Local assemblies

[halva]

Next April (April 2006) Athens is to host the European Social Forum. The programme is being decided upon next month (September) in Istanbul, and it is utopian to think that the 9/11 Truth issue will be able to get onto it. Of course I may be wrong about that. The last European Social Forum was held in London, and there was a 9/11 workshop.

Nevertheless, another initative which is underway at the moment, started by members of ATTAC in Germany, is for a Europe-wide network of grass-roots citizens groups to make proposals for an alternative Europe, one which has a better chance of going forward than the Europe of the failed ’Constitution’ now rejected by the citizens of France and Holland.

http://www.anothereurope.net/wiki/index.php/Call_for_local_assemblies_ %28EN%29

9/11 Truth movement members in Europe should start forming or joining these local assemblies, without having a ’single-issue’ attitude about their engagement but also without hiding genuine convictions that the phoniness of the ’terrorism’ issue, whether in the US, in London or elsewhere must be brought to light.

Maintain contact with other 9/11 truth activists, but also do not be sectarian and go looking for trouble with ’Leftist gatekeepers’, who are a predominant, but not invincible, element, in the Social Forum movement.

Further information: omades@in.gr

Could you not, at least, form a London group??

[halva]

I am loosely associated with the Centre for a Social Europe at http://www.social-europe.org.uk/ .
That organisation is thoroughly conversant with the ideas involved. It seems to me that the need for a social Europe has little to do with a search for the truth behind the 9/11 outrage.
Let us concentrate on our purpose.

Alan Firminger


Make the distinction between means and ends.

Think of the proposed pan-European network as a possible means to achieve the end that the 9/11 truth movement is not achieving through conventional lobbying.

WH
Athens

[xmasdale]

I'm not sure how we should play this one, but thank Halva for her suggestions. Personally I am too busy struggling to keep up with all the Truth Movement correspondence I receive to give much attention to it, but if someone wants to take the initiative here I would support it.

The 9/11 truth workshop at the European Social Forum in London happened as a result of the efforts of the then quite young London group. It was our first sizeable public meeting. If there's a group in Athens who wants to do likewise we would welcome it, but I have no idea whether any among our supporters will be travelling to Athens for the ESF.

What is the mechanism for getting such things on to the agenda and why do you, Halva, think it would be a miracle if we succeeded in doing so this time when we were successful last year? We would certainly welcome better contacts with similar groups across Europe and a push for getting 9/11, and perhaps the Madrid, London and Moscow bombings, on to the agenda might have a better chance of being successful if it were supported by groups in several countries.

We are a single issue network whether we like it or not, though we do make common cause with others, particularly over the issue of destruction of civil liberties and the persuit of this endless "War on Terror", which comes about as a result of false flag terror attacks. Our supporters are additionally involved in a whole raft of other issues in their personal capacity.

I believe we should make friends with groups concerned with other issues which impinge on ours and construct broad coalitions on matters of common concern, strictly on the basis of "NO ENDORSEMENT". We do not support all their perspectives and we don't expect them to support ours. We shouldn't worry about the "left gatekeepers". Just ask them the awkward questions like:

"Why do you dismiss us as 'conspiracy theorists' but not at the same time recognise that the White House theory that 19 Arab hijackers conspired with each other and bin Laden to fly planes into buildings is also a conspiracy theory?"

What we cannot afford to do is attempt to take up common positions on matters not within our remit, like "what kind of a Europe do we want?" To do so would only create divisions and splits among us.

Does that help?

Noel

[halva]