Quilliam con - Media storm around Muslim propaganda film

[TonyGosling]

Anti-Islam MP held at UK airport
Wilders is leader of the Dutch Freedom Party [AFP]

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kcev1K-NOc
A Dutch politician facing trial for inciting racial hatred says he has been detained at Heathrow airport in London, after defying a ban by British authorities to enter the country.
Geert Wilders had been invited by a member of the House of Lords to screen his controversial film Fitna, which urges Muslims to ear out "hate-filled" passages from the Quran.............

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/02/200921215455825125.ht ml

[fish5133]

Sure to set the cat amongst the pigeons. truth needs to get out even if unpalitable to some. Wonder how this potrayal of Islam fits into the New World Order. You can see how the elite could use Islamisation as a tool of fear to control masses.

[scubadiver]

[TonyGosling]

I mean, Islam is in line with the UN Charter's right to self-defence.
How dreadful!
Interesting that, despite lots of great Dutch things/people, Holland is the source of so much of this far right stuff.
And the home of the frantic hate-fuelled uber-masonic Orange Order.
As well as a Nazi Royal Family and the home of The order of Bilderberg of course!

[Mark Gobell]

Hamstrung thread or what ?

Interesting film that Fitna.

Lots of talk about killing jews and infidels, quotes from the koran mixed up with pictures of alleged terrorism . . . .

Nothing much more than you've already seen on your tv really, or can easily find on t'internet . ..

Who would be offended by that ?

Why would making a video compilation of religious maniacs calling for murder and mayhem offend anyone ?

His visit in december went unnoticed.

His visit now, hosted by ukip was....

We bomb and strafe muslim folk in far off places, no problem at all. Our government uses our taxes to murder iraqis and afghans.

Mention that they might want to do the same to us, if you are from the other side of the euro politico-fence then, you're disbarred ?

Bizzare. But hey that's Zanu-Lab-Zio-GB innit . . .

The zio fascists in gaza can do what they like and they get creamy TV coverage.

Sit back, relax, breathe in, breathe out . . .

Geert Wilders, a dutch parliamentarian, who has no convictions, has been banned from entering the UK.

Put your prejudices aside and think about that . . .

Press Release: Quilliam Foundation challenges Geert Wilders to a debate on Islam

On 11th February 2009, the Quilliam Foundation issued the following press release:



The Quilliam Foundation has announced its opposition to the decision by the Home Office to ban Geert Wilders, the Dutch MP, from the UK. The Quilliam Foundation believes that although many of Wilders’ public statements are bigoted, ill-informed and offensive to people of all faiths, this is not an adequate reason to prevent him from coming to the UK.



The Quilliam Foundation says that Wilders’ ideas should be challenged through debate – not through government intervention that may only make him a martyr to his supporters.



The directors of the Quilliam Foundation therefore challenge Geert Wilders to an open and public debate on Islam and its compatibility with European values.
Maajid Nawaz, Director of the Quilliam Foundation, says:


“Banning Geert Wilders from the UK is not the solution. Just as the ideas of non-violent Islamist groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir should be tackled through debate and argument, so should those of Wilders and others. Freedom of speech should be protected – so long as people do not use this freedom to call for violence against others.

“Wilders has evidently been convinced by the words and actions of Islamists and jihadists that Islam is inherently violent and intolerant. We therefore challenge him to an open debate in which we will argue that Islam is not an inherently violent religion and that, contrary to what he apparently believes, Muslims are not a threat to Europe and its values.”

Ed Husain, the co-Director of the Quilliam Foundation, says:

“Geert Wilders is undoubtedly an ill-informed, hate-driven bigot with many unpleasant views but he is not directly inciting violence. As a result, unlike in the case of Yusuf al-Qaradawi, I do not support the decision to ban him from the UK. By threatening parliament with a mob, Lord Ahmed is contributing to the negative portrayal of Muslims and their religion.”

http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/index.php/component/content/article/ 404

[blackbear]

Why Islam is Needed to Defeat Terrorism

Rachel North

Speaks at the Quilliam Foundation Launch Event.

An Uncle Ali......controlled foundation.

http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/component/content/article/51-video/1 60-quilliam-foundation-launch-event.html

An interesting read.....

The ‘Islamist’ who wasn’t

By Inayat Bunglawala

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=10187

[Frank Freedom]

Isn't this just a far right racist war provocation Psycological Operation

[TonyGosling]

Isn't this just a far right racist war provocation Psycological Operation?

[Mark Gobell]

Good points blackbear.

Tis this thing we struggle with, to speak freely or not to speak at all....

[Caz]

The following interview with Pearson is interesting:


Link


At the end of the video it reads: 'Edited by: www.vladtepesblog.com'

'Vlad Tepes' is the historical dracula and means 'Vlad the Impaler'. 'Vlad ' meaning 'to rule', Vlad Tepes was also known as the 'Prince of Darkness'.
http://www.donlinke.com/drakula/vlad.htm
http://www.vladtepes.info/the-real-prince-dracula.html

Apparently when his grave was dug up by archaeologists in the 1930s, all they found were horse bones.
http://blog.bitcomet.com/iully/post_85128/


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[fish5133]

"In British music halls before the Crimean War they sang: "We don't want to fight but by jingo if we do, We've got the ships, we've got the men, we've got the money too."

Well if its a civil fight against radical Islam on our shores then ships arent that much use unless a few shells fired from Irish sea will reach Bradford

"weve got the money" not so sure about that now what with MPs stockpiling.

"we've got the men" well this might be the only plus point but we would have to bring them back from Iraq and Afghanistan.

"weve got no guns" well Joe Public anyway. The underworld of big cities will have a peace keeping role --- for a price.

I am just past 50 and watched enough of Dads Army to want to sign up. Just a shame Pikey has been suspended

We could have the No Planes Camp representing the air raid warden --"put that light out" sorry false alarm!

Interesting at 2:10 he said about UK towns already given over to Sharia Law.

[Caz]

I also noted his comment about population.

ANd not sure where he gets his information from re Sharia law in towns.

Most disturbing is that Lord Malcolm Pearson of Rannoch is now the head of UKIP.

[Caz]

The director of Quilliam has connections with the SOAS and the LSE.

So do those at Birkenhead Society, who funded Wilder's appeal to the AIT.

Now that Pearson is the head of UKIP, it's also interesting to note that UKIP was set up at the LSE.

[Caz]

Interesting that Mark Gobells quotes the Quilliam Foundation, linked with the British Eugenics Society:

http://www.eugenics-watch.com/briteugen/eug_pq.html

[Whitehall_Bin_Men]

5/11 Quilliam produced blacklist sent secretly to govt – smeared peaceful groups as aligned with terrorist ideas

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug/04/quilliam-foundation-list-all eged-extremism
List sent to terror chief aligns peaceful Muslim groups with terrorist ideology
• Quilliam Foundation's list 'not for public disclosure'
• File for counter-terror boss branded 'McCarthyite'
The East London Mosque
The East London Mosque has been included in the Quilliam Foundation list of organisations sharing the same ideology as Islamic terrorists. Photograph: Alamy
Vikram Dodd, crime correspondent
Wednesday 4 August 2010 22.53 BST
A secret list prepared for a top British security official accuses peaceful Muslim groups, politicians, a television channel and a Scotland Yard unit of sharing the ideology of terrorists.

The list was drawn up for Charles Farr, the director general of the Office for Security and Counter-Terrorism (OSCT), a directorate of the Home Office. Farr is a former senior intelligence officer.

It was sent to him in June by the Quilliam Foundation, a counter-extremism thinktank which has received about £1m in government funding.

Quilliam was co-founded by Ed Husain and Maajid Nawaz, former activists in the radical Islamist party Hizb ut-Tahrir. Critics of the foundation accused it of McCarthyite smear tactics and branded its claims ridiculous. The foundation declined repeated requests for comment.

The document sent to Farr is entitled "Preventing terrorism; where next for Britain?" It lists alleged extremist sympathisers, including the Muslim Council of Britain, the main umbrella group in Britain for Islamic organisations. It also claims that a Scotland Yard counter-terrorism squad called the Muslim Contact Unit is dominated by extremist ideology.

Other groups include the Muslim Safety Forum, which works with the police to improve community relations, the Islamic Human Rights Commission, and even the Islam Channel, which provides television programmes for Muslims on satellite.