive. So where’s the motive?

The faxed “manifesto” is not a motive. It is not a confession. It’s a drop gun. It’s crack sprinkled on yet another black man’s face when he was lying dying on a street corner somewhere (thank you Dave Chappelle)

This is called presumption of guilt and it’s used in lieu of an actual investigation. It is not a motive.
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In this case, the “manifesto” faxed supposedly while the suspect was being tracked up I-81 for “hundreds of miles” contained what appears to be incriminating statements and what PASSES as a motive, but on further examination, it really doesn’t.

Being angry about what happened in South Carolina at that church is not a motive. If it were, he would be seeking out Dylan Roof, not this reporter who had nothing to do with it.

Claiming she made racist statements doesn’t amount to motive either especially when he shoots the cameraman who made no racist statements then leaves the head of the local Chamber of Commerce alive at the scene.

You can say he was a mad racist all you want, but her being left alive undermines your conclusion. In fact, from the video, you can see he never even targets her unless that happened during the edited out portion.

These two aspects of the story are included in the “manifesto” in order to be able to provide a pretext for the media to convict the guy in the court of public opinion without real evidence. They are indicators, not evidence. And though race-baiting interests like those who play the divide and conquer game with us everyday, would have you believe this is the motive, it isn’t. It doesn’t rise to that occasion.

Conclusion

Were this to end up being an example of a news organization manufacturing a story in order to promote a nation-wide agenda, it certainly wouldn’t be the first time that happened.
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I deliberately waited on writing something about this event because I wanted to cover it as best I could, absent any misinformation that was generated in the early stages of it. As I have written before, I don’t like to jump on stories like these before doing a good deal of research into them. They are difficult stories with difficult conclusions.
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Based on how it’s being handled by the media, on how the event unfolded, how the shock and awe aspect of it plays perfectly into the current gun-grabbing agenda of the current administration, the inclusion of the divide and conquer racial elements of it and how the police seem to want to destroy evidence rather than collect it, I have to come to the conclusion that something is terribly wrong with the official narrative of this event.

It simply doesn’t make sense the way it’s being framed. But it does make sense in another way. In fact, that makes perfect sense.
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How did he know to be there? Why did he wait for the cameraman to change his focus? Why didn’t they react when he’s 4 feet away from them with a gun pointed at them? How did he miss at point blank range? How was she still able to run after 6 shots at point blank range? Why leave the other white lady alive? Why is the MSM refusing to show that video? How did they find him in that rental car? Why destroy the video footage shot at that scene? Where is the “crash” they talked about? How did he have the time to edit that video and upload it to Facebook, post Tweets announcing his video and guilt and fax his “manifesto” while being tracked by law enforcement for “hundreds of miles”?

Way too many serious questions about this event leads me to conclude it was a staged event. Just one more in a long line of them making the general public ready to relinquish just one more of their constitutional rights.

That’s my conclusion and that’s how I reached it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

police involved?

she may have ran because he missed her with first shots

as regarding location--as he was a former employee he would have no trouble in finding out the schedule.


i did think it odd they never turned to look at him pointing gun but i supposes as trained interviewees they are used to ignoring distractions when doing live tv

has the guest given any statement yet

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-26/virginia-police-order-bbc-journa lists-delete-footage-suspected-shooters-crash

BBC reporters Franz Strasser and Tara McKelvey encountered a big obstacle in their coverage of a double slaying of journalists at a Virginia mall.

The two reporters were covering the manhunt of the suspected shooter when they were ordered to delete footage by police. On Wednesday night, Corinne Geller, the statewide public relations manager for the Virginia State Police, tweeted at Strasser.


The National Press Photographers Association has also requested a formal investigation.

The incident occured after Alison Parker, 24, and Adam Ward, 27, were fatally shot while reporting live for WDBJ7 at a shopping mall in Monetta, Virginia. The woman they interviewed was also wounded.

During the ensuing manhunt, the suspected gunman, Vester Lee Flanagan — known to colleagues as Bryce Williams — shot himself after police chased his car. The Virginia State police issued a statement on their Facebook page:

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“The suspect vehicle refused to stop and sped away from the trooper. Minutes later, the suspect vehicle ran off the road and crashed. The troopers approached the vehicle and found the male driver suffering from a gunshot wound. He is being transported to a nearby hospital for treatment of life-threatening injuries,” the report says. Flanagan later died, the BBC reported.

The BBC reporters, Strasser and McKelvey, were reporting from the scene of the crash when they were told by police to delete their video footage.


According to Strasser's Twitter feed, the reporters were left with only low-quality iPhone footage. He has since been able to recover a few of the images and audio until the officer made sure the footage was deleted.


It's not the first time reporters in Virginia have had trouble filming police.

Just last year WTVR-TV in Richmond reported on two incidents involving police officers and cellphones in Petersburg and Norfolk. According to the ACLU of Virginia, their office has documented citizens who have been charged for filming police — usually as a violation of wiretapping laws.

The Committee to Protect journalists weighed in, citing legal evidence, including details from a 2012 case that had to do with recording an arrest in Baltimore.

"The right to record police officers while performing duties in a public place, as well as the right to be protected from the warrantless seizure and destruction of those recodings, are not only required by the Constitution. They are consistent with our fundamental notions of liberty, promote the accountability of our governmental officers, and instill public confidence in the police officers who serve us daily."

There are two specific instances when government officers or employees can demand certain materials. The first is if there is enough evidence to suggest that the person is committing a crime, and the second is to prevent death or bodily harm to another person.

People have also been uncovering more of the shooter's background.

Jeff Marks, the general manager of WDBJ, says Flanagan used to work at WDBJ, but was ousted two years ago for an undisclosed reason. Following his dismissal, Flannagan filed a complaint against the station in 2014 with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, accusing various staffers of making racial comments. That complaint was eventually dismissed. It wasn't Flannagan's first time making such allegations against an employer. In 2000, he filed a discrimination lawsuit against Tallahassee TV station WTWC. The case was settled out of court in 2001.

Flanagan faxed a rambling 23-page document to ABC News shortly after the attack. He claims that what he did was a reaction to the Charleston church shooting. He expresses admiration for the Virginia Tech and Columbine High School shooters, and includes a long list of grievances, many of which have to do with racism, homophobia and sexual harasssment directed toward him.

"The church shooting was the tipping point," he writes in the manifesto, "but my anger has been building steadily ... I've been a human powder keg for a while ... just waiting to go BOOM!!!!!"

Marks called WDBJ's Parker and Ward "the kindest and nicest people who worked here...I can't figure out any connection."

Since the news broke on Wednesday, Parker and Ward's colleagues, families and friends have been sharing photos of the two.

For more of the BBC's coverage of the shooting in Virginia, read their live blog.

PRI's James Edwards contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish5133 wrote:
police involved?

Not sure what the question is. The Police were involved in chasing the killer...

fish5133 wrote:
she may have ran because he missed her with first shots

Sure but six shots from four feet away? Why didn't he try shooting the cameraman first?

fish5133 wrote:
as regarding location--as he was a former employee he would have no trouble in finding out the schedule.

No trouble? Possibly he had a friend on the inside that gave away the information accidentally.

fish5133 wrote:
i did think it odd they never turned to look at him pointing gun but i supposes as trained interviewees they are used to ignoring distractions when doing live tv.

Sure. But a big black guy with a gun? How did the facebook, tweets and fax get uploaded?

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has the guest given any statement yet

She said she played dead...

How did the facebook, tweets and fax get uploaded if he was driving a car?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police involved. What i mean by that is if its a so called staged false flag then are the police savvy to the event. I doubt it. The uploading to the net and tweeting could be done before he makes his get away ...or certainly before police give chase. Dont think we know the complete timeline yet...do we?
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fish5133 wrote:
Police involved. What i mean by that is if its a so called staged false flag then are the police savvy to the event. I doubt it. The uploading to the net and tweeting could be done before he makes his get away ...or certainly before police give chase. Dont think we know the complete timeline yet...do we?


The Police involved in the Staged False Flag? I really can't tell. The Police don't seem to be chasing the killer until 10.40am. I suspect that the three people that are stated as being dead are dead. But there are too many loose ends to really identify what happened. Just like Sandy Hook, the Boston Bombing and the recent triple terror attack, there is a concerted campaign that looks like state-sponsored, Gladio-like terrorism to keep everyone distracted and glued to MSM news.

Timeline. There's this from the Telegraph.

Note the time of the fax - sends at 8.26 and acknowledged by ABC sometime later - and the time of the posting to facebook.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11828606/Vi rginia-television-shooting-complete-timeline-of-events.html


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26/08/2015 6:45am
Shooting
Vicki Gardner was reporting for WDBJ7's "Mornin'" show, Adam Ward was filming.
Adam Ward is filming Alison Parker as she interviews Vicki Gardner of the Smith Mountain Lake Regional Chamber of Commerce. They are standing on a balcony overlooking Bridgewater Plaza in Franklin County. A man who would later be named as Vester Lee Flanagan II (AKA Bryce Williams) approaches the three, also filming with his phone, and begins shooting after waiting for several moments.Ward and Parker are both killed, with Gardner escaping with a gun-shot wound to the back. Flanagan escapes.
8:26am
Williams sends fax
Flanagan sends a rambling 26-page fax to ABC News under his stage name of Bryce Williams. The note makes broad allegations of racism and homophobia. In it, he describes himself as "a human powder keg... waiting to go BOOM!!!!". He says his anger has "been building steadily" and he had ordered the murder weapon in the days after Dylan Roof's attack on a Charleston church in June. He also praises the Virginia Tech and Columbine shooters, saying that Jehova told him to act.
9:15am
Station announcement
Alison Parker and Adam Ward.
Jeffrey Marks, WDBJ7's general manager says that two crew members were fatally shot on air in Moneta, Virginia. He identifies the victims as Alison Parker and Adam Ward.
10:40am
Police chase Williams
Virginia Governor Terry McAulife says that police are chasing a suspect. His arrest, McAulife says, is imminent. The Governor says on WTOP radio that the suspect is believed to be a disgruntled ex-employee of WDBJ-TV. He says police are pursuing the suspect on Insterstate 64.
11:00am
Mustang found
Roanoke police locate Flanagan's grey Ford Mustang at the city's airport. Flanagan had left the airport in a Chevrolet Sonic he had earlier rented. A Virginia state trooper locates Flanagan using license plate recognition equipment and pursues Flanagan. State Police Sergeant Rick Garletts says the trooper followed Flanagan until backup arrived before turning on her flashing lights.
11:05am
Bryce Williams identified
Vester Lee Flanagan II worked under the name of Bryce Williams.
Becky Coyner, of the Augusta County Sherriff's Office says the suspect is 41-year-old Vester Lee Flanagan II, of Roanoke.
11:15pm
Videos posted
Flanagan posts his first-person video of the shooting on Twitter and Facebook. The video shows him slowly walking up to the three victims, waiting, and the starting to shoot. The video is accompanied by several tweets which make various accusations of Parker and Ward's conduct towards him.
11:30am
Car crash
The rented Chevrolet Sonic
Within a few minutes of the trooper turning on her lights, Flanagan speeds off the road and is found with gunshot wounds which would prove to be fatal.
11:55am
ABC receives fax
ABC News announces its earlier receipt of Flanagan's fax. The news organisation is already cooperating fully with the police.
12:45pm
Third victim stable
Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital announce on Facebook that Vicki Gardner, the interviewee, is recovering after surgery.
2:20pm
Bryce Williams confirmed dead
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Youtuber Peekay22 spots differences between the live camera and the facebook phone footage: this indicates that the two videos were filming different "takes".

Head nod differences

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Arm movement difference

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Audio discrepancies especially with the OMG exclamations

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Rather strange that there was no blood...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crisis actors?

Virginia WDBJ Shooting Hoax BLOWN WIDE OPEN
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely looks like crisis actors...

The whole thing looks crooked but there has been considerable effort building the back story...

But as with all these things it should come back to physics.

Below is a comparison video of a real Glock 9 millimeter handgun firing real rounds compared to what we saw on the WDBJ shooting video. Pay attention to the lack of muzzle flash on the real gun and the lack of recoil or cartridges being ejected on the fake one and no bullet impact in the gunman video.

The Wilyloman website proposes that this difference is because the gunman video is using a fake gun - a “non-gun” basically a movie prop because using a real gun with blanks is quite hazardous.

A “non-gun” is a prop used in films, TV and live theater performances to simulate the look, sound and flash of a real weapon safely, without the use of blanks which can be very problematic and even dangerous if not handled by professionals.

If you watch the video above you will notice that with a real gun you can see cartridges being ejected from the right side of the gun. This doesn’t happen on the gunman's video. Indeed the gun shell falling onto the wooden decking should have been heard on the audio.

Non-guns are battery operated devises that electronically ignite pre-packaged squibs within the housing of the replica. Squibs are very small explosive charges used for a variety of pyrotechnic effects. In the case of a non-gun, an electric circuit is completed when the trigger of the replica is squeezed, causing the squib hidden inside to explode. Depending on the manufacturer, there might be some flash visible from the barrel...

More info on non-guns here http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Non_Guns

You can hire non-guns for $99 a week from here http://issprops.com/props/C2007


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roanoke Shooting ‘Survivor’ Vicki Gardner Rolled Out for Fox News Interview: http://winteractionables.com/?p=25169#more-25169

'This interview should take the cake for chutzpah, even for a hoax that is best of class for insulting your intelligence. Vicki Gardner is the Chamber of Commerce lady who was shot in the back (with a hollow point bullet) two weeks ago. Gardner’s husband, Tim Gardner, told the Associated Press that during surgery, and suffering from a medically induced coma, doctors had to remove a damaged kidney and part of her colon. In this video demonstration particularly note the effect of a Glock hollow point bullet on exit.
Now this robust 62 year old woman shows up for a Fox “News” Greta interview no worse for the wear: tanned looking, with great color, good range of motion @9:55, and nicely trimmed down. Hardly looks like the same woman, in fact much healthier looking. Far from being hospitalized with a hollow point bullet wound, she has already been living the good life.
Best quote from this farce @11:10- Greta: “Did it feel real?” Answer from satanic ‘actress’: “Nope.” As Gardner gets into her storytelling, she is so far off kilter that Greta starts looking visibly annoyed, as if to say to her handlers, “You have me out here acting with this clown?” From 8:55 Greta has to take over and lead the whole script. Bad casting: how long will it take until the Crime Syndicate “suicides” this woman and performs a fast cremation, so that no further interviews can be given, or questions asked. Note @14:10 a recap of numerous duping delights throughout.

@4:55 Two police officers arrive after shooting. One asks her if she “can get up?” Gardner claims to have gotten up under her own power. @5:10: “I went into a truck.” Police officers drive around in trucks? Do police immediately ask shooting victims if they can get up?

@8:38 Gardner says she “believes” he came back and shot her.” “Believe” in English is defined as “to suppose or assume”. What an odd word choice to describe the most memorable moment of one’s life.

@ 7:45: Gardner says Adam was shot first. No Vicki you badly missed your lines on that one. The shooter fired at least a half dozen shots at fraudster Alison Parker first, that is well established. See side by side shooting video. First a 300 pound black shooter wearing body armor and a video cam walks up undetected, then he misses at least four point blank shots on Parker, and now this revealing Gardner interview. Here is the Fox News video just in case this Peekay analysis gets pulled down.

@13:00: Says “I knew he was shooting the others in the head.” How would she know this: Parker was at the end of the passageway, and Gardner was “playing dead”. She never addresses the actions of Adam at all.

After being shot in the back she was able to continue to play dead. What fortitude! What super-human strength! What a fraud!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keli Kohlmeier as witness: believable, cracking up and rational. How did the Police get to her apartment within 4 minutes?
Vicki Gardner as witness and victim: unbelievable. Very vague about being shot and laughing at the end of interview. Did not know not who was shot first.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is old news now but the supposed boyfriend - nonsense actor and definitely not Parker's real boy friend. And the "Dad" another really bad crisis actor.

We know we are being lied to. You'd expect TPTB to put in a little bit more effort wouldn't you?

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Gun control false flag crisis actors be warned: Facial recognition search software is going to bust you. Funny, the technology is easy enough to use on Facebook, one has to wonder why the mainstream media and police don’t use it for these alleged mass shooter events.

Actually, this is an even bigger warning to the billionaire “philanthropists” who back aggressive gun control initiatives and are likely backing these staged “events.” You’ve hired horrible actors. You’re going to get busted unless you back off. But, alas, we know your allegiance to the UN Small Arms Treaty requires you to push forward despite a growing number who know your game.

The latest reporter shooting hoax in Virginia is getting so easily torn apart by the conspiracy research community that the media’s emotional staging of actors is becoming absurd.

The latest discovery is that Alison Parker’s alleged fiancé Chris Hurst, who has only eight social media photos of him with Alison, is probably just her “TV” boyfriend. A guy named Daniel Wulz has been outed by facial recognition as her real-world boyfriend.

Some of the media’s photos of Alison are taken directly from Wulz’s Facebook account, which is now curiously unavailable.

Not surprisingly, Daniel Wulz, is also filmmaker. His YouTube channel described as “The combined efforts of our work featuring Independent Films, Concert Videos and Film trailers.”

A video posted to his YouTube channel has the description “Something I made when I was still learning film. Kinda crappy but whatever.” ....

Wulz posted a creepy new video to his YouTube channel today after a 7-month break, a shirtless rendition of a song “For Alison.” When will the media interview this guy who was so clearly a huge part of her life?

Many have already pointed out the acting background of the supposed father of the victim Alison Parker, Andy Parker. Perhaps it’s a coincidence that his background readied him for appearing everyday on TV since and including the same day his daughter was allegedly murdered.

From the description to a recent Dutchsinse video: “While playing the banker, Andy Parker is also simultaneously doing Broadway plays and TV commercials reaching back multiple years. To top it off, he’s also a former politician ! He’s real “jack of all trades” it would seem. Pictures of Andy Parker’s latest performance as the lead star in Les Miserables! See screenshots from his 2013 performances here.”

All of these alleged mass shootings are immediately capitalized on by fake family members to call for more gun control. The media and the lawmakers are either completely in on the fraud or they’re being played like fools. When will they wake up?
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