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kbo234 Validated Poster
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Jews jews jews. This is being organised and has long been since
The Israeli state has long been organised as a demon state, surrounded by demon muslims
"Jewish Zionists are a cancer and the Jewish State is a tumour"
This is a whole ambition of the nwo to enjoin us in a demonstrably "antisemitic" stance. Piss on this stuff
"Promoting divisiveness by homosexuality"? This is really strange
Treat with care
Icke and Jones? view Dov Zakheim
Well you know who's the guilty
The Ashkenazis? We know their origin from the converted Khazars
Come on - with what's going on with the Lebanon and Gaza situation and the strong Iran background we're going to be propulsed into an "anti-semite" proposition |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:30 am Post subject: |
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The game is so in your face. I agree DH, the attacks of Daryl BS and Eric H are deeply unhelpful IMO.
The path the PTB and puppet masters want to herd us down is towards world war three, a clash of civilisations, setting jew against muslim against christian. The puppet masters pull the strings of the zealots on all sides, stoking division, hatred and despair. Order out of chaos.
The agenda is so clear.
Our choice is to know this agenda, understand how the game is played and reject it. As a world we need to change and we know it. Choose a different path that we (the people) control. A path based on our acceptance of the universial truth that we are all connected to each other and the web of life. By accepting this, we will come to know and understand One Love and God. There are many paths to this truth but they all have the same destination. |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: |
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These guys have really lost it, which is sad, as Hufschmid did a lot of good work in the early days . If I didn't know better than to call them names I'd say they were working for the enemy, but I think it's a simple case of Paranoia with severe jealousy. |
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know. Listen to the 40 minute excerpt from Freedman's speech in 1961 (on link below).
This stuff is dynamite. It's also true, I believe.
Zionism is the ideology that the bankers and the criminals are using to bring about a one world government. We ignore this at our peril. It is obvious that Zionists control America. The EU and UK's non-response to the current Israeli outrages tells us that we too are effectively controlled by Zionist interests.
Christians should remember that it was this style of Talmudism that Christ condemned ferociously. The Pharisees interpreted religious texts in a materialist, self-serving and racist fashion (remind you of Israel?)
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Freedman.html |
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'll be honest, my stomach turned when i read this thread. I told myself "leave it alone, you'll only wind yourself up".
Bo**ocks. I have to say my bit.
DBS has done enormous damage to anti-zionist sentiment. It is not his coverage of zionism that is the problem, but his attacks against other researchers. This has had the effect of polarizing people within this arguement, with most people siding with the AJ's or the LC boys and dismissing DBS, and his views on zionism, out of hand.
One of the first things i became aware of when studying 911 and geopolitics was the strength of the Israeli lobby not only in America but around the world. I became aware of the tactics that the ADL and JDL would use to FOSTER anti-semitism as a means of providing themselves with a tag to hide behind; Point out the obvious anti-semites in the world and once someone criticizes zionism or Israel they can all the more easily be labeled anti-semitic.
The truth is that zionism is a very powerful branch of the fight for globalism, but it is just that, a BRANCH. It is completely impossible to take over the world using just one banner, expecting everyone to come under it. There are many different political ideals and many different movements. The true leaders of the world are NOT Catholic or Protestant or Jewish or Muslim (as these all stem from the EXACT same form of egyptian sun worship) they are all GLOBALISTS. When you hear them calling themselves one of these religions you know they not followers of it but that they are HIDING behind it. This is the same for the Jewish faith.
That said, Zionism has been one of the most successful tool for these globalsits since WW2. The reason; FEAR OF ANTI-SEMITISM. The congress in the US is 100% controlled zionist property and congress in the US are SCARED STIFF of speaking out against Israel or zionism as it would result in the immediate suspention of political contributions whilst being labeled 'anti-semitic'.
I AM F**KING SICK OF THIS.
What was the FIRST BLOODY THING i read when i looked at this thread?
dh wrote: | Jews jews jews. This is being organised and has long been since
The Israeli state has long been organised as a demon state, surrounded by demon muslims
"Jewish Zionists are a cancer and the Jewish State is a tumour"
This is a whole ambition of the nwo to enjoin us in a demonstrably "antisemitic" stance. |
FOR GOD SAKE DONT YOU SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING???
Zionism is a genuine threat to the world. Yes it is true it not the only force for evil as DBS says, but it is still a valid enemy. What i speak out against is zionism.
YOU (!!!!) JUST TURNED IT IN TO A JEWISH ISSUE, WHICH IS PRECISELY HOW ZIONIST WANT YOU TO AVOID THE ISSUE!!!!!
They know that have FEAR of being labeled 'anti-semitic'. So, if they can tie zionism to jews and ingrain that in the public mind, then you will immediately equate zionism to jews and be too SCARED to speak out against zionism.
I've got news for you JUDAISM AND ZIONISM ARE NOT THE SAME THING!!!! STOP MAKING OPPONENTS OF ZIONISM ANTI-SEMITES!!!
For god sake. Judaism is a RELIGION, zionism is a POLITICAL IDEAL. When you connect the two YOU are being anti-semitic.
When you immediately start accusing anyone speaking against Israel or Zionism of being anti-semitic then THEY HAVE WON!! Thats WHAT THEY HIDE BEHIND.
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with what's going on with the Lebanon and Gaza situation and the strong Iran background we're going to be propulsed into an "anti-semite" proposition |
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An anti-ISRAEL proposition for crying out loud.
And in case you are wondering, i might know a tiny bit of what i'm talking about because, yes, i'm a Jew. SHOCK HORROR!!
"HE HATES ZIONISM HE MUST BE A SELF-HATING JEW."
Oh, p**s off.
I'll be on my death bed speaking out against ALL the methods of control INCLUDING zionism. Fear of labels wont ever stop me. _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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DeFecToR, well said,I'm sure most are aware of those differences so you can calm down now |
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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I look at ethics, not viewpoints: other peoples opinions are their own buisness: my opinions are definately my own
On the ethics test, DBS is poor: very poor
I agree, its noise, distraction, confusion, and enticing throwing babies out with bathwater (his atitude to Zionism): I find it deeply suspect and feel little reason to put stock in his integrity
As it always does, it comes down to each of us challenging ourselves to be better than that and admit to how we see things: honesty is the way to get past dis-information _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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DeFecTor - what the hell are Zionists anyway. A fair proportion of those termed jews are more racially - as far as we have to appallingly define people, slavs anyway
The 1% seem to consist of American wasp,jews and assumed jews,European Royal lineage,Australian and other all-white banking and industrial cartels subservient Saud fez-wearers, Chinese stalinists, odd Mugabe style African royalty - mixed race - not so many Kalahari bushmen or aboriginals The elite is the strange and hidden breed apart - the rest of us are the manipulated same |
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uselesseater Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Newspeak International wrote: | DeFecToR, well said,I'm sure most are aware of those differences so you can calm down now |
Yeh, sorry guys. Especially DH. Didn't mean to get quite so heated on the issue, it is most definately NOT productive.
I guess i just hate the way DBS has polarised people in this issue. Political Zionism is a real threat to the world, and whilst its fine to talk about battling the 'globalists', we must (i believe) identify each arm of this globalist, sun order agenda, and that includes zionism, though certainly not exlusively.
Israel is a very special nation in that not only has it been chosen as the primary catylist nation for the final wars, but the ideology behind its inception is particulary potent, and an excellent tool for change in politics and society throughout the world. This absolutely does not mean though that this is a primarily zionist agenda to enforce globalism. Far from it. As i before stated, it is simply a very productive arm of our global elite rulers, and while there may be much of what DBS says that i agree with, it is for this reason that he is fundamentally wrong. The top zionists are NOT jews, though they may profess to be. Much in the same way that the highest Tory party members or freemasons are not christian. But just as how i would fight against a communist agenda though recognising that there are no high level communists, i believe that we should strongly oppose zionism whilst recognising that its progenitors are, at heart far separated from the jewish faith.
What sickens me most is how the jewish people have been used by these criminals. (I should note that when i said i was a jew i perhaps was not being entirely truthful. My father was jewish, so i am technically jewish by desent. Though i see 'JEW' as nothing more than a tag that others choose to apply to me if they wish. I kind of see myself as 'Brendan', but there you go. I feel a bit guilty about mentioning that and really should not have at all, as i now feel like I MYSELF have just 'used' the term 'jew' to articulate a point in an arguement. Isn't that what i oppose?!? )
Oh well. I might as well end this little diatribe on a happy note. Myself and a workmate last night decided to fly over (i'm in northern ireland) to London and join you crazy guys for the 911 anniversary!
Its gonna rock. We are HYPED!!! _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Wooooooooooo
Just actually read through my first post. Bloody hell i really must have bust a nut before i wrote that. (I work nights and was only out of bed so that might account for a little bit of the...er, emphasis )
Sorry again DH. Didnt mean to single you out.
One other thing i might mention. I had to say goodbye recently to a man i came to highly respect and admire. A man who taught me a lot.
Mr Alex Jones.
I've spent the last two years listening to every broadcast he's made (i get nine hours a night of headphone usage - sweet!) and up untill now had patiently and diligently ignored (and glossed over) his sparse coverage of zionism and Israel in general.
This latest OUTRAGE in Gaza and the Lebanon was the straw that broke the camels back. Three nights in a row i had to turn him off, and now for the first time ever, didnt bother to download his friday broadcast.
We'll probably kiss and make up at some point but only when HE sends ME flowers and chocolates.
By the way. You guys see this; Its from AOL news so cant forward a link)
British ships heading for the Middle East
The HMS Illustrious will be leaving for the Middle East
- Search: Middle East violence
Two British ships are being dispatched to the Middle East amid planning for a possible evacuation of British nationals from Lebanon.
The Ministry of Defence said that aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious and assault ship HMS Bulwark were to be sent to the region.
An estimated 10,000 British citizens in Lebanon have been warned to prepare for a quick departure if the situation escalates.
A Ministry of Defence Spokeswoman stressed that the two ships had been given "no specific tasking''.
Now correct me if i'm wrong but it takes a while to send ships that far to the Gulf. Perhaps the UK government are slightly more aware of a possible escallation in the fighting? _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Defector and welcome
I like what you are saying in your posts on this thread and these are the views of the majority here I believe as shown
here
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This issue is also extremely important, precisely because the stance taken by EH, DBS and a few others that see 9/11 and the NWO agenda solely through a zionist lens (and often failing to carefully distinguish between zionism and judaism) and the divisions and conflicts they are trying to provoke within the movement
Zionism is a deeply fascist, intollerant and 'racist' political ideology. But ultimately it is another creation of the PTB. And just as Hitler and nazism were creations of the PTB before them
Our critics like nothing more than to portray the 9/11 truth movement as 'anti-semitic' and 'anti-jewish' and given the preferred tactic of the PTB of creating and using opposames to divide and rule, I reject both the views of DBS and EH and those amonst our critics such as Jon Ronson who cry 'jewish conspiracy' |
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Very well said Ian Neal. This certainly is a devicive issus, a true political minefield if ever there was one.
I so often wonder to what degree this should be emphasised within the larger 'truth' movement as a whole. I find that within those who do not really understand geopolitics are much more responsive to the arguement that zionists are separate from jews and play a serious part in the woes of today. Problem i have found is in those who leasurly 'pay attention' to things. Those who see the world still through a left/right, blue/red debate. The belief that once the neo-cons are booted out things will all of a sudden get better. Say zionism to them and its like burning a swastica it to your forehead.
What tactic do we employ? Any ideas? _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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DeFecToR wrote: |
What tactic do we employ? Any ideas? |
Concentrate on 9/11 facts and the overwhelmingly important issue of who creates our money.
Government, not private individuals should be doing it.
Making this change would not solve all our problems but it would sort out the biggest problem....the world could no longer be manipulated to disaster by Satanist bankers. |
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Leiff Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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How about 'Globalists' - that hasn't got any racial connotations. |
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scar Moderate Poster
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Who is hosting that RBN show,scar? |
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I keep failing to listen to bittorrents. Have downloaded WinAce. Still can't do it. I might be a bit thick. Can anyone help. |
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scar Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Stadtmiller, ive not listened to him before.
Eric Hufschmid loses it. He sounds even more deranged than normal. Hence its quite sad. All the views of him expressed there have already been discussed here.
Download it if ya wanna hear the Loose Change lads stand up for themselves. Otherwise its 50 minutes wasted when you could be watching big brother or eastenders or something
kbo234: yeah i can help. You need 2 programs.
Client: i use http://www.utorrent.com its really light on cpu/memory use.
peerguardian2: http://phoenixlabs.org/ - blocks nefarious ip's
Then you need to set up a port in your firewall to let utorrent through and assign the same port in utorrent.
Load up a torrent - point it to a folder. Done. _________________ Positive...energy...activates...constant...elevation. (Gravediggaz) |
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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scar wrote: | Stadtmiller, ive not listened to him before.
Otherwise its 50 minutes wasted when you could be watching big brother or eastenders or something |
Thanks I'll have a listen now.
N
PS If you're not into Torrents you can find the RBN network online and archived here:
http://www.rbnlive.com/archiveindex.html |
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Scar and Newspeak International. |
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dodgy Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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kbo234 - if you need any further help with torrents, shoot me a pm - I know bittorrent inside-out. Same applies to anyone else too. |
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DeFecToR Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: |
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kbo234 wrote: | I keep failing to listen to bittorrents. Have downloaded WinAce. Still can't do it. I might be a bit thick. Can anyone help. |
Yup, definately use UTorrent. Never had any problems.
Though i STRONGLY recomend running PeerGuardian aswell as it blocks a whole smattering of very scary IP's. You'll be very surprised at just how many shams have their thumb in your pc.
Just now had the Chinese Ministry of Education flashed up. I'll bet their a bunch of laid back types. _________________ "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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