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HERA Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: Desperate Times |
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John Witherow: cc Robert Thomson - Times
Editor
Sunday Times
I see that today's ST is still trying to give us the "Muslim suicide bombers" fantasy.
Are you not worried about all the relatives who know, due to the Internet, The Independent, posted letters etc etc that the 07.40 train was cancelled and that the next train arrived after the Circle Line trains had left ?
They also know that eye-witness reports place the explosions on the rail-tracks.
Is the problem one of cognitive dissonance or do you genuinely believe that the relatives will not come looking for those in the UK STATEMEDIA who went out of their way to protect the perpetrators? |
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Kier Minor Poster
Joined: 25 Jun 2006 Posts: 50
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Desperate Times |
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HERA wrote: | Are you not worried about all the relatives who know, due to the Internet, The Independent, posted letters etc etc that the 07.40 train was cancelled and that the next train arrived after the Circle Line trains had left ? |
Hi,
The Home Office now says the Official Report was mistaken and the men took the 0725 from Luton.
Quote: | They also know that eye-witness reports place the explosions on the rail-tracks. |
Do you have a link for these eye-witness reports please?
Thanks. |
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brian Validated Poster
Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 611 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Kier
ANGELO POWER
Independent: "She was trapped and there wasn't much left of her leg. The chap next to her had lost his leg and there was a woman to their left who was on her back trapped in the metal, which had twisted up through the middle of the carriage. The roof was still on, but the lining of the carriage had been blown off. The sides had also come off and there was a big hole in the floor."
LIZZIE KENWORTHY (Off duty policewoman)
CEN: "The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train."
BRUCE LAIT
Guardian mp3: [Mark Honigsbaum after interviewing survivors] "an explosion this morning under the carriage of the train", "some passengers described how the tiles, the covers on the floor of the train, suddenly flew up, raised up", "had been derailed by this explosion" - listen
Guardian: 'One gentleman told me the floor of the train had blown up.'
Guardian: 'Other witnesses also reported a huge hole being torn in the floor of the carriage, and said one of the men who died appeared to have fallen through the gap.'
Guardian: "The tiles on the floor of my carriage suddenly shot up."
ANITA KINSELLEY
BBC: The window behind me had exploded in, part of the ceiling was on the floor and there was a large hole in the floor.
CHRIS STONES
BBC: She came straight to me and helped lift the doors that were on top of me then helped me up, took my hand and walked me through the first carriage where the manholes in the carriage were blown out
DANNY BELSTEN
Very few witnesses have been reported as having seen the men on 7/7 --
http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/witnesses/witnesses.html |
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Kier Minor Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Brian,
I am aware of those reports that you've kindly listed and they certainly suggest that the bombs aren't where we're told they were and could have been underneath the trains. What I was after was a link to the reports referred to in the post above mine that state the explosions actually occurred on the rail tracks as I've come across no witness reports stating this.
At http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/ we're constantly trying to put together a cohesive picture of what happened that day so all witness reports are very helpful. If there are reports from eye witnesses and evidence that the bombs were actually on the tracks, then this would definitely lend weight to the idea that the bombs were not in the train carriages or not possibly attached somehow to the undersides of the trains.
Thanks,
Kier. |
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brian Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Kier, my misunderstanding. It would be handy speak to those that would have been brought in to repair any damge there may have been to the tracks. Mark Honigsbaum might have done it when putting his piece together eh. Did the investigative journalist ever really exist? |
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