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BRITANNIAN KUNINGASHUONE & PRINSSI CHARLES PROFETIASSA!
ESKATOLOGIAN TUTKIJA JA KIRJAILIJA SAMUEL TUOMISEN VERKKOSIVUT
https://samueltuominen.com/2018/05/23/27-independent-reasons-why-i-bel ieve-prince-charles-is-the-biblical-antichrist/
27 independent reasons why I believe that Prince Charles is the biblical Antichrist.
TEKIJÄ SAMUEL TUOMINEN ON 23/05/2018
My father once requested that I would make an article where I list all the 27 different reasons why I believe that Prince Charles is the final Antichrist (1 John 2:18 says there are many antichrists, but only one the Antichrist). I made already such a listing in my 700-pages e-book summary, but here I’m trying to deal with each and every point in a little bit more detail. Without proper background information for each point – either biblical or other-, they can be easily twisted into a caricature. For this reason, I first presented my justifications in 12 Chapters of my book and after that, I made a short summary of my all arguments to intertwine its leads and to frame the complete overall picture. Of course, it is always easier to jump straight to the end of the book and look quickly at its summary. But in that case, the reader does not make a justification to the author or gets an appropriate picture of my book’s extensive arguments.
Note: This is an English translation of my Finnish article which you can find here: 27 itsenäistä syytä siihen miksi uskon Prinssi Charlesin olevan Raamatun Antikristus. A translation was made partly by Google and partly by manually (I also used Grammarly writing assistant for better English grammar). In this article, many links lead to my previous blog posts which are written in Finnish. You can translate them only with Google translation tool, but the quality is often very bad and misleading.
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Why is Prince Charles the most plausible Antichrist candidate at this moment?
This manifested well from a response I got on my book in September 2015. A certain person whose name I won’t mention – aka. Pekka Immonen – suggested that I should concentrate on former British Prime Minister Tony Blair instead of Charles. Our discussion soon went to my book 27 independent causes on behalf of Prince Charles. He wrote: ”Samuel’s prophecy fulfillment on pages 693-696, are over-interpreted trash. Sorry.” When I inquired into more specific reasons for such a harsh judgment, he went through all of my book’s summary of the prophecies and explained why he thought they were ”over-interpreted trash”. In fact, the only thing which was over-interpreted trash was his interpretation of my book’s summary.
I quickly noted that he had not read my entire book, but only its short summary and did not deny it either. He also complained about the lack of sources, although I specifically mentioned that detailed reasoning for each of the 27 prophecies, their fulfillment in Prince Charles, and their sources could be found in 12 Chapters of my book. You are free to criticize my book for many different reasons – I would rather rewrite it from start to finish – but such a ”straw man” which Immonen presented on my arguments was at least derogatory considering great effort I had put on my book. It was the result of ten years of research and two and a half years of writing. A straw man is a reference to ”an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be ’attacking a straw man.'” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)
Of course, in this article, it is not possible to comprehensively look over all of my book’s arguments in favor of Prince Charles. Handling each individual prophecy in detail would require a whole Chapter of the book. If one Chapter corresponds to 26 pages, then 27 prophecy fulfillment could comprise 702 pages. This is just one page more than my actual book. It has not been constructed, of course, in this way, and a more laconic person could have presented its reasoning in a much smaller space. But since I have already addressed my book’s numerous arguments in many previous blog posts, I put the link into them so you can read further if you need more specific information on my each and every claim. I try to handle each of the 27 prophecy fulfillment on one page so that my article would not stretch much longer than 27 pages. Let’s see how I succeed here (on one page I refer to the print scale 70, so if you print this article, make sure that the page’s output scale is not 100 where one page is equivalent to two).
Note. The conversation between me and Pekka is already on my homepage, so I do not see a problem to use this person’s name in this article. My intention is not to attack him personally. If you read this, Pekka, you are still my dear brother in Jesus Christ. Our dispute is only between issues, not between people. Our eschatological differences should not undermine the most important thing that unites us all as Christians, namely Jesus Christ, who is Head of the Body of Christ and the Savior of all Christians. As Jesus prayed, ”That they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.” (John 17:21)
Prophecy fulfillment #1
The first prophecy and its fulfillment in Prince Charles were following:
The Antichrist arises during that generation that sees Israel’s national revival (Ezek. 36:24: Matt. 24:32-34, 2 Thess. 2:4). Fulfillment: Prince Charles was born the same year as Israel became the independent nation from the British Empire in 1948; for the first time since the Kingdom of Israel and Judah and 2,500 years of diaspora.
Immonen’s brief and to the point of objection to this: ”Not found in the Bible”. Indeed, this was not in any way even controversial claim, as virtually all dispensationalists have endorsed it. Numerous prophecies on the Old and New Testament require Israel’s national revival, the return of Jerusalem to the Jews, and the third temple before the Antichrist’s 42 months reign and the Second Coming (and that all that should happen within one generation). These prophecies could be dealt with more broadly, but above I already mentioned three Scriptures in this area. This prophecy alone, of course, would be a very weak argument for Prince Charles, when he is hardly the only person on our planet who was born in or after 1948. But I also emphasized here, that he was born of the very Gentile nation which gave birth to the present Jewish state. There are perhaps millions in the United Kingdom who were born in 1948, so at this moment we are still on very thin ice (and no prophecy in Scriptures specifically requires that Antichrist should have been born in 1948). This prophecy (or prophecies) schedule the birth of the Antichrist to the time of Israel’s rebirth or later, and Prince Charles is thus suitable for this criterion.
Prophecy fulfillment #2
Prophecy: The Antichrist is a prince within the boundaries of the ancient Roman Empire (Dan. 9: 26-27). Fulfillment: Charles is the Prince of Wales (England and Wales belonged to the north-western provinces of Roman Empire).
Immonen’s objection: ”Where is the connection to Prince Charles?”, quoting after that Daniel’s Chapter 9 of the prince who ”shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate”. It is clear that a layman, who is not familiar with the interpretation of the prophetic Scriptures, may not understand here the explicit reference point. Precisely for this reason, I explored in my book so thoroughly Daniel’s prophesies like the 70 weeks and others. There is not so much controversy in this argument either. In practice, all dispensationalists prophecy teachers say that Dan. 9:27 is the prophecy of the Antichrist. To deal with this matter with more precise details would, of course, require many additional pages, but suffice it to say that some of the earliest Church Fathers taught Dan. 9:27 as the prophecy of the Antichrist. This was taught, for example, by Bishop Irenaeus (Against Heresies, Book 5, Chapter 25), who lived in the First Century AD. Irenaeus was a disciple of Polycarp who, in turn, was a disciple of Apostle John whose letters are only in the Bible, of which the word ”Antichrist” has become to common usage. Thus it is not a new doctrine but the very original one that our Lord himself upheld when He said:
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains… For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. – Matt. 24:15-16, 21
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Roman Empire in 69, a year before the temple was destroyed. According to the map, present Wales was not yet a part of the Roman Empire but its conquest began in 43 AD and was completed by the year 79 when Titus became the Emperor of Rome. Titus was also personally involved in the Conquest of Britain.
On the ”abomination of desolation” Jesus refers here to such passages in the Book of Daniel as Dan. 9:27 and 11:31. These Scriptures speak of the Antichrist whose coming He attaches to the Day of His Second Coming. The context of Dan 9:27 associates this person to preceding verse about ”the people of the prince that shall come [and] shall destroy the city and the sanctuary”. This verse referred to Prince Titus and his people to the Romans. Titus destroyed the city of Jerusalem and its temple in 70 AD. This was the beginning of the Jewish diaspora which lasted nearly two millennia. Verse 27 does not speak of Titus but the coming Antichrist, as Irenaeus also understood in the First Century AD. Sir Robert Anderson, who was knighted by Queen Victoria, published in 1881 a book called The Coming Prince, which had a significant impact on the dispensationalist prophecy school of the 20th Century. The rest of my claim is unquestionable historical fact. England and Wales also belonged to the old Roman Empire, so Charles is thus a prince within boundaries of ancient Roman Empire, like Dan. 9:27 seems to hint. But the next prophecy takes this picture into more precise details about the national origin of the Antichrist.
Prophecy fulfillment #3
Prophecy: Antichrist is associated with ”the people of the prince that shall come [and] shall destroy the city and the sanctuary”, i.e. to the Prince of Romans (Dan. 9:27, Luke 21:20). Fulfillment: After Germanic tribes invaded the Western Roman Empire, Wales maintained its independence and Roman heritage yet for many Centuries; for this reason, its name derives from the old Germanic word which means ”Romans”. Thus, the title ”Prince of Wales” signifies etymologically and also ethnically the Prince of Romans.
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Wales (Roman Wales) and the Eastern Roman Empire at the end of Heraclius’ reign in 633 – which was also predicted in the Book of Daniel – just before the Arab conquest. In 410, the Western Roman Emperor Honorius handed over to the British their independence in order to focus on defending continental Europe from the Germans. With the exception of Wales, the entire Western Empire was captured by the Germans, while Eastern Empire was absorbed eventually by the Arabs and the Turks.
Here I refer to Dan. 9:26-27 and at its parallel passage, Luke 21:20, which both connects the Antichrist to Titus and thus to the Romans. He is therefore not only a prince who will rise within the boundaries of ancient Roman Empire (what also Dan 7:24 insist), but he must also be specifically the Prince of Romans like Titus was. Thus this prophecy seems to exclude those areas within Roman Empire which belong today to Arabs, Turks or Slavic nationalities. In other words, the whole area around the Mediterranean, which once belonged to the Eastern Roman Empire (note: In my book, I have also dealt with details such topic as the ”Assyrian Antichrist” which explains why he should arise from the parts of Eastern Roman Empire, or modern Syria, see prophecy fulfillment #7 and . Alongside with Italy, all those peoples of Europe who speak Romanic languages, heirs to the ancient Latin, could be seen today as heirs to the ancient Roman peoples. This includes countries such as France, Spain, Portugal, and Romania. Germany, England, and Sweden belong to the Germanic peoples and Germanic linguistic groups. Nevertheless, even the Romanic peoples of Europe are not purely the heirs of ancient Romans. During the Migration Period of Fifth Century, the Germanic tribes that came from the Scandinavian and Germania occupied the entire Western Empire.
The present peoples of Europe are the heirs of those ancient Germanic tribes of Western Europe. Visigoths and Sueves settled to current Spain and Portugal, Ostrogoths to Italian peninsula, Franks to modern France and Gebids, among others, to modern Romania. All of them were Germanic peoples. With the collapse of Western Roman Empire in 476, they formed those ten kingdoms of Rome, which Daniel 7:24 saw beforehand. This is an issue I have dealt in details here (from biblical and historical perspective). The only people who maintained their independence and Roman traditions for centuries after the Germanic invasions were the Welsh people. Unlike Anglo-Saxons, Wales is part of Celtic peoples as well as Scotland and Ireland. So they are not actually a Roman people (if you mean by the ”Romans” merely of ancient Italians), but Wales was a part of ancient Roman Empire and retained Roman culture and traditions for centuries after the Germanic Migration Period. That is why they called them in their Germanic neighborhood the ”Welsh people” which is Germanic root word for the Wales and Cornwall and which meant ”Romans”.
As web article The Dragon and the Eagle says: ”It is cognate to Waalsch (the Dutch word for the Walloons, their Romance-speaking neighbours in Belgium), to Welsche (until recently the German word for all their Romance-speaking neighbours, still used in Swiss German for French-speakers in Switzerland, and by German-speakers in the Tyrol for Italians), and to Wallachia (the part of Romania bordering on German-speaking settlements in Hungary)”. Charles’s second most renowned title after the Prince of Wales is the Duke of Cornwall. The word ”Duke” is derived directly from the Latin word dux, which meant a military leader, a commander, or a provincial governor of Rome. Thus Charles’s two most important titles refer to the Roman Prince and the Roman military commander, such as Titus was when he led the Roman armies against Jerusalem in 70 AD. Along with some other Scriptures, Daniel 9:27 also excludes the origin of the Antichrist in the Middle East, and thus refutes the theory of the Assyrian Antichrist (see also prophecy fulfillment #6 and #. Immonen’s objection to this was again compelling: ”Where’s the link with Prince Charles?”
Interesting side note: Prince Charles was born 666 years after Edvard I conquered Wales in 1282. Edvard I was the father of Prince Edward II, the first Prince of Wales. Edward II was born in the Caernarfon Castle. There was also held the investiture of Prince Charles as the Prince of Wales in 1969, which is related to prophecy fulfillment #17
Note. For more detailed information on Daniel’s vision of the 70 weeks, see my article here .
Prophecy fulfillment #4
Prophecy: Many Bible verses calls the Antichrist as a ”man” (Dan. 7:8, 2 Thess. 2:3, Rev. 13:1. Fulfillment: Name ”Charles” is derived from an ancient Germanic word for a man.
Immonen’s objection: ”Where is the source? The word ’ruler’ can also be translated as’ Prince ’and’ the man ’in the power, establishment, those in authority, the man.'” The source of the etymological origin of name ”Charles” can be found here: https://www.behindthename.com/name/charles. At this point, I do not even understand Immonen’s objection as this prophecy fulfillment related to the expression ”man” used of the Antichrist. When Jesus is called the Son of Man (Dan 7:13, Matt. 24:30, Rev. 1:13), the Antichrist is called a man. For example, I mentioned three Bible passages on the generally recognized Antichrist prophecies. Dan. 7: 8 says: ”I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man [Charles], and a mouth speaking great things.” 2 Tess. 2:3 says, ”Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man [Charles] of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” Revelation 13:18 says, ”Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man [Charles]; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”
I admit that an argument of this short on its own would be very weak on behalf of Prince Charles, but my faith is not based on any individual prophecy fulfillment, but a sum of their all. This should be categorized rather to the section of ”interesting coincidences”. In Biblical times, the names that were given to children always had some prophetic meaning. For example, the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yeshua, is a verbal derivative of the word ”to save, to deliver.” In the gospel of Matthew, the angel told Joseph: ”And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS [Yeshua]: for he shall save his people from their sins.” (Matthew 1:21) It must also be mentioned that the Antichrist was unveiled already in the extra-biblical prophecies of the Middle Ages as a Western-European prince whose name would be Charles, but since such prophecies do not come directly from the Bible, I left them out of the prophecies of these 27 prophecy fulfillment. I will return to this issue later. The next prophecy fulfillment is one of the most important biblical criteria for any Antichrist candidate and one of the most important justifications for Prince Charles.
Prophecy fulfillment #5
Prophecy: The name of the Antichrist should count up 666 by using Greek-Hebrew gematria (Rev. 13:1. Fulfillment: Prince Charles’ official title Charles, Prince of Wales, sums up 666 both in English and Hebrew by using the decimal system of Hebrew-Greek gematria (what earliest Church Fathers also used).
Immonen’s objection to this was again completely silly: ”Also Bill Gates, Barack Obama, the current Pope, etc. count up 666”. If the names of dozens of dead and still alive people can be derived the number 666 by using several different calculation methods, does it mean that the correct method of calculation does not exist then? So how can we count the Number of the Beast when the right Antichrist appears? This kind of answer shows the same intellectual laziness as the atheists’ objection that the Bible cannot be inspired by Almighty God when there are so many contradictory interpretations, or that Jesus cannot return to earth as expected for 2000 years since it has been subjected to a number of misguided predictions. Such an answer reminds me of the famous fairy tale of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. It is an instructive story of lying but is also well suited to the eschatological context. People – including the saints of Christ – have heard so often the false alarm about the wolf (ie. Antichrist) so now that they also ignore the right warnings of the real wolf.
But if there is a pseudo-science, then why can not we talk about pseudo-eschatology as well? As if all Bible interpretation would be on the same line and no one could distinguish the wrong interpretations from the right. Most of the examples where the names of different persons are counted 666 are very artificial and non-biblical. Immonen mentions, for example, Barack Obama, Bill Gates and the current Pope. Obama’s full name Barack Hussein Obama does not get on the biblical gematria – number system where every letter of the alphabet corresponds to a particular number – number 666 but 793. That number 666 is calculated by using the difference (subtraction) between Barack Hussein Obama and Obama’s childhood nickname Barry Soetoro (Obama’s Indonesian stepfather surname was Soetero). The numerical value of that last mentioned is 1458, so 1458-793 is not actually 666 but 665. Advocates of this theory may say that if you include number 793, you get 666 between those two numbers.
As for Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft and the richest man in the world, his name has been transformed to 666 by using the ASCII code for ”Bill Gates III”. ASCII code is American Standard Code for Information Interchange which way our computers communicate with each other and internally. But this belongs more to the myths of the Internet era, which have been repeated on several websites over and over again, and no one has been bothered to find out the truth about it. The ASCII code for BILL GATES (in capital letters) generates a numeric value of 663. The Number of the Beast has been obtained by adding III or 3. However, in ASCII code III does not represent 3 but 147 (if the Roman number I corresponds to number 1 in the keyboard) or 219 (if I correspond to the capital letter I in the keyboard). Thus, BILL GATES III has a numeric value of either 810 or 882. Additionally, why does this counting method ignore his full name William Henry ”Bill” Gates III?
I am not even aware of current Pope’s name alleged 666 connection, but I bet that you end up there with just as stupid calculation methods as in the aforementioned examples. I know already that the Vicarius Filii Dei (Representative of the Son of God), a title that was used by Popes for several centuries, forms 666 in Roman numerals. The popes apparently noticed this (when the Protestants brought it out in their anti-Papacy writings) and thought it was a bad PR for their institution when they changed it to Vicarius Christi or substitute of Christ (whom the Pontiffs have called themselves since Innocentius III). This didn’t help much their case as name ”antichrist” in New Testament literally means substitute or surrogate Christ (alongside opposite Christ). The Pope (or rather the Papal institution) is one of the many prophecied antichrists in the Bible, as I have already argued in my book with historical details. The Pope, however, is not the First Beast of the Revelation, whose name count up 666 (the pope is much more likely to fill the place of the Second Beast of Revelation).
Immonen ignores the fact I already emphasized in this prophecy fulfillment; that the title of Prince Charles sums up 666 by using the Greek-Hebrew decimal -system where Revelation 13:18 refers in its original context. At the time of St. John there was no computers or ASCII code. John’s lifetime, the most widely spoken language in the Church was neither Latin but Greek and the roots of the Church were in Judaism. For this reason, Johannes refers to the Greek-Hebrew number system that was most commonly known to Christians of his lifetime, and where the first letter of the alphabet corresponded to number 1, the second letter to number 2, the third letter to number 3, … The 10th letter to number 10, 11th letter to number 20, 12th letter to number 30,… 19th letter to number 100, 20th letter to number 200, 21st letter to number 300, etc. Since there are only 22 letters in Hebrew alphabet, the maximum value was 400.
GematriaChart-Nov01-bwIn this method – applied to the English alphabet – the official title of Prince Charles, Charles, Prince of Wales, calculates the Number of the Beast 666. Letter ”W” is the 23rd letter of the English alphabet, so it is more faithful to the original Hebrew gematria to count its value to zero instead of 500. If its numerical value would be 500, Charles, Prince of Wales would not add up number 666 but instead 1166. Furthermore, Charles’ Hebrew name צרלס, נסיך מוילס – the Greek word for ”name” in Revelation 13:17 is an onoma, which refers equally to the titles of rulers – counts also 666 as the adjacent chart shows, and as the Messianic Jew Monte Judah already noticed at the beginning of the 80s when he visited in Israel and saw how his title was written in Hebrew newspapers. However, to be honest, I have noted that Charles’ title in the Hebrew spelling, for example, in Wikipedia, and many Hebrew websites does not correspond to the way it is written in Tim Cohen’s book The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea. I personally asked this Tim Cohen, who emailed me the following answer:
Shalom Samuel,
Actually, you raise a very good question, and it has surprised me over the years that others have not similarly raised it. This said, it is a question I have addressed in detail in the upcoming second edition of The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea. You may rely upon the spelling that Monte and I have given, as it is actually correct, whereas Wikipedia is not. Beyond this, I also address issues surrounding trying to calculate the name in Greek in the second edition, and why that is highly problematic and impractical, irrespective of spelling in Greek. As for Monte, may God bless him, he probably did not answer because he probably does not know the answer, likely not having looked at the Wikipedia spelling nor considered it. I believe it is true to say that I know a great deal more on many subjects, including that of Prince Charles as the foretold AntiChrist, than Monte, though The LORD did use him to point me in Prince Charles’ direction in 1987, and he is to be credited as the individual, so far as I can tell, who first knew that Prince Charles is the foretold AntiChrist on the basis of hard evidence. Some of my forthcoming books are going to shake the entire world,and all of those books together cover a great deal more than just Prince Charles, as important as he is.
Yours in Messiah Yeshua,
Note: If you copy this Hebrew version of Charles name צרלס, נסיך מוילס and put it to Google Translate, it translates to Charles, Prince of Wales. So I assume that Tim Cohen is right. You can also visit this website: http://www.ridingthebeast.com/gematria-calculator/ and check out for yourself that it counts up 666 in Hebrew gematria. Other note: One mentioned to me after I published this article in Finnish that 666 (χξϛ) is not original Number of the Beast but instead 616 (χιϛ) as some early manuscripts of Revelation 13 from Third Century has shown (like Papyrus 115). But Irenaeus already knew this χιϛ spelling and argued against it in his book Adversus Haereses (Against Heresies) which was written some 80 years after the Book of Revelation. As this website put it: ”For external testimony to the correctness of the 666 reading, Irenaeus cites both the presence of 666 in the best and most ancient texts available to him and the explicit approval of this reading by ’those men who saw John face to face.’ Therefore, in the face of appeals Irenaeus regards the reading 666 as sufficiently well established and sufficiently significant to result in deleterious consequences for those who opt for the alternative 616; Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 5.30.2)”.
Prophecy fulfillment #6
Prophecy: Dan. 9:27, Dan. 7:8 and Rev. 17:9-13 accociates the Antichrist with the Roman Emperors. Fulfillment: As a descendant of Charles the Great, Prince Charles has the legal right to the crown of the Holy Roman Emperors.
Immonen’s objection: ”The prince has a legal right to the crown of the Holy Roman Emperors. Where you find this from the Bible?” Maybe Immonen would not be so puzzled if he had really read my book. My book title is Muhammad, Charles the Great and the Antichrist because the guiding principle of its content was that Antichrist should be both the direct offspring of Muhammad and Charles the Great and the heir of their power. My book thus combines the idea of Islamic and European Antichrist. It was difficult to maintain this lead story throughout the writing process when its content became fragmented into so many different topics, but this is the central message that connects my book from its first chapter to the last. This was also a key idea in Chapters 10-11 where I reconciled the prophetic interpretation of the historicistic and futuristic traditions.
Early Reformers, who represented the tradition of historicism, taught that antichrist is manifested in both the Roman Pope and the Islamic caliphate of Turkish Ottoman Empire. Some modern prophecy teachers, such as Roman Catholic Walid Shoebat, put these two against each other and see antichrist being represented only in Islam. He also teaches the theory of the Assyrian Antichrist, which has gained an increasing foothold among many modern prophecy teachers who represent the tradition of futurism and dispensationalism. According to my own book, a question is not whether one or the other is the right interpretation, since both schools are on the right track, but they both miss the big picture. The most important clue for this prophetic puzzle is finally found when we reconcile the eschatological traditions of historicism and futurism, as I have demonstrated in Chapters 10 and 11 (which is divided into sections A, B, and C).
In the Middle Ages, the office of Roman Emperors continued in the Holy Roman Empire with the political support of Roman Papacy. From Charles the Great to Charles V each of the rulers of the Holy Roman Empire was crowned by the popes with the title of ancient Roman Emperors. From time to time, the power of the Pope was greater than the Emperor, and sometimes they were also at war with each other. But together, they formed the most important power system in the Middle Ages. With Reformation, the power of the Holy Roman Empire began to crumble and broke up in the early 19th Century when Napoleon I gave the ultimate kiss of death to its millennial rule.
Immonen asks where the Bible says that the Antichrist is the Emperor of Rome. I mentioned those Scriptures already in this prophecy fulfillment, but he did not even bother to find out about them. Daniel 9:27 as mentioned earlier is one of these. This verse connects the Antichrist to Titus, who was later also Roman Emperor. Daniel 7: 8 also connects him with the Roman Empire, where the prophecy associates him with the Little Horn that would rise after ten kings of the Fourth Beast (i.e. Roman Empire). Rev. 17:9 attach his kingdom and his throne with ”Seven Hills of the Rome”, as this prophecy has been understood since the early Church Fathers. Then there is also the prophecy of Daniel 7 and the Little Horn which refers to in its first fulfillment phase to the rise of Papal Power in 8th Century AD (as I already have reasoned in my book and here).
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Papacy (Daniel’s Little Horn) rose after those ten kings of Rome which were foretold in Daniel 7 (and predicted by most early Church Fathers) in its first fulfillment phase. Some modern dispensationalists and futurists have said that there were never those ten kings in Roman history but this is simply false as this chart shows (Rome in 476 after the collapse of Western Roman Empire).
It was at this time when Charles the Great, also known as ”Father of Europe”, was crowned the Emperor of Rome by Pope Leo III. Since Little Horn of Daniel 7 is a prophecy of the Antichrist, therefore its first fulfillment in the papacy would make it (and with it also the rulers of the Holy Roman Empire like Charles the Great) to the paragon and archetype of the final Antichrist person. Prince Charles is a direct descendant of Charles the Great and thus legitimate heir to his Crown. It was also foretold in many prophecies of the Middle Ages in the writings of Roman Catholic mystics that the Antichrist would be a Western European prince who will descend directly from the bloodline of Charles the Great and whose name would be Charles. Following is from website http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p026.html (emphasis mine)
These writers have included Caesar of Arles (469-543), and the Blessed Rabanus Maurus(d.856) is quoted as ’Our principal doctors agree in announcing to us that towards the end of time one of the descendants of the Kings of France shall reign over all the Roman Empire; and that he shall be the greatest of the French Monarchs and the last of his race’. These eminent doctors understand him to lay down his crown and sceptre in Jerusalem also when this will signify the end of the Roman and Christian Empires. This is repeated by Monk Adso (d.992), who states that ’This will be the end and consummation of the Empire of Rome and immediately afterwards Antichrist will come’. The Chronicle of Magdeburg (12th century?) is quoted ’Of the blood of the Emperor Charles the Great and the King of France shall arise as Emperor named Charles who shall rule imperially in Europe, by whom the decayed estate of the Church shall be reformed and the ancient glory of the Empire again restored.’ Aystinger – the German (also in the 12th century) places this prince in the last times, who is sprung from the Emperor Charles. He is to recover the land of promise, i.e. the promised land Jerusalem, and reform the church as Emperor of Europe.
It is not at all surprising that Prince Charles descends from Charles the Great of the Frankish Carolingian dynasty. All the royals in Europe do. I’m amused when those who are interested in their family background are so excited when they find that there is some royal blood in their genealogy. According to genealogists, almost every person in the earth descends from the Royals. It is thought that every European would be in one way or another related to Charles the Great or his direct offspring. I would not be so proud of if one of my grandfathers belonged to British Royal Family, who used to punish their foes by cutting off their genitals and removing their viscera one by one in front of the condemned own eyes. I am rather the offspring of poor peasants than ruthless tyrants. However, what distinguishes Prince Charles from the peasantry is that he has a verified consanguinity with Charles the Great because the family trees of royal families of Europe are carefully recorded and goes back to royal families of the ancient world.
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The book of internationally recognized scholars Tom Horn and Cris Putnam, which associates the medieval prophecies of the Final Roman Emperor with the biblical Antichrist. Horn and Putnam, however, can not associate these prophecies with Prince Charles even though in them it is specifically mentioned that the Final Roman Emperor would be a prince whose name is Charles and who is offspring Charles the Great.
Secondly, these prophecies say that the Antichrist would also have the forename of his forefather Charles the Great and that he would be the prince who rises to the Emperor of revived Roman Empire. According to these prophecies, this prince would inherit the whole splendor of the former Roman Empire. Christian scholars Thomas Horn and Cris Putnam addressed in more details these medieval prophecies related to the Last Roman Emperor in their book The Final Roman Emperor and Vatican’s Last Crusade. I wrote them in August 2016 almost 30 pages letter, but because they did not respond to it, I decided to publish it on my tab in English. Tim Cohen, however, answered my letter and promised to advertise it to others. In this article, I note one of the things that Horn and Putnam had mentioned in their own book on page 260. They mentioned the prophecy of Bartholomew Holzhauser, who lived in the 17th Century, according to which the Last Roman Emperor would be ”a descendant of Louis IX [of France] yet a descendant also of an old German imperial family, born in exile. He will rule supreme in temporal matters.” ” I mentioned to them the fact that Prince Charles is also the direct descendant of Louis IX and his family belong to the old German Royal Family of Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha. Are you starting to be already convinced that Prince Charles is the Biblical Antichrist? Hopefully, you do not. This was just the beginning. There is still 21 other prophecy fulfillment in front.
Prophecy fulfillment #7
Prophecy: Dan. 8:8-9 – in its first and second fulfillment – link the Antichrist with the King of Greece, heir to the Alexander the Great and Emperor Heraclius of Eastern Roman Empire (in fact medieval Grecian Empire which was foreseen in Daniel 7, 8 and 11). In its first phase the vision about the Little Horn of Daniel 8 fulfilled in Antiochos Epiphanes of Seleucide Empire and in its second phase the Little Horn of Daniel 8 fulfilled in Turkish Ottoman Empire, successor state of the Byzantine Empire. So the final Antichrist (the Little Horn of Daniel is connected those both modern Greece and modern Islamic world. Fulfillment: Prince Charles descends from his father’s side of the Royal House of the modern Greece. He descends also from ”Prophet” Muhammad and is well-known pro-arabist and the defender of Islam (possibly a Christian apostate who may have turned to Sufism, Islamic mysticism, whose conversion some Islamic eschatologists has already seen the decisive sign of the closeness of Mahdi’s appearance).
Note: Much of my prophecy interpretations like this are already reasoned and justified with very systematic and thorough historical demonstration and Scriptural validation in my 700 pages book. In many cases, I have used several hundred pages of my book to justify prophecy interpretations like this one. Without more detailed understanding into this, these prophecy fulfillments may not say much to my English readers or those Finnish readers who have not read my book. Unfortunately, my e-book is only available in the Finnish language. Finnish readers of my book have already endorsed my ideas saying that reasoning behind my prophecy interpretation was coherent and convincing, and they also thought it was the most interesting part of my book. See prophecy fulfillment #25.
Re-reading of those Immonen’s so-called ”objections” is the most entertaining part of this writing. His answers to me are mainly comedic entertainment, as he is completely unaware how deep my research really is. At this point, it was, ”Where in the Bible we found that Prince Charles is the believer in Islam and the precursor of their Mahdi?” Here Immonen also misunderstood what I wrote. I did not say that the Antichrist should be the precursor for Mahdi (a Messiah of Islamic eschatology). I said that some teachers of Islamic Sufism have taught how Prince Charles is the harbinger of Mahdi’s coming reign (see, for example, this). I went through my book to document Prince Charles’s decades-old love affair with Islam and the Arab world. This love is not only one-sided but also resonates in the Muslim world where Prince Charles has been reported to be the most admired person in the West. Some Islamic scholars, like Sheikh Nazim Al-Haqqani, have been so excited about Charles’s Islamic devotion and the alleged conversion to Islam that they have said he is a man who would gain a place of honor in Mahdi’s worldwide administration (here you can see how his disciple Hisham Kabbani bows before Prince Charles).
Immonen asks where the Bible predicts the Antichrist to be Islamic. I do not know whether he is aware of the eschatological school that teaches him to be an Islamic Shiite or a Sunni Muslim and the Incarnation of their expected Mahdi. Whole books have been written for this theory, so maybe he should first order a few books related to this and return to the same question after reading them. I already addressed this theory in my book, what Immonen would know if he just would have read my book. In fact, I did not say in my book that the Antichrist should be a Muslim, whether Shi’a, Sunni or Sufi, a radical Salafist or a moderate. On the contrary, I have argued, for example, from 1 John 2:19, that Antichrist should come from ”us”, that is, a Christian Church. Prince Charles is still a member of Anglican Church and comes to its head after he takes the throne. In my book, in Chapter 4, I explicitly rejected this theory of fanatical Muslim Antichrist. I also rejected, in Chapter 3, the idea of his Middle Eastern origin (and argued this with deep Scriptural illustration).
In fact, the Book of Daniel in Chapter 8 and 11 connect the national origin of the Antichrist not to Syria, but to Greece and thus the Western civilization which is heir to ancient Greece (Dan. 8:9 also says that his power will ”exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land”, i.e. the Land of Israel, meaning that his nation of origin is in Europe where the Land of Israel is ”toward the south, and toward the east”, i.e. toward southeast). In its first fulfillment, this vision of the Little Horn of Daniel, fulfilled, of course, in Antiochus Epiphanes, as most of the prophecy scholars know this. Antiochus Epiphanes was also a Greek origin and not the Middle-Eastern origin, as verses 9 and 22 predicted. But there is also second and third historic fulfillment for this vision, as I have demonstrated in my book in details. In its second phase, this vision refers to medieval Greece (i.e. Byzantine Empire) and Sasanian Persian Empire. A notable horn between goat’s eyes refers to Emperor Heraclius, whose reign (610 – 641) preceded the rise of Islam, which was also foretold in Daniel 8 and 11 (in their second fulfillment phase).
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Antiochus Epiphanes, the first paragon for the final Antichrist, rose from the ancient Greece heir to Alexander the Great as Daniel 8:9 predicted. Prince Charles’ national origins are not only in Western Civilization, which is heir to ancient Greece, but he is also heir to the throne of modern Greece through his father Philip, former Greek prince.
Vision predicts also rise of the Ottoman Empire, which rose within Byzantine Empire and came eventually to its Islamic successor state. Ottoman Empire was the Little Horn of vision’s second fulfillment phase as a Papacy in Western Europe was the Little Horn of Daniel 7 in its first fulfillment phase. Those both were successors to the Eastern and Western Rome of Antiquity. This was basically a classical eschatological view of early Reformers from 14th Century to 19th Century. I have illustrated its historical and Scriptural validity in my book’s Chapters 10 and 11. I demonstrated this also in my three-part prophecy teaching series (see link on below). The fulfillment of the prophecy is not only in Charles’s unusual devotion for Islam and in the fact that he descends directly from Muhammad – as the Muslim scholars say about Mahdi – but also in that that he is a legitimate heir to the Greek throne because his father Philip was in his youth the Greek Prince. Both Prince Philip and Prince Charles have maintained close contact with Greece until today, and they are regular guests on the Mount Athos.
Read more: How the 2500-year history of Persia, Greece, and Israel has been foretold in Chapter 11 of Book of Daniel? Part 2: Antiquity/Middle Ages (164 BC – 1517 AD)
Prophecy interpretation #8
Prophecy: The Antichrist is also associated with the Syria/Babylon (Isaiah 14:4-25). Fulfillment: England represents end-time parallel for ancient Babylon (Dan. 7:4); The king of Babylon in Isa. 14:4-25 therefore means the king of UK. Some believe that the Anglo-American world power (end-time Babylon) moves its economic and political hegemony to Iraq as a fulfillment of Zech. 5:11. See prophecy fulfillment #7
Immonen’s objection: ”It may be true if you forget New York as the end-time Babylon and economic hegemony is transferred to the ruins.” This is a little strange objection, but basically, Immonen says that I am right if the end-time Babylon is not New York as many believe. I am a little reluctant to believe here mentioned prophetic theory what many Christians support; that the Anglo-American world power would shift the global economic power concentration to the Middle East according to (interpretation of) Zech. 5:11. However, if Islam plays a significant role in Antichrist’s future reign, – as prophecy fulfillment #7 indicates – such a scenario is not completely excluded. Many prophecies in the Bible – most notably Isa. 14:13 – attach the Antichrist to the King Babylon (some passages also refer to him as ”Assyrian”).
In a literal sense, these passages can also be also understood in such a way that the Antichrist moves his government and royal palace eventually to the Middle East. Some Bible verses indicate already in this direction (see, for example, Dan. 11:45 and Revelation 12:1. However, according to an alternative interpretation, this can also be understood in the sense that ”Babylon” in Isa. 14.13, etc., does not refer to ancient Babylon of modern Iraq, but instead the Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17-18. According to those Chapters Babylon has been called as the center of global economy and as a city ”which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” This can hardly be said of ancient Babylon – which is still on its ruins – or any Middle Eastern city (except perhaps of Dubai). Many think incorrectly that New York City would be best suited to the role of economic Babylon of Revelation 18. But in the Book of Daniel Babylon is represented in the lion with wings of an eagle. As I have illustrated in my book, this prophecy refers to Anglo-American world power in the third fulfillment of this vision. The lion represents the lion of England and eagle the eagle of USA (see How the 2500-year history of Persia, Greece, and Israel has been foretold in Chapter 11 of Book of Daniel? Part 3: Modern Age/Tribulation (1517 – 2023?)).
It was only Jewish Prime Minister of British history, Benjamin Disraeli, who said, ”London is a modern Babylon.” This could hardly have been said of London of 19th Century, but the present London meets all biblical criteria for Babylon of Revelation 17-18 (economic Babylon, not necessarily the religious Babylon, which refers to Rome and the Roman apostate Church). London, what has been called ”a world capital of 21st Century”, has overtaken New York as a global trading center. The mayor of London has said: ”We are the center of international economy and trade, the world’s largest global economic center without any doubt” (The New York Times, October 26, 2006). This has not changed in post-Brexit Britain (Bloomberg: London Retains Its Crown as World’s Top Financial Center). I wrote more of those several reasons why I believe that the London – not New York City – is economic Babylon of Revelation 17-18 in the article ”Great Baby(Lon-don) – Unveiling the mystery of Great Harlot of Revelation 18. So if London is the end-time Babylon, the ”king of Babylon” in Isaiah 14:13 refers to the future king of England or Prince Charles.
Read more: The Antichrist-heresies, Part 1: The Syrian Antichrist.
Prophecy fulfillment #9
Prophecy: The Antichrist must ”fulfill” the expectations of Jews for their awaited Messiah (John 5:43, Luke 21: 8, 1 John 2:1. Fulfillment: Just like Jesus, Charles, who as a child was circumcised by the Jewish rabbi, can trace his lineage back to King David of Israel as a ”fulfillment” Jes. 11:1.
And Immonen answers … ”Does this man of the Lord fulfill a role of the Antichrist?” At this point, my thoughts are no longer printable, but I try to maintain an academic self-control. I am jealous of those internet trolls whose freedom of expression is not limited by linguistic eloquence. I mean there was a few swearwords in my mind. As an anonymous writer, it would be easier to be more plain-spoken. I start to suspect that maybe Immonen himself was such a troll who intentionally annoyed and provoked me with these extremely stupid counter-arguments. Maybe by answering him, I made the mistake of what I should not have. Namely, a commonly known rule that you should not feed the trolls. Well, at least I got the subject for a new article. Either Immonen does not understand the purpose of the use of quotation marks or then he tried to irritate me quite intentionally. I did not say, that Prince Charles was the fulfillment of the Bible’s promised Messiah. I said that he would be a fulfillment of Israel’s False-Messiah.
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A genealogy of Elizabeth II that show her all royal ancestors up to King David.
I have referred in my book to the many prophecies in the Scriptures that require the Antichrist to have such a position. As a False-Messiah of Israel, of course, he must also ”fulfill” the biblical criteria that the Jews would expect from their awaited Messiah. The most prominent criteria for any Messiah candidate would be his certified lineage from the Royal House of King David. For this reason, the gospel of Matthew begins with a description of the genealogy of Jesus, which shows that He was from the House of King David, as Isaiah 11:1 and others predicted. The British-Israeli movement promoted during the 20th Century a genealogy chart that shows all the descendants of King David up to Queen Elizabeth II. A question is not about how authentic or accurate this genealogy is.
The point is that such a genealogy exists and thus Prince Charles is able to prove to the Jews that he is entitled to the throne of Israel’s upcoming Messiah. Sandy Rashty published a very prophetic news in The Jewish Chronicle, in February 2015 under the title: ”Why I’m sure that Charles will be a King for the Jews?” For more biblical arguments that the Antichrist should be either a Jew or meet the Scripture’s criteria of Israel’s False-Messiah, you can read my article The Antichrist-heresies, Part 2: The Jewish Antichrist.
Prophecy fulfillment #10
Prophecy: Alongside the Jews, the Antichrist must fulfill the Messianic expectations of all false religions (Rev. 13:. Fulfillment: Prince Charles descends from Muhammad’s lineage as prerequisite for Islamic Mahdi and is a prominent Western leader who defends all world religions, including Tibetan Buddhist community against the Chinese occupation (the Messiah of Buddhist eschatology is often interpreted as the Western leader). He is also perfectly suitable for the character of the ”New Age Messiah” Maitreya, in terms of his history, residence, worldview and mission.
Immonen’s objection: ”Where in the Bible? And how related with Mahdi?” I specified expressly those biblical passages to which these prophecy fulfillments are related to, and still, Immonen asks ”Where in the Bible?” A hint: See abbreviation in parentheses after the first sentence. Immonen focuses on extraneous details, such as ”Where does the Bible predict that Antichrist is the offspring of Muhammad?” I did not even claim anything like this in this prophecy fulfillment. I paid my attention only to one scripture that predicts on the Antichrist: ”And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” From here I draw the conclusion that the Antichrist should fulfill the Messianic expectations of all the world’s main religions. All world religions are currently waiting for such a global savior who would fulfill the prophecies of their religions at the end of the present world era. For Christians, it is Jesus Christ, to the Jews, it is the Messiah of Israel, for Muslims, it is Mahdi, and the Buddhists/New Agers are waiting for their Maitreya.
The fulfillment of the prophecy in Prince Charles is that he has the potential to fulfill the Messianic expectations of all the world’s main false religions. In the previous prophecy fulfillment, I mentioned his alleged kinship with Israel’s King David as a necessary precondition for the Jewish Messiah. In addition to this, he is also a direct descended from Muhammad, through his daughter Fatima, as the Muslim teachers say about the Mahdi. He has called himself a ”defender of faith” (not defender of the faith like his predecessors are known) because he wants to be seen as a hero and champion for all world religions against secularism and atheism. He is known, especially as an advocate of Islam, but in fact, he has been a fierce defender of all faiths. He does not make difference between the dogmatic disagreements of different world religions. He does not care if the Eastern religions believe in polytheism and the religions of the West in monotheism. He does not care that Christianity teaches that Jesus was the Son of God born of a virgin, who bore the sins of mankind on the Cross of Calvary, while Islam teaches that He was just a man who never died on the Cross (Surah 4:157, 171).
He is a friend of Dalai Lama, aka. Tenzin Gyatso, current spiritual leader of Tibet who lives in exile. The West has cultivated the romanticized image of Dalai Lama’s Tibetan paradise, the ”land of milk and honey” or mythical place of ”Shangri-Lan” where humans lived in harmony with nature until the Chinese occupation of Tibet in 1959. In fact, Tibetan ”paradise” was a hell on the earth, the feudal theocracy of hierarchical priest-class where everyday life was a very harsh and cruel for serfs or for those who were not part of privileged priest-class. Nazis, by the way, admired this medieval Tibetan feudal society and made some early documentaries of its cruel life for Tibetan serfs (read this) The current Dalai Lama, 82-years old Tenzin Gyatso, had many Nazi friends in his youth and had also a friendship with such Buddhist terrorists as Shōkō Asahara. Recently, he has been connected to New Age sex cults like NXIVM, which recruited Hollywood Actors in their sex cult where women were branded with the initials of its leader Keith Raniere. Raniere was arrested on the basis of accusations that he raped as young girls as 12 and forced his followers to his slaves.
Prince Charles has a well-reported relationship with the New Age movement, to which he converted in the late 1970s under the direction of his spiritual mentor Laurens Van Der Post. Prince Charles is also well suitable to the role of Maitreya, a Messiah of Buddhists and New Age movement, whose coming Scottish New Age guru, Benjamin Creme, has preached since 1982. He is known as ”John the Baptist” of coming New Age Messiah who, according to Creme, lives in London and will soon appear as a world teacher for all world religions with miracles and signs (2 Thessalonians 2:9).
Prophecy fulfillment #11
Prophecy: The Antichrist deceives the Jews, who are returned to their fathers land and established the state of Israel, into deceitful ”peace treaty” with their Islamic Arab neighbors who seek their destruction (Dan. 9:27). Fulfillment: Prince Charles had a significant role in the implementation of the Oslo ”Peace” Accord (in 1993 and 1995), which is why the British Foreign Office has used him as a Middle East peace envoy. It has been also said that he will not visit the Israeli soil until a peace agreement has been reached between Israelis and Palestinians.
Immonen’s objection: ”Where is the source that Prince Charles was neither part or parcel in Oslo’s peace process?” Once again, Mr. Immonen: sources and details for each of the 27 prophecy fulfillment are already in my book. If you had just bothered to read it, you would not have to ask such stupid questions. The source for this claim that Prince Charles played a prominent role in the Oslo ”Peace” Accord is mainly from Tim Cohen’s book, The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea (Chapter 12). Your sentence, by the way, should also go ”Where is the source [for the claim] that Prince Charles was part and parcel in Oslo’s peace process?” I already went through many other sources in my book, for example in Israeli Haaretz newspaper, about how Prince Charles is planning a first public visit to Israel but expects a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine to be implemented first to avoid ”controversy”. His son, Prince William, will become the first member of the royal family who visits in Israel and Palestine this summer, as I wrote already here. Daniel 9:27 predicts that the Antichrist would make a fraudulent seven-year peace treaty in the Middle East, between Israel and her Arab neighbors. In the midst of that treaty, he will visit in Jerusalem at the reconstructed Jewish temple and places on the holy of holies the ”abomination of desolation”. According to that verse 27, the Antichrist should be a ”Prince of Romans”, what title Prince of Wales means as we already have seen in prophecy fulfillment #3.
Prophecy fulfillment #12
Prophecy: The deceptive nature of Antichrist is revealed to the Jews in the midst of the 70th week when he will arrive in Jerusalem to abolish sacrifice and the oblation on the third temple and instigate the satanic persecution of the Jews for three and a half years (Dan. 8:11, 9:27, 11:31, 2 Matt. 24:15, Luke 21:20, 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Rev 11:2, 12:14). Fulfillment: Prince Charles descends from a family with strong ties to the Third Reich. In his private discussions, he has shown disdain for the Jewish state of Israel and secretly supported the openly antisemitic Hamas.
Immonen’s objection: ”Source criticism?” Now that you criticized my source criticism, why you do not just go through all about two thousand source references in my book (if there are three footnotes on average on one page, then there are 2100 on 700 pages) or even tenths of them. I admit that most of the footnotes come from very popular sources, such as Wikipedia, but I already added a footnote on the introduction that refers to the Nature magazine’s investigation which concluded that Wikipedia is as reliable as Encyclopaedia Britannica, as far as its scientific articles are concerned. I am very suspicious of Wikipedia’s nature when it comes to its articles on religion and politics (topics that are inclined to biased prejudices of its editors). But most of my Wikipedia sources concerns university-level history research. However, I made the mistake by linking directly to Wikipedia’s articles and not to its sources itself. This is problematic because Wikipedia content change over time, which means that citations are not necessarily exactly the same today as they were at the time of my writing.
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Queen’s uncle, Duke of Windsor, aka. Edvart VIII and previous Prince of Wales met Hitler in 1937. He was a most notorious Nazi sympathizer in the House of Windsor. But also Queen’s parents were proponents of Chamberlain’s Nazi appeasement policy and fervent supporters of the antisemitic White Paper of 1938 which was aimed against Zionism and the Balfour declaration, during those fateful moments in Jewish history when they had no other safe haven from Nazi genocide than the Eretz Israel, the Land of Israel.
I do not really know how to answer to Immonen’s ”objection”. The answer is the same as before: Sources and precise details are already in my book. In Chapter 9, I discussed in details on the historical Nazi connections of the Royal House of Windsor (in fact Germanic House of Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) as this is already documented in many academic books published by the prestigious University of Oxford, and also acknowledged by Prince Philip himself, Duke of Edinburgh. I have written on this in my many previous blog posts (see, for example, Elizabeth the Second grew in fanatical Nazi family! The mainstream media is now finally begun to reveal the dark side of the British royal family). A letter from Prince Charles from 1986 has also recently been published, which clearly show his contempt for Jews and the Jewish state of Israel. According to some earlier reports in the Guardian, US support for Israel was the main reason why he was so reluctant to visit the United States. The biblical passages that the Antichrist starts to persecute the Jews after halfway of the Tribulation period, I already mentioned in this prophecy fulfillment.
Prophecy fulfillment #13
Prophecy: The Antichrist receives global authority from all nations, peoples and tribes of the world (Rev. 13:7). Fulfillment: Prince Charles comes from a family that has been at the top of luciferian freemasonry for more than two centuries and has led an plan of Bavarian Illuminati to build one world government, world economy and world religion under the British Crown. Prince Charles has been personally at the forefront of such effort and campaigned for a one world government and urged the all nations, peoples and tribes to join the global revolution to create a new global world order.
Immonen’s objection: ”I compare to my previous comment” (Deep Sigh). I understand if someone doubts the source criticism for such a conspiratorial claim, since the many conspiracy theories about Illuminati, Freemasonry, etc., may come from very questionable source literature. But the fact that the British royal family has been at the top of British Freemasonry for over two centuries is not a conspiracy theory. This is acknowledged on the website of the United Grand Lodge of England (the oldest lodge of worldwide Freemasonry) and just last year it boasted on this royal connection in the 300th anniversary of its founding, which was attended by their Grand Master, Edward, Duke of Kent, the cousin of the Queen. The British royal family has also proven links to the Bavarian Illuminati, a seditious secret society founded in 1776, which infiltrated European Freemasonry at the end of the 18th Century and sought a global revolution to overthrow all nation-states of Europe and their Judeo-Christian values to form the new world order based on Luciferian doctrines of the secret societies (according to organization’s own writings that went public in the 1780s and was a subject of many books at that time).
This London-based conspiracy of the British roundtable societies and Anglophile elite families is also revealed in such books as gigantic 1348-pages chronicle Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (1966), written by Georgetown professor Carroll Quigley, a mentor of Bill Clinton. The claim that ”Prince Charles has been personally at the forefront of such effort and campaigned for a one world government and urged the all nations, peoples, and tribes to join the global revolution to create a new global world order”, comes not only from such books as The Sustainable Prince by Joan Veon, but also from Prince Charles’ own book Harmony (Blue Door, 2010), which declares in its opening statement: ”This is a call to revolution. The earth is under threat. It cannot cope with all that demand of it. It is losing its balance and we humans are causing this to happen. ’Revolution’ is a strong word and I use it deliberately.” Here, Prince Charles calls for global revolution to overcome the environmental problems of our planet. Mr. Immonen, I’m afraid you again jump to conclusions without reading my book first.
Prophecy fulfillment #14
Prophecy: The most significant change in the new world order of the Beast will be the creation of a global economic system in which no one can buy or sell without the mark of the beast in/on the right hand or the forehead (Rev 13:16 – 1. Fulfillment: Prince Charles has called for a reform of the global capitalist economic system. He was also the first person to show public support for the human RFID (Radio-frequency identification) technology by microchipping his sons William and Harry in 1995, and has collaborated with Walmart, world’s largest retailer, to extend RFID technology to all areas of global trading.
Immonen’s objection: ”Prince Charles has called for a reform of the global capitalist economic system. Not true. He has taken a position mainly on climate change: ’Prince Charles: rewire the global economy to stop climate change’ ”. Again wrong. He has taken a stand on the climate change he sees to be mainly caused by the global capitalist economy. That is why he has called for a renewal of the global economic system. In November 2010 NBC’s Brian Williams said after interviewing Prince Charles: ”In case you missed it, Prince Charles wants nothing less than the re-make of world’s economy.” In 2011, he mocked in Brussels those who believe that he and other climate alarmists are part of a malicious conspiracy to destroy a capitalist world system. In 2014, he delivered a speech where he called for a complete renovation of the capitalist economy to save the planet from the environmental damage. I really wonder that Immonen does not get straight any of my arguments. In addition, he quotes a news article, which in itself proves his argument wrong.
Immonen neither take a stand on the remainder of this prophecy fulfillment where I addressed the issue of Prince Charles being the first public person who promoted a human RFID technology by microchipping his sons William and Harry in 1995. Christian prophecy teachers
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THE PRINCE AND HIS GREEN ISLAMO-FASCIST PAUPERS by R. Mark Musser
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Prince Charles delivered a stunning speech to the Center for Islamic Studies at Oxford in June of 2010 wherein he called for a western pantheistic religious synthesis with Islam to help save the world from the impending environmental catastrophe looming on the apocalyptic horizon. Shockingly, Prince Charles strongly believes that Islam can play a critical role in bringing back ancient religious traditions that will promote a much needed check on western man’s unbridled enthusiasm for capitalism, power and money where science has been inappropriately exploited by commerce since the Industrial Revolution. Prince Charles presumes that such a course of action will return the western world back to a more reverent attitude toward Nature. Tracing the wedding between science and capitalism to Galileo and his mechanistic view of the natural world, Prince Charles asserted that such views has brought modern civilization to the precipice of an environmental apocalypse, especially as the Third World tries to catch up. Mother Nature has become objectified as an “it,” and hence exploited as such. He then concluded his speech by quoting an old saying from Islamic nomads, “the best of all Mosques is Nature herself.”
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Although Prince Charles did briefly cite from the book of Genesis in the middle of his speech and appealed to Christian apologists G.K. Chesterton and C.S. Lewis toward the end, his lecture was far from a Christian one. Not only did he mix up pantheism with classic Judeo-Christian theism, but also with Islamic monotheism as well. As the future heir of the Head of the Church of England, this may not bode well for the future of Anglicanism. Furthermore, his blending of pantheism with theism is much more an issue of his own wishful thinking than it is something that can be theologically defended with intellectual integrity.
Pantheism is the belief that God is everything. The Greek word ‘pan’ means ‘every’ and ‘theism’ means belief in ‘God.’ Built on pagan foundations, pantheism stands in sharp contrast to Judeo-Christian theism precisely because the Bible unabashedly asserts that God is the transcendent Creator of the universe. This means that God stands outside the universe. He is thus completely independent of His creation, all of which is perfectly illustrated in Genesis 1 where He speaks the entire universe into existence through His all-powerful Word. God’s existence is thus not contingent upon the universe, but rather the universe is contingent upon Him. While it is true that since the God of the Bible also declares Himself to be omnipresent, or everywhere at once, this suggests that He also lives immanently within the world. However, this is not be confused with pantheism where God is not only reduced to the level of Nature, but in fact is a part of Nature. In pantheism, God is the universe, or Nature Herself. In other words, pantheism is a form of Nature worship where Nature is worshiped as god, usually in the name of Mother Earth or “Gaia.”
As such, Prince Charles’s reference to Genesis was thus extremely brief, reducing Adam and Even to mere environmental conservationists whose primary job was to protect the garden of Eden for future generations. Only a modern environmentalist could possibly understand the opening chapters of Genesis in this way. He conveniently ignored the most salient point in Genesis about man, i.e., that although Adam is formed from the soil of the earth, he was also made in the image of God (Gen 1:26-2. This marks off Adam from the rest of creation (Gen 1-2; Psalm . Genesis clearly teaches that this makes Adam and Eve the king and queen of the earth (Gen 1:26-31), something which modern environmentalists have been bristling at for some 200 years now. To add insult to injury, God then commands Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply and subdue the earth (Gen 1:2. Such commands are an absolute anathema to the modern green movement as it constantly obsesses over human population growth and sustainable development, always trying to force people to reduce their human footprint. What’s more is that this Genesis mandate has never been rescinded.
Neither is it a coincidence that original scientists like Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, and Newton were all Christian theists. Contrary to popular opinion these days, their brand of science was a continuation of the Genesis mandate, something which Francis Bacon certainly recognized when he coined the phrase, “knowledge is power.” By this, he specifically meant power over nature, something which Prince Charles criticizes throughout his lecture. It must also be remembered that Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo challenged the semi-pantheistic Aristotelian view of the universe, not the biblical one, something which is almost always completely misunderstood and misrepresented with regard to the Copernican revolution. The Catholic scholastics of the Middle Ages gave too much deference to Aristotle, which has unfairly given Christianity a bad reputation in the scientific community. Strangely, it is this pantheistic Greek ‘science’ that Prince Charles wishes to return to when he criticizes modern science for being too mechanistic and too beholden to capitalistic consumerism. What he also completely fails to realize is that science in the hands of progressive socialistic engineers with a government whip has been far more brutal to people than anything free market capitalism has ever tried.
The Genesis mandate was designed by God for Adam and Eve to convert the wilderness into a garden through work, marriage and procreation (Gen 1-2). The garden of Eden was in fact their model or pattern to follow. In Genesis 2, God planted a garden right in front of Adam’s eyes to show him the difference between the wilderness and the garden. The wilderness has thus never been the divine ideal in the Bible, even as far back as Genesis 1. Even ancient Israel after the Exodus from the house of slavery in Egypt continued the Genesis mandate. The Conquest of Joshua was specifically intended to turn the promised land of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob into beautiful privately owned farms parceled out to each Hebrew family for the glory of God. This was something that the ‘green’ nature worshipers of Canaan were not doing. In fact, after the Conquest, Israel often found themselves completely seduced by the Canaanite Baal nature worship practices that surrounded them on all sides. The Old Testament time and time again declares that the reason why the divided kingdom of Israel was subjected to its respective captivities into both Assyria (722 BC) and Babylon (606-586 BC) was precisely because of their Baal nature worship (2 Kings 14:28-17:18; Hosea; Jeremiah 19:1-15).
As such, even more troublesome for Prince Charles is that after Adam and Eve fell into sin, the distance between the environmental and Judeo-Christian worldviews sharpens even more. Adam and Eve were subsequently banished from the garden paradise that God created for them (Gen 3:24). Harmony between man and nature is henceforth forbidden – and this by the edict of God. In fact, the Lord purposefully frustrated nature to frustrate and discipline man in his sin (Gen 3:17-19; Rom 8:20-22). Still more troublesome is that the Lord then shockingly introduced animal sacrifice to cover their shameful nakedness in sin (Gen 3:21; 4:4; Lev 1:1-5). Ritual animal sacrifice was thus inaugurated to teach Adam and Eve about the serious consequences of sin, i.e., death. Redemption must therefore be accomplished through a sacrificial substitute to die in the place of the sinful worshiper, all looking forward to the ultimate sacrifice of the Messiah on the cross (John 1:29; 10:1-17). In other words, in the brave new world of sin, nature is sacrificed for man, not man for nature. This hard lesson was quickly rejected by Cain (Gen 4:1-16). His ‘green’ gifts were outright rejected by God, but Abel’s sacrificial lamb was accepted. At this, Cain becomes extremely angry and kills his brother. Thus environmentalism was at the heart of the first murder in human history. Cain did not appreciate the fact that the ground from which he offered his green offering to God was in fact cursed.
As a deep ecologist, it is not likely that Prince Charles is unaware of this biblical albatross. He thus had to go elsewhere to find a spirituality that is more compatible with environmentalism. At this particular juncture, Prince Charles goes to the Muslims rather than to Brahmanism, Hinduism, Buddhism and the like. He points out that the Koran repeatedly “describes the natural world as the handiwork of a unitary benevolent power. It very explicitly describes Nature as possessing an ‘intelligibility’ and that there is no separation between the natural world and God. It offers a completely integrated view of the Universe where religion and science, mind and matter are all part of one living, conscious whole. We are therefore finite beings contained by an infinitude, and each of us is a microcosm of the whole. This suggests to me that Nature is a knowing partner, never a mindless slave to humanity, and we are Her tenants, God’s guests for all too short a time.” In the mind of Prince Charles, therefore, Islam and western pantheism thus have much in common.
Fretting over Nature’s finite resources by using Malthusian math, which has been completely discredited for over 200 years now, Prince Charles warned everyone present that “we are living beyond our means, already consuming the Earth’s capital resources faster than she can replenish them.” Throughout the speech, he often refers to what he calls the “ever widening division we are seeing in so many ways between humanity and Nature.” He also parroted the typical environmental obsession that the planet’s “life support systems are now struggling to cope under the strain of global industrialization.” Even more typical, he tied together the current financial crisis with the looming environmental crisis, which he believes reflects an “inner crisis of the soul.” He then sermonized that the resolution to this great crisis cannot consist of better green technology, but a return to western pantheistic religious traditions that even stretches farther east to ancient Islam, “the traditional way of life within Islam is very clear about the center that holds relationships together. From what I know of its core teachings and commentaries, the important principle we must keep in mind is that there are limits to the abundance of Nature. These are not arbitrary limits, they are limits imposed by God and, as such, if my understanding of the Koran is correct, Muslims are commanded not to transgress them.” Here Prince Charles makes Islam’s traditions perfectly consistent with the modern environmental drive to force sustainable development upon the western civilized world.
Here, by joining together environmentalism and western pantheism with Islam, Prince Charles gets himself into all manner of troubles compounded by ten. The last time the green movement became involved with a group as Anti-Semitic as Islam was in Nazi Germany. At a time when more than a few environmental historians have been forced to write some books to downplay, the historical connections between National Socialism and the early German green movement, Prince Charles opens up Pandora’s Avatar box all over again.
To the surprise of many, National Socialism was a green movement in some important, fundamental ways. Its god was a western pantheistic god of Nature whose totalitarian will cannot be overcome as many Jews, Christians, liberals, and communists falsely presume. Herein lies the Nazi hatred for both capitalism and communism. Its Anti-Semitic racism and love for biology was rooted in the Social Darwinian ecology of Ernst Haeckel. Its holistic nationalism and geopolitics was grounded in the environmental indigenous ideas of Goethe, Humboldt and Arndt. Its Germanic green socialism was derived from Riehl, the father of sustainable development and public forestlands. Its romanticized “blood and soil” agrarian pipe dream was borrowed from the nature loving Monist League. The Nazi love for animals was acquired from Arthur Schopenhauer, the Anti-Semitic guru of environmental ethics and animal rights who blamed Genesis 1 and Judaism for what he calls the “odor of the Jews,” i.e., animal cruelty, “the fault lies with the Jewish view that regards animals as something manufactured for man’s use.” Hitler could quote Schopenhauer verbatim. Schopenhauer was Hitler’s favorite philosopher. It was thus no coincidence that the first Anti-Semitic measure that was passed in Nazi Germany in 1933 was an animal rights law. That the Jews would ultimately find themselves stuffed in cattle cars and sent off to concentration camps set up like stockyards, is thus perhaps not so curious. Hitler brought to fruition Schopenhauer’s great wish that “Jewish view of the animals world must, on account of its immorality, be expelled from Europe.” The end result of Nazi Germany was a ghastly green sacrifice of the so-called ‘Eternal Jew’ who tried to live above nature through capitalism in the west, and communism in the east.
Finally, National Socialism’s wild, artistic romanticism was further elicited from Richard Wagner, the famous opera composer who hated the Jews for commercializing art. Wagner also absorbed the Anti-Semitic environmentalism of both Schopenhauer and Haeckel into his life as well. As such, when Hitler once remarked that “whoever wishes to comprehend National Socialism must first know Richard Wagner,” this certainly included a strong respect for romantic green ideas, racial and otherwise. Hitler even attributed his own practice of vegetarianism to Richard Wagner. Indeed, on November 11, 1941, right as the Germany Army was within striking distance of the gates of Moscow, Hitler trumpeted, “but there is one thing I can predict to eaters of meat, that the world of the future will be vegetarian.”
Eco-fascism is thus no metaphor. Greenpeace’s founder, Patrick Moore, who left the group because of their increasingly extremist views, has warned of a coming eco-fascism “where the planetary police would answer to no one but Mother Nature herself.” However, it is one thing to call someone an eco-Nazi using metaphors, but quite another to discover that the Nazis had incorporated a green agenda into their political policymaking as well. For obvious reasons, putting these two things together is exactly what modern environmentalists do not want. When such a label begins to match its history at some important junctures, it becomes much more explosive, and the bringing together of environmentalism with Islam will not dispel the strong suspicion that the modern green movement wreaks of fascism. It only injects much more octane into an already highly volatile atmosphere.
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