Mark Thomas

ian neal · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas has a new forum

Why not say hello?

http://www.markthomasinfo.com/

scar · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:11 am Post subject:

hello

andyb · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:08 am Post subject:

Actually read a bit more. Is anyone else up for the lone demonsration next Monday. We can demonstrate for anything we like and can all take a look at different 9/11 areas(WT7, Pentagon, Flight 93 etc) I will be heading down to Charing Cross police station tonight form in hand. Join me. Didn't realise the three of us who walked with banners last time were breaking the law.

Also he generally does these things for camera so may even get some exposure on tv.

andyb · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:19 am Post subject:

Here'e the application form for anyone who wants to get involved

DeFecToR · Moderate Poster Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 782

Does anyone know what Mark Thomas' views are on 911. I've been wondering...

kbo234 · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:51 am Post subject:

I don't know, but his forum is not unlike Urban75......open your mouth about 9/11 and you will get buried under moronic and rabid abuse. At least that's what happened to Flamesong.

andyb · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:09 am Post subject:

Flamesong did get quite insulting to be fair. I realise he was abused but rising to it only gives em more ammo imo.

I went to Charing Cross police station and have applied for a lone demonstration next Monday @ Parliament Sqaure between 17:30-18:30. If anyone is around I suggest you do the same although you will need to get the form in to your nearest police station by today. I have attached the form needed above.

I will be allowed a banner. any suggestions as to what I should include on it?

scar · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

kookomula · Validated Poster Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 328

Have some grace people, really. This false sense of superiority may contribute to our collective downfall. To call people morons, sheeple and brainwashed is so against what we are trying to do here. Surely the aim is to unite and engage. I'm not sure that this is really relevant but I did hear once that the PTB believe that the common man is stupid because once they have exhausted their limited vocabulary they resort to violence and once we become violent they've got us, "they know how to deal with that". We can win with words, there is a case to be heard. All we can do is speak what we believe to be true there should not be any need to engage in arguments with people we are on the same side even if they don't yet know it.

ian neal · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serious_Organised_Crime_and_Police_Act_20 05
http://parliamentprotest.org.uk/

Andy B's one person protest suggestion is only relevent to the control of demonstrations within I think it is 1 km of Parliament

Kookomala

I haven't visited the forum, but agree that in general it is most effective to be endlessly gracious and polite to hostile posters regardless of the provocation.

kookomula · Validated Poster Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 328

Thanks for that Ian, sorry I edited my post and moved the response to AndyB to 'General' for some unknown reason. If you look there you will see that I was a little worried that authorisation may now be required to demonstrate anywhere in Central London. For now I am happy to demonstrate small scale 9-11 outside the exclusion zone, walking down Whitehall is like talking to a brick wall anyway, with the people is where we need to be.

Back to topic. Mark Thomas. I'll have a look.

ian neal · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:11 am Post subject:

Obviously I can't control how other people post but having read Mark Thomas' site 9/11 thread and just posted there, I feel stronger than ever that a calm, polite, respectful and informed, evidence based posting style is what is required.

A few critics will always try and provoke a more angry response. But not all of our critics are disrespectful. Where our critics resort to ad hominem attacks and fail to address the evidence, readers will be able to draw their own conclusions.

scar · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:25 am Post subject:

ian neal · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:10 am Post subject:

Thanks Scar

So that readers don't get overwhelmed with the volume of material it may be helpful to select a smoking gun within a smoking gun to narrow in on this otherwise the discussion will be v scattergun and unfocussed and if 'we' are seen to 'bombard' this forum, it will cause resentment.

My suggestion is seeking an explanation to the hotspots of molten metal in the tower rubble but I'm open to alternatives

scar · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:43 am Post subject:

I agree about the need to avoid bombardment, not sure about gun within gun. Focus is a good idea though.
Noone replied to any links about building 7, whereas i noticed a quick snap judgement along the 'amazing bellows' line for why molten metal would be there weeks later...

I just replied quickly to 'the leander' and i will probably leave it a while before i return as theres only so many hours in the day and many others who DO have an open mind out there whereas, sadly, the guys on that forum who disagree refuse to check a single link out. Possible dead-end 'fruitloop' alert.
They said that Mark doesnt even use the forums anyway so doubtful he will make a reply. Shame.
I hope he does.

hampton · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: mark

i read that people have spoken directly to mark about 911 conspiracy theories.

he seemed disinterested, tried to change to subject, said "we have a democracy unlike burma" & "he believed it was muslims what done it" and he didn't want any further info.

Jayhawk · Moderate Poster Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 188

Kookamula:

alwun · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: the 'No Argument Theory'

Hey Jayhawk,

I just received the same No2ID leaflet in the post. This brochure is highly recommended reading, containing as it does a thorough guide to getting a message across without alienating the 'target'.

cheers Al.

Andrew Johnson · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject:

Yes, a well thought-out and well funded campaign - isn't it?

Send them a message about 9/11 Truth and see how they react...

flamesong · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:40 am Post subject:

Well, I admit I did get a bit riled! Unfortunately, having been a member of the previous Mark Thomas forum, I could read between the lines and did a bit of a Zinedine Zidane (not that I condemn Zidane!).

I just got Mark's new book, 'As Used on the Famous Nelson Mandela', for my birthday and am making steady progress through it. I get the feeling that Mark can only deal with surface stuff and unless we can produce a pile of invoices we aren't going to get a hearing.

There is a quote from his book which stopped me in my tracks and which I had to read over and over:

'Do you know what New Labour are? They are the aspartame of politics: sugar-free but the same old shít in every other respect...'

The but in the second sentence implies that being the aspartame of politics is contrary to being 'the same old shít in every other respect'.

Now, I know this is not a debate about Aspartame, nor do I wish to make it so, but having given Mark earache to his face about chewing Aspartame laced gum (almost all of it is) he seems to suggest that his grasp of Aspartame extends only as far as its lack of sugar. There is a parallel here with George Galloway who claimed on Radio 4 that Donald Rumsfeld took a large quantity of saccharine as a gift to Saddam Hussein during his visit to Iraq in 1983 - it was in fact Aspartame - Rumsfeld was then CEO of Serle.

These points may not be of any material importance in themselves but they illustrate in both cases a certain inability to see beneath the superficial and thereby an obtacle which will take some surmounting.

kbo234 · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:27 am Post subject:

The impression these comments leave is that Mark Thomas only gets a TV show because he's a bit of an idiot.

flamesong · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:48 am Post subject:

Dog · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject:

A * MEN to that.....(although the goat-boy thang was a bit much Shocked

)

andyb · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:40 am Post subject:

I got my permission through from the cops yesterday. It was a fairly easy processs and I suggest that we all start applying for lone demo's for 11/9 this year.

Any suggestions for a hard hitting banner?

Leiff · Trustworthy Freedom Fighter Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 509

How about:

9/11 = False Flag Terrorism

ian neal · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject:

andyb · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject:

Right, I have my permission slip and two big bits of cardboard for a double sided banner. I was thinking of printing off an A4 upside down US Flag for one side. Does anyone have a high res copy of one.

Also any suggestions for the rest of the space? I was thinking soemthing re WT7, any good one liners appreciated.

Cheers
Andy

Leiff · Trustworthy Freedom Fighter Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 509

WTC7 Not Demolished? Yeah Right 'Pull' The Other One!

andyb · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject:

Skeptic · Validated Poster Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 485

I'm fighting the long war at the Mark Thomas forum Wink

	9/11, 7/7, Covid-1984 & the War on Freedom Forum Index -> Campaigning	All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2 Next
Page 1 of 2