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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Benghazi/Syria Chemical Weapons: Hillary State Dept evidence Reply with quote

Respected reporter for Asian Times, Pepe Escobar claims Russia is saying that the 'chemical weapons' were fired from rebel-held territory.

Khalil Harb, of Lebanese paper As-Safir, confirmed a few minutes ago to my great friend Claudio Gallo an article published in Arabic two days ago, quoting a Russian source.

According to the source, Russia's ambassador in the UN Security Council, Vitaly Churkin, presented conclusive evidence - based on documents and Russian satellite images - of two rockets carrying toxic chemicals, fired from Douma, controlled by the Syrian "rebels", and landing on East Ghouta. Hundreds of "rebels", as well as civilians - including those children on the cover of Western corporate media papers - were killed. The evidence, says the Russian source, is conclusive. This is what Lavrov himself was hinting at yesterday. And that's the reason there's no UN Security Council resolution against Syria, and why Washington does not want the inspectors to find anything.
https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10151840247251678,

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VERY IMPORTANT: RUSSIA HAS PROOF THAT THE "REBELS" DID IT. 10 hours ago from 21:24, 27 August
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:58 pm    Post subject: Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria Reply with quote

Hackers Expose U.S. False Flag to Frame Syria
February 13, 2013 AFP
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• Mercenary emails indicate U.S. may have proposed “false flag” chemical attack

By Richard Walker

Hacked emails from a British mercenary company were posted online, leading to claims Washington was backing a dirty war against Syria in which a chemical attack on Syria could be blamed on the Syrian regime, thereby strengthening the case for immediate intervention on the part of the United States military.

British mercenary company, Britam Defence, has since admitted it was hacked but claimed the hacker, who posted his online name as “JAsIrX,” had maliciously and cleverly used hacked material to generate forgeries to destroy the company’s reputation and make it look like it was involved in shocking behavior.

According to a spokesman for the company, it was really a “risk management firm” and not a mercenary company like those hired by the U.S. Defense Department to carry out military operations in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

However, the sheer volume of hacked documents from Britam demonstrates that the UK firm has a hand in more than just paper-pushing. It is clearly a company with tentacles that reach into all parts of the military-industrial complex in the UK and overseas.

One of the hacked emails that has resulted in the most embarrassment for the U.S. government concerned Syria. The email reads as follows:

Phil, we’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved in Washington. We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell [sic] from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don’t think it is a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?

Kind regards,

David


The “Phil” referred to in the email is purported to be Philip Doughy, Britam’s founder. The “David” is the director of development, David Goulding. The “CW” in the email refers to Chemical Weapon and the “g-shell” implies a gas-warfare-type shell.

The company claims the email was a forgery. Nevertheless, its release coincided with warnings by Israel and the Obama White House that Syrian leader Bashar al Assad was liable to use his chemical weapons on the Arab revolutionaries and Islamist militias trying to overthrow his government. Israel has insisted it reserves the right to attack Syria’s chemical sites and the issue has encouraged neocons to argue it is time for the U.S. and its allies to get more directly involved in overthrowing Assad. Russia has insisted Assad has given it an assurance he will not use chemical weapons on his people.

In all, 423 megabytes of zip files were hacked from Britam. Aside from the one on Syria, there were others related to Iran that have caused considerable controversy.

For example, one file folder contained outlines of plans for varying types of military actions to be undertaken as part of an attack on Iran. The topics listed in the files were under headings such as “Fix enemy forces and lure them to the killing zones.” Another had the title, “Move from their garrisons to occupy AA at Grid (1556) (IAW Movement Order).” The IAW stands for “in agreement with.”

The hacker, who posted the files, said he hacked Britam’s website after discovering it was on a Malaysian server and that its files indicated it had plans for the invasion of Syria and Iran. He described it as a private military company. To prove his case, he also released copies of emails and files with titles such as “WMM Baghdad 5” and “Iran issue” with the date, 24-01-2013.

One file contained a listing of many of Britam’s clients, including Halliburton with which it has an ongoing $16M contract for what it terms “risk assessment, planning and close protection of personnel” in oilfields in parts of Iraq. A similar contract worth $11M is with BP.

In response to media coverage of the hacking, a spokesman for Britam insisted the company was more of a “commercial private security” company as distinct from the private contractor outfits like Blackwater that operated during the Bush and Obama presidencies. Blackwater subsequently changed its name to XE after it was accused of murdering Iraqi civilians.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lest the MSM forget: from May this year
Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official
By Shaun Waterman
The Washington Times - Monday, May 6, 2013
Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.
Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.
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Major reports by two Turkish daily newspapers detail the arrest of twelve suspects linked to the Reyhanlı bombings on May 11 in which 51 people were killed and 140 injured. The 12 suspected Al-Qaeda members were arrested in Adana, southern Turkey and anti-terrorist police seized among other items, 2 kilograms of the sarin nerve agent.
http://syriareport.net/chemical-weapons-found-in-turkey-raid/
Zaman reports that the dawn raid took place on Monday, 27 May following intelligence gathered on the cell.
Additionally, today, Radikal reported that of the 12 arrested suspects of Jabhat al-Nusra, 5 were released. Radikal also reported the seizure of the nerve agent sarin which is categorised as a weapon of mass destruction in the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention.
On May 3, Syria Report published an extensive report on Al-Qaeda and it’s history of chemical weapons use, including the deployment of sarin.
Sarin, or GB, is a colourless, odorless substance which is extremely difficult to detect. It is used as a chemical weapon owing to its extreme potency as a nerve agent. It has been classified as a weapon of mass destruction in UN Resolution 687. Production and stockpiling of sarin was outlawed by the Chemical Weapons Convention of 1993 where it is classified as a Schedule 1 substance. Sarin gas is not particularly difficult to manufacture.
This is the second major official confirmation of the use and possession of chemical weapons by Al-Qaeda surrogates in and around Syria after UN inspector Carla Del Ponte’s recent statement confirming the use of chemical weapons by the militants in Khan al-Asal, Aleppo. The Turkish anti-terrorist police are currently conducting further investigations into the operations of Al-Qaeda linked groups in Turkey.
The major reports from Turkish media have not yet been echoed by mainstream media outlets.
In other significant news today, a video announced the merger between the Free Syrian Army in Aleppo’s Al-Bab and Jabat al-Nusra.
Many thanks to Seıf for bringing the articles to our attention.
Many thanks to Philip George, a Romania-based military and weapons expert, for additional reporting.

Al-Qaeda's Jabhat al-Nusra Caught with Sarin Gas inside Turkey

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Turkish security forces found a 2-Kg cylinder with sarin gas after searching the homes of jihadist militants from al-Qaeda's Jabhat al-Nusra (Nusra Front) who were previously detained, Turkish media reports. The gas was reportedly going to be used in a bomb.
The sarin gas was found in the homes of suspected Syrian Islamists detained in the southern provinces of Adana and Mersia following a search by Turkish police on Wednesday, reports say. The gas was allegedly going to be used to carry out an attack in the southern Turkish city of Adana.
On Monday, Turkish special anti-terror forces arrested 12 suspected members of the Jabhat al-Nusra, the al-Qaeda affiliated group which has been dubbed "the most aggressive and successful arm" of the "Syrian rebels". The group was designated a terrorist organization by the United States in December 2012.
Police also reportedly found a cache of weapons, documents and digital data which will be reviewed by police.
Following the searches, five of those detained were released following medical examinations at the Forensic Medicine Institution Adana. Seven suspects remain in custody. Turkish authorities are yet to comment on the arrests.

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In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said: ’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria. This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate”.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On BBC News24 TV 12.30, today, 29th Aug, Tory MP said that anybody that believes the disinformation campaign from Assad and Russia "must be mad". I guess this must include the majority of the population then... Rolling Eyes
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Another interesting play comes in the form of Lord West, now in white suit....
He of course is the man speaking the balanced view whilst being a member of the Order of the Bath and a Navy boy.

I do wonder why these Lords, as is their right, do not invoke Article 61 Magna Carta to force a return to the realm by all office's oathed to her.

Controlled opposition?

And of course having 21 Bishops in the House of Lords one would expect all of them to do the same... Something ain't right here...

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evidence - zero - trust us say JIC!

In its assessment of the chemical weapons attack the JIC said the regime had launched at least 14 chemical weapons attacks in the past. The assessment says: "It is not possible for the opposition to have carried out a CW attack on this scale. The regime has used CW on a smaller scale on at least 14 occasions in the past. There is some intelligence to suggest regime culpability in this attack. These factors make it highly likely that the Syrian regime was responsible."
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The way it's all going one thing is becoming clearer tonight - the US is more under Zionist control than the UK.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US is about to bypass congress???
Assad used Chemical Weapons say Mossad
How DARE you question Mossad - eh?
Let's see


Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'
Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces' 8200 unit, former official tells magazine
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-inte rcepted-syria-chemical-talk

Israel Grants Oil Rights in Syria to Murdoch and Rothschild
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/02/israel-grants-oil-right s-in-syria-to-murdoch-and-rothschild/
by craig on February 21, 2013 2:24 pm in Uncategorized
Israel has granted oil exploration rights inside Syria, in the occupied Golan Heights, to Genie Energy. Major shareholders of Genie Energy – which also has interests in shale gas in the United States and shale oil in Israel – include Rupert Murdoch and Lord Jacob Rothschild. This from a 2010 Genie Energy press release:
Claude Pupkin, CEO of Genie Oil and Gas, commented, “Genie’s success will ultimately depend, in part, on access to the expertise of the oil and gas industry and to the financial markets. Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch are extremely well regarded by and connected to leaders in these sectors. Their guidance and participation will prove invaluable.”
“I am grateful to Howard Jonas and IDT for the opportunity to invest in this important initiative,” Lord Rothschild said. “Rupert Murdoch’s extraordinary achievements speak for themselves and we are very pleased he has agreed to be our partner. Genie Energy is making good technological progress to tap the world’s substantial oil shale deposits which could transform the future prospects of Israel, the Middle East and our allies around the world.”
For Israel to seek to exploit mineral reserves in the occupied Golan Heights is plainly illegal in international law. Japan was succesfully sued by Singapore before the International Court of Justice for exploitation of Singapore’s oil resources during the second world war. The argument has been made in international law that an occupying power is entitled to opeate oil wells which were previously functioning and operated by the sovereign power, in whose position the occupying power now stands. But there is absolutely no disagreement in the authorities and case law that the drilling of new wells – let alone fracking – by an occupying power is illegal.
Israel tried to make the same move twenty years ago but was forced to back down after a strong reaction from the Syrian government, which gained diplomatic support from the United States. Israel is now seeking to take advantage of the weakened Syrian state; this move perhaps casts a new light on recent Israeli bombings in Syria.
In a rational world, the involvement of Rothschild and Murdoch in this international criminal activity would show them not to be fit and proper persons to hold major commercial interests elsewhere, and action would be taken. Naturally, nothing of the kind will happen.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: complaain to the BBC over its biased reporting Reply with quote

Complain to the BBC over the biased reporting of the chemical weapons attack. The BBC has shown iyself to be totally biased, re: newsnight last night, and LBC, R4, R5 all are trying to influence the British public into thinking it was Assad supporters who undertook the chemicla attack, when as we can see from the post on this forum, that is most probably a lie, and yet another false flag attack.
Write to the BBC trust and tell them what you think.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose its feasible that noone actually "launched" a chemical attack. A conventional bomb on the chemicals could result in them escaping.
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Quote:
Syrians in Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack
by Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh, August 31, 2013


http://original.antiwar.com/dale-gavlak/2013/08/30/syrians-in-ghouta-c laim-saudi-supplied-rebels-behind-chemical-attack/


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This story (Infowars - 'The rebels admit responsibility for the chemical attacks) could completely derail the United States’ rush to attack Syria which has been founded on the “undeniable” justification that Assad was behind the chemical weapons attack. Dale Gavlak’s credibility is very impressive. She has been a Middle East correspondent for the Associated Press for two decades and has also worked for National Public Radio (NPR) and written articles for BBC News.


I cannot access the supposed original source of the news from Mint Press - a seemingly respectable liberal news outlet based in Minneapolis.
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Heard a news report that said ongoing discussions in USA could delay any action on Syria for at least 8 days.

Getting close to that 9/11 date-- what a way to stop the rethink 9/11 bill board campaign getting air time by carrying out an attack on Syria on the same day

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Skull and Bones society is threatening Syria (World Crisis Radio)
http://tarpley.net/2013/08/31/obamas-coalition-reduced-to-us-and-weake ned-france-as-kerrys-skull-and-bones-diplomacy-falters-turn-the-imperi alist-war-into-a-revolutionary-mass-strike/

As threats fly around wars can start
As Martin Summers says.. perfect to blame any impending crash and famine/pestilence on eh?
You can just about hear him in the interfered with audio from Friday's show http://www.bcfmradio.com/2013/08/30/17/friday-drivetime-137/31956

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Just accidentally stumbled on this following a link in a comment from a very interesting post on Craig Murray's blog - the Murray post is a technical one about how the British ought to have intercepted the intelligence on the chemical weapons attack and also worth reading I think:
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/08/the-troodos-conundrum/

I'm guessing you've probably read about John Kerry's war record before, but if not then this counterpunch article (from the aforementioned link) certainly makes for interesting reading:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/26/what-john-kerry-really-did-in-v ietnam/

While I'm at it I should perhaps link to a couple of other posts that may be important (I find it hard to judge how reliable these things are). One is from what appears to be a reputable AP reporter saying he has evidence from eyewitness testimony that the chemical weapon in Ghouta had been supplied by Saudi Arabia:
http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-suppli ed-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

And then there's this one alleging that Zawahiri has officially taken sides with the Syrian rebels:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/zawahiri-syrian-rebels-damascus-first- then-cairo-then-jerusalem

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Staged videos?
FASCINATING!
Evidence emerging now that Cameron & Kerry are peddling malicious lies about Syria WMD
Also
Has any UK media explored the science & political culpability of UK supplying sarin precursor chemicals to Syria?
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Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
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If you want peace, prepare for war.
Our Martin with an excellent summary of the present situation

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Thierry Meyssan : The Western secret services are 100% sure of things that aren't logical :

1. They think that combat gases can make the difference between men and women.

2. They observed while the concoction of combat gas was being made, but did not intervene to avoid it's usage. On the other hand, they stepped forward to suggest punishing the ones who used it.

3. They explain that the children were killed on the 21st of August, while the video is dated from before that, and these children come from families that support the Syrian regime and Bashar el-Assad's government.

4. They assure they possess telephone call recordings. But they are not the ones who made those telephone interceptions.

5. And, finally, the ''red line'' affair. According to the joint committee of the British Intelligence service, Jon Day, Syria would have supposedly used combat gas 14 times in the past. But this was never confirmed. Why 14 times before ? Because it is the number of times the US government had use of chemical weapons in Iraq, in 2003-2004. And, of course, it would only be the 15th time of use that would lead the punishment exerted by the great powers.

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Russian Expose of Syrian Chemical Attack: Riyadh and Doha Paid, White House Approved, British Organized, Libyans Helped, Ukrainian Mercenaries Executed

Petr Lvov — NEO (New Eastern Outlook)
September 18, 2013

There’s no need in specifying all the details of the Assad regime alleged use of chemical weapons – all the facts have been covered a number of times. All the facts that have been properly stated in numerous publications are now covered with a thick layer of groundless accusations and therefore properly forgotten. But you don’t need a lot of facts to save the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov from making excuses.

It’s all so very clear. The chemical substances that were used against the civilians in Guta on August 21 were in fact produced in the Soviet Union. But they were shipped to Syria from Libya on by a security agency called BRITAMDefense. This operation was sponsored by the Syria’s archenemies – Qatar and Saudi Arabia. This was the reason why the British media on September 17 was the first to come across the “breaking news” that the chemical weapons that were used in Syria were of the Russian origin. Those news were not hard to come across since it was the British security firm that hired the Ukrainian mercenaries to set the Syrian government up, the operation was approved by the White House. There’s a lot of detailed analysis pieces published in New Eastern Outlook that explains who was behind the attack in Guta. Those who missed out on these can find out to themselves all the facts that the attack was an operation orchestrated by the White House and sponsored by the Wahabiite monarchies.
Anything beyond the facts is irrelevant. The Great Britain masterminds can be pushing blame for as long as they want, they’ve lost all credibility anyway when they tried to ship U.K. produced chemical weapons to Syria across the Turkey border and got their agents caught.

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France's Former Foreign Minister, Roland Dumas, has stated in a televised program on LCP that UK government officials had told him about preparations for war in Syria two years prior to the start of the 2011 protests and conflict. The reason given for this war is the Syrian government's anti-Israel stance that made Syria a target for Western-backed regime change.
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Syria: The Fabricated Evidence
There’s no need in specifying all the details of the Assad regime alleged use of chemical weapons – all the facts have been covered a number of times. All the facts that have been properly stated in numerous publications are now covered with a thick layer of groundless accusations and therefore properly forgotten. But you don’t need a lot of facts to save the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov from making excuses.
http://journal-neo.org/2013/09/18/rus-siriya-zapad-fal-sifitsiruet-fak ty-po-himoruzhiyu/

(MI6 provided Russian made sarin to the Syrian rebels from Libyan stockpiles and also started the war in the first place)

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Background on the reportand its authors here

http://medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/754-not-even- close-to-reality-filtering-sources-on-the-syrian-war.html

New analysis of rocket used in Syria chemical attack undercuts U.S. claims

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/01/15/5488779/new-analysis-of-rocket -used-in.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

A series of revelations about the rocket believed to have delivered poison sarin gas to a Damascus suburb last summer are challenging American intelligence assumptions about that attack and suggest that the case U.S. officials initially made for retaliatory military action was flawed.

A team of security and arms experts, meeting this week in Washington to discuss the matter, has concluded that the range of the rocket that delivered sarin in the largest attack that night was too short for the device to have been fired from the Syrian government positions where the Obama administration insists they originated.

Separately, international weapons experts are puzzling over why the rocket in question – an improvised 330mm to 350mm rocket equipped with a large receptacle on its nose to hold chemicals – reportedly did not appear in the Syrian government’s declaration of its arsenal to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and apparently was not uncovered by OPCW inspectors who believe they’ve destroyed Syria’s ability to deliver a chemical attack.

Neither development proves decisively that Syrian government forces did not fire the chemicals that killed hundreds of Syrians in the early morning hours of Aug. 21. U.S. officials continue to insist that the case for Syrian government responsibility for the attack in East Ghouta is stronger than any suggestion of rebel involvement, while experts say it is possible Syria left the rockets out of its chemical weapons declaration simply to make certain it could not be tied to the attack.

“That failure to declare can mean different things,” said Ralf Trapp, an original member of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and a former secretary of the group’s scientific advisory board. “It can mean the Syrian government doesn’t have them, or that they are hiding them.”

In Washington, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence said its assertion of Syrian government responsibility remains unchanged.

“The body of information used to make the assessment regarding the August 21 attack included intelligence pertaining to the regime’s preparations for this attack and its means of delivery, multiple streams of intelligence about the attack itself and its effect, our post-attack observations, and the differences between the capabilities of the regime and the opposition. That assessment made clear that the opposition had not used chemical weapons in Syria,” it said Wednesday in an email.

But the authors of a report released Wednesday said that their study of the rocket’s design, its likely payload and its possible trajectories show that it would have been impossible for the rocket to have been fired from inside areas controlled by the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

In the report, titled “Possible Implications of Faulty U.S. Technical Intelligence,” Richard Lloyd, a former United Nations weapons inspector, and Theodore Postol, a professor of science, technology and national security policy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, argue that the question about the rocket’s range indicates a major weakness in the case for military action initially pressed by Obama administration officials.

The administration eventually withdrew its request for congressional authorization for a military strike after Syria agreed to submit to the Chemical Weapons Convention, which bans the weapons. Polls showed overwhelming public opposition to a military strike, however, and it was doubtful Congress would have authorized an attack.

Lloyd and Postol’s report is the most recent installment in a months-long debate among rocket and weapons experts, much of it carried out in detailed papers posted on the Internet, about the nature of the munitions used in the Aug. 21 attack on rebel-controlled suburbs of Damascus.

The report’s authors admit that they deal only with one area of the attacks, the eastern suburb of Zamalka, where the largest quantity of sarin was released that night. They acknowledge that smaller rockets likely used in areas southwest of the capital could have come from government-controlled territory.

Relying on mathematical projections about the likely force of the rocket and noting that its design – some have described it as a trash can on a stick – would have made it awkward in flight, Lloyd and Postol conclude that the rocket likely had a maximum range of 2 kilometers, or just more than 1.2 miles. That range, the report explains in detail, means the rockets could not have come from land controlled by the Syrian government.

To emphasize their point, the authors used a map produced by the White House that showed which areas were under government and rebel control on Aug. 21 and where the chemical weapons attack occurred. Drawing circles around Zamalka to show the range from which the rocket could have come, the authors conclude that all of the likely launching points were in rebel-held areas or areas that were in dispute. The area securely in government hands was miles from the possible launch zones.

In an interview, Postol said that a basic analysis of the weapon – some also have described as a looking like a push pop, a fat cylinder filled with sarin atop a thin stick that holds the engine – would have shown that it wasn’t capable of flying the 6 miles from the center of the Syrian government-controlled part of Damascus to the point of impact in the suburbs, or even the 3.6 miles from the edges of government-controlled ground.

He questioned whether U.S. intelligence officials had actually analyzed the improbability of a rocket with such a non-aerodynamic design traveling so far before Secretary of State John Kerry declared on Sept. 3 that “we are certain that none of the opposition has the weapons or capacity to effect a strike of this scale – particularly from the heart of regime territory.”

“I honestly have no idea what happened,” Postol said. “My view when I started this process was that it couldn’t be anything but the Syrian government behind the attack. But now I’m not sure of anything. The administration narrative was not even close to reality. Our intelligence cannot possibly be correct.”

Lloyd, who has spent the past half-year studying the weapons and capabilities in the Syrian conflict, disputed the assumption that the rebels are less capable of making rockets than the Syrian military.

“The Syrian rebels most definitely have the ability to make these weapons,” he said. “I think they might have more ability than the Syrian government.”

Both said they were not making a case that the rebels were behind the attack, just that a case for military action was made without even a basic understanding of what might have happened.

For instance, they said that Kerry’s insistence that U.S. satellite images had shown the impact points of the chemical weapons was unlikely to be true. The charges that detonate chemical weapons are generally so small, they said, that their detonations would not be visible in a satellite image.

The report also raised questions whether the Obama administration misused intelligence information in a way similar to the administration of President George W. Bush in the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Then, U.S. officials insisted that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein had an active program to develop weapons of mass destruction. Subsequent inspections turned up no such program or weapons.

“What, exactly, are we spending all this money on intelligence for?” Postol asked.

As for the failure of the Syrians to list the rocket in its chemical weapons inventory, experts are undecided on what it means and leery about discussing it in public.

A spokeswoman for the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons in Damascus declined to comment on what was listed in the declaration. It would violate the Chemical Weapons Convention for anyone who has read the declaration – it’s distributed to all nations that have joined the treaty – to reveal its contents.

Knowledgeable experts said discussion of the apparent omission has been muted because no one wants to say anything that would disrupt what appears to have been the successful dismantling of Syria’s chemical weapons program.

Some say they are worried that the failure to declare one delivery system may also mean that other items went undeclared.

“The most likely explanation for some of the delivery systems not showing up on the chemical declaration is that Assad doesn’t want to incriminate himself or his regime,” said Daryl Kimball, the executive director of the Arms Control Association.

Jonathan S. Landay in Damascus, Syria, and Hannah Allam and Anita Kumar in Washington contributed to this report.

Email: mschofield@mcclatchydc.com;

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Seymour Hersh: Hillary Approved Sending Sarin Gas to Syrian Rebels
In a fascinating and important recent interview with Alternet, Hersh makes important new revelations
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The great investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, in two previous articles in the London Review of Books (“Whose Sarin?” and “The Red Line and the Rat Line”) has reported that the Obama Administration falsely blamed the government of Syria’s Bashar al-Assad for the sarin gas attack that Obama was trying to use as an excuse to invade Syria.

Hersh pointed to a report from British intelligence saying that the sarin that was used didn’t come from Assad’s stockpiles. Hersh also said that a secret agreement in 2012 was reached between the Obama Administration and the leaders of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to set up a sarin gas attack and blame it on Assad so that the U.S. could invade and overthrow Assad.

Hersh alleges that Chris Stevens, the American ambassador killed in Benghazi, was complicit in sending the gas to Syria, and that there is no way his boss Hillary didn't know about this
“By the terms of the agreement, funding came from Turkey, as well as Saudi Arabia and Qatar; the CIA, with the support of MI6, was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria.”

Hersh didn’t say whether these “arms” included the precursor chemicals for making sarin which were stockpiled in Libya, but there have been multiple independent reports that Libya’s Gaddafi possessed such stockpiles, and also that the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi Libya was operating a “rat line” for Gaddafi’s captured weapons into Syria through Turkey.

Hersh isn’t the only reporter who has been covering this. Indeed, the investigative journalist Christof Lehmann headlined on 7 October 2013, “Top US and Saudi Officials responsible for Chemical Weapons in Syria” and reported, on the basis of very different sources than Hersh used, that

“Evidence leads directly to the White House, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, CIA Director John Brennan, Saudi Intelligence Chief Prince Bandar, and Saudi Arabia´s Interior Ministry.”

And, as if that weren’t enough, even the definitive analysis of the evidence that was performed by two leading U.S. analysts, the Lloyd-Postal report, concluded that,

“The US Government’s Interpretation of the Technical Intelligence It Gathered Prior to and After the August 21 Attack CANNOT POSSIBLY BE CORRECT.”

Obama has clearly been lying.

However, now, for the first time, Hersh has implicated Hillary Clinton directly in this “rat line.” In an interview with Alternet from April 20, 2016, Hersh was asked about the then-U.S.-Secretary-of-State’s role in the Benghazi Libya U.S. consulate’s operation to collect weapons from Libyan stockpiles and send them through Turkey into Syria for a set-up sarin-gas attack, to be blamed on Assad in order to ‘justify’ the U.S. invading Syria, as the U.S. had invaded Libya to eliminate Gaddafi. Hersh said:
"That ambassador who was killed, he was known as a guy, from what I understand, as somebody, who would not get in the way of the CIA. As I wrote, on the day of the mission he was meeting with the CIA base chief and the shipping company. He was certainly involved, aware and witting of everything that was going on. And there’s no way somebody in that sensitive of a position is not talking to the boss, by some channel"

This was, in fact, the Syrian part of the State Department’s Libyan operation, Obama’s operation to set up an excuse for the U.S. doing in Syria what they had already done in Libya.

The interviewer then asked:

In the book [Hersh’s The Killing of Osama bin Laden, just out] you quote a former intelligence official as saying that the White House rejected 35 target sets [for the planned U.S. invasion of Syria] provided by the Joint Chiefs as being insufficiently painful to the Assad regime. (You note that the original targets included military sites only ­ nothing by way of civilian infrastructure.) Later the White House proposed a target list that included civilian infrastructure.

What would the toll to civilians have been if the White House’s proposed strike had been carried out?

Hersh responded by saying that the U.S. tradition in that regard has long been to ignore civilian casualties; i.e., collateral damage of U.S. attacks is okay or even desired (so as to terrorize the population into surrender) ­ not an ‘issue’, except, perhaps, for the PR people.


The interviewer asked why Obama is so obsessed to replace Assad in Syria, since "The power vacuum that would ensue would open Syria up to all kinds of jihadi groups”; and Hersh replied that not only he, but the Joint Chiefs of Staff, “nobody could figure out why.” He said, "Our policy has always been against him [Assad]. Period.”

This has actually been the case not only since the Party that Assad leads, the Ba’ath Party, was the subject of a shelved CIA coup-plot in 1957 to overthrow and replace it; but, actually, the CIA’s first coup had been not just planned but was carried out in 1949 in Syria, overthrowing there a democratically elected leader, in order to enable a pipeline for the Sauds’ oil to become built through Syria into the largest oil market, Europe; and,construction of the pipeline started the following year.

But, there were then a succession of Syrian coups (domestic instead of by foreign powers ­ 1954, 1963, 1966, and, finally, in 1970), concluding in the accession to power of Hafez al-Assad during the 1970 coup. And, the Sauds’ long-planned Trans-Arabia Pipeline has still not been built. The Saudi royal family, who own the world’s largest oil company, Aramco, don’t want to wait any longer.

Obama is the first U.S. President to have seriously tried to carry out their long-desired “regime change” in Syria, so as to enable not only the Sauds’ Trans-Arabian Pipeline to be built, but also to build through Syria the Qatar-Turkey Gas Pipeline that the Thani royal family (friends of the Sauds who own Qatar) want also to be built there.

The U.S. is allied with the Saud family (and with their friends, the royal families of Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, and Oman). Russia is allied with the leaders of Syria ­ as Russia had earlier been allied with Mossadegh in Iran, Arbenz in Guatemala, Allende in Chile, Hussein in Iraq, Gaddafi in Libya, and Yanukovych in Ukraine (all of whom except Syria’s Ba’ath Party, the U.S. has successfully overthrown).

Hersh was wrong to say that “nobody could figure out why” Obama is obsessed with overthrowing Assad and his Ba’ath Party, even if nobody that he spoke with was willing to say why. They have all been hired to do a job, which didn’t change even when the Soviet Union ended and the Warsaw Pact was disbanded; and, anyone who has been at this job for as long as those people were, can pretty well figure out what the job actually is ­ even if Hersh can’t.

Hersh then said that Obama wanted to fill Syria with foreign jihadists to serve as the necessary ground forces for his planned aerial bombardment there, and,

“if you wanted to go there and fight there in 2011-2013, ‘Go, go, go… overthrow Bashar!’ So, they actually pushed a lot of people [jihadists] to go. I don’t think they were paying for them but they certainly gave visas.”

However, it’s not actually part of America’s deal with its allies the fundamentalist-Sunni Arabic royal families and the fundamentalist Sunni Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, for the U.S. to supply the salaries (to be “paying for them,” as Hersh put it there) to those fundamentalist Sunni jihadists ­ that’s instead the function of the Sauds and of their friends, the other Arab royals, and their friends, to do. (Those are the people who finance the terrorists to perpetrate attacks in the U.S., Europe, Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, India, Nigeria, etc. ­ i.e., anywhere except in their own countries.)

Erdogan in Turkey mainly gives their jihadists just safe passage into Syria, and he takes part of the proceeds from the jihadists’ sales of stolen Syrian and Iraqi oil. But, they all work together as a team (with the jihadists sometimes killing each other in the process ­ that’s even part of the plan) ­ though each national leader has PR problems at home in order to fool his respective public into thinking that they’re against terrorists, and that only the ‘enemy’ is to blame. (Meanwhile, the aristocrats who supply the “salaries”of the jihadists, walk off with all the money.)

This way, U.S oil and gas companies will refine, and pipeline into Europe, the Sauds’ oil and the Thanis’ gas, and not only will Russia’s major oil-and-gas market be squeezed by that, but Obama’s economic sanctions against Russia, plus the yet-further isolation of Russia (as well as of China and the rest of the BRICS countries) by excluding them from Obama’s three mega-trade-deals (TTIP, TPP & TISA), will place the U.S. aristocracy firmly in control of the world, to dominate the 21st Century, as it has dominated ever since the end of WW II.

Then, came this question from Hersh: “Why does America do what it does? Why do we not say to the Russians, Let’s work together?” His interviewer immediately seconded that by repeating it, “So why don’t we work closer with Russia? It seems so rational.” Hersh replied simply: “I don’t know.” He didn’t venture so much as a guess ­ not even an educated one.

When journalists who are as knowledgeable as he is, don’t present some credible explanation to challenge the obvious lies (which make no sense , given the evidence) that come from people such as Barack Obama, aren’t they thereby ­ passively ­ participating in the fraud, instead of contradicting and challenging it?

Or, is the underlying assumption as follows: The general public is going to be as deeply immersed in the background information here as I am, so that they don’t need me to bring it all together for them into a coherent (and fully documented) whole, which does make sense? Is that the underlying assumption? Because: if it is, it’s false.

Hersh’s journalism is among the best (after all: he went so far as to say, of Christopher Stephens, regarding Hillary Clinton, “there’s no way somebody in that sensitive of a position is not talking to the boss, by some channel”), but it’s certainly not good enough. However, it’s too good to be published any longer in places like the New Yorker. And the reporting by Christof Lehmann was better, and it appeared even earlier than Hersh’s; and it is good enough, because it named names, and it explained motivations, in an honest and forthright way, which is why Lehmann’s piece was published only on a Montenegran site, and only online, not in a Western print medium, such as the New Yorker.

The sites that are owned by members of the Western aristocracy don’t issue reports like that ­ journalism that’s good enough. They won’t inform the public when a U.S. Secretary of State, and her boss the U.S. President, are the persons actually behind a sarin gas attack they’re blaming on a foreign leader the U.S. aristocrats and their allied foreign aristocrats are determined to topple and replace.

Is this really a democracy?

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I saw this video of Seymour Hersh yesterday:


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OH SNAP! Trump's New CIA Director Mike Pompeo DESTROYED Hillary Clinton At Benghazi Hearing

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a portion of the memo being circulated around the Congress, describing the crimes and investigations since 2012, and direct connection to the Obama-Eric Holder Justice Department-Clinton State Dept.:

(UNCLASSIFIED) BE ADVISED, Pursuant to 18 U.S. Code § 4, and 28 U.S. Code § 1361, you are hereby served notice of violations of 18 U.S. Code § 2339A - Providing material support to terrorists. See enclosed “whistleblower” [CLASSIFIED]......

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that pursuant to 18 U.S. Code § 2339A, whoever provides material support or resources or conceals or disguises the nature, location, source, or ownership of material support or resources, knowing or intending that they are to be used in preparation for, or in carrying out, a violation of section 32, 37, 81, 175, 229, 351, 831, 842(m) or 👎, 844(f) or (i), 930(c), 956, 1091, 1114, 1116, 1203, 1361, 1362, 1363, 1366, 1751, 1992, 2155, 2156, 2280, 2281, 2332, 2332a, 2332b, 2332f, 2340A, or 2442 of this title, section 236 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2284), section 46502 or 60123(b) of title 49, or any offense listed in section 2332b(g)(5)(B) (except for sections 2339A and 2339B) or in preparation for, or in carrying out, the concealment of an escape from the commission of any such violation, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both, and, if the death of any person results, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.

BE ADVISED, you are hereby serviced notice that, in fact, “the death of a person (s) has resulted” from this terrorist financing violation, and therefore satisfies the legal requirement for “imprisonment for any term of years or for life” in this instant matter.
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that through this letter we are respectfully requesting a debriefing with the President to 1) more fully and completely inform him and his legal team about these national security violations and crimes; 2) be issued a subpoena to testify (with immunity) and provide additional evidence to the DOJ-FBI, Inspector General, and Congressional investigations.

FAILURE TO REPLY
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that although not anticipated, due to the gravity of the national security implications, failure by your office to acknowledge or respond to this email/letter/ notice, or any attempt to “bury” or conceal or cause harm to it or this report or its author and agents, will be interpreted and prosecuted (civilly and criminally) as follows:
1) A flagrantly treasonous and conspiratorial attempt to “conceal the nature, location, source, and ownership of material support and resources” to terrorist individuals, networks, and operations, and as such an intentional violation of national and global security policies and laws; and
2) a willful and reckless disregard and violation of your government oath to “support and defend the Constitution”; and
3) an intentional act of misprision of a felony and misprision of treason against the United States of America and a violation of United Nations policies and statutes.
4) a conspiracy to commit racketeering, fraud, abuse of government authority, and other crimes.

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that failure by your office to respond to this notice and report will be interpreted and prosecuted as a violation of 18 U.S. Code § 2382 - Misprision of treason, which reads:
“Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.”

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that this formal notification of crimes, evidence, witnesses, and testimony confirming these crimes, and request for subpoena is hereby submitted FOR THE RECORD to the White House through the Congressional office of Representative Mark DeSaulnier (D-CA), and was originally recorded as an affidavit in his office on August 1, 2016. This material and witness identity and security clearance can also be confirmed by Senator Richard Black (R-VA), and other members of Congress and Department of Defense and State Department officials upon request.

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that your sworn Constitutional OATH as an employee, agent, or representative of government is hereby accepted FOR THE RECORD, and as such you are hereby notified of an urgent national security matter which requires your immediate official capacity action

AND IN ANOTHER PART:

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that this material was also shared with Senator Bill Nelson (D-Florida) and Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and the video of this can be reviewed upon your request.

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that in a response to this material, Senator Bill Nelson did write a letter to Diane Feinstein conspiring with her to use the Intelligence Committee to cover-up this terrorist financing report. This letter by Senator Nelson should be submitted by the White House to the Congressional investigators as evidence of “concealing or disguising the nature, location, source, or ownership of material support or resources, knowing or intending that they are to be used in preparation for, or in carrying out, a violation of 18 USC § 2339A.” See Exhibit 1. Also available here: https://books.google.com/books?id=_67VCQAAQBAJ&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=sen ator+bill+nelson+scott+bennett&source=bl&ots=VSfq0eXp_B&sig=Nhq1jhgusI 7pIsNIat_2mZBc2bs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXmNao_a3YAhUIiFQKHZpxDvcQ6AEI XTAI#v=onepage&q&f=false

A more detailed version of the affidavit may be reviewed at: https://youtu.be/8MZNbcS3A-g

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that we also request you share this letter and enclosed materials with appropriate Inspector General Offices and Congressional Committees, and immediately provide us with a subpoena to testify about this matter.

EXECUTIVE ORDER APPLICATION
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that this communication and debriefing is required to execute the President’s Executive Order issued on December 21, 2017: Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption. Specifically, these sections of the Order apply:
“…. corruption undermine the values that form an essential foundation of stable, secure, and functioning societies; have devastating impacts on individuals; weaken democratic institutions; degrade the rule of law; perpetuate violent conflicts; facilitate the activities of dangerous persons; (B) to be a current or former government official, or a person acting for or on behalf of such an official, who is responsible for or complicit in, or has directly or indirectly engaged in:
(1) corruption, including the misappropriation of state assets, the expropriation of private assets for personal gain, corruption related to government contracts or the extraction of natural resources, or bribery; or
(2) the transfer or the facilitation of the transfer of the proceeds of corruption;
(C) to be or have been a leader or official of:
(1) an entity, including any government entity, that has engaged in, or whose members have engaged in, any of the activities described in subsections (ii)(A), (ii)(B)(1), or (ii)(B)(2) of this section relating to the leader’s or official’s tenure;….”

NOTICE OF SERVICE AND REQUEST FOR SUBPOENA
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that for legal purposes, this communication serves as both “official notice” and “request for subpoena” given to you in your official and personal capacity as an employee or representative of the United States government about urgent U.S. national security information.

BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that this letter hereby communicates to your office actionable intelligence which must be immediately investigated, and is a “Request for Action” in a national security matter.
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that all rights are reserved for FOIA and legal purposes, and is privileged communication under international whistleblower, military, and intelligence community protections, and not to be shared without our express permission.

AND.......

GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IMPLICATED
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that this report contains names of present and former government officials, military and intelligence agency personnel, and analyzes their various illegal—and potentially treasonous—activities which must be investigated by authorities from the Congress, the White House, the Department of Defense Inspector General, the State Department Inspector General, and the Department of Justice Inspector General, as well as certain international law enforcement agencies.
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that government agencies and persons directly implicated in criminal activities in this report include:
• State Department: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; and State Department Coordinator for Counterterrorism.
• Central Intelligence Agency, Director John Brennan
• Department of Treasury (terrorist finance): Former Secretary of Treasury Tim Geitner
• U.S. Central Command, Terrorist Financing, MacDill Air Force Base
• Department of Justice: Former Attorney General Eric Holder, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
• Clinton Foundation attorney and member of Robert Mueller investigation team, Jeannie Rhee
BE ADVISED, you are hereby served notice that on July 27, 2016, Mr. XXXXX, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, received phone and email communications concerning terrorist financing intelligence involving international banks and Libyan terrorist intelligence confirmed by Michael Flynn, former national security advisor.
These communications were illegally surveilled by Obama administration officials at the FBI-CIA-NSA, and prompted them to fabricate false Russian collusion stories as propaganda countermeasures to these communications.

(CLASSIFIED) ........."

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