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 Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: The wire transfer of $100,000 to atta. |
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How do the critics here explain how the FBI (and subsequently several mainstream newspapers), reported that Mohammed Atta had been given $100,000 at the command of General Mahmoud Ahmed?
For those not familar with this. Mahmoud Ahmed worked for the Pakistani intelligence services (ISI) at the time. And was meeting with whitehouse officials on the morning of 9/11.
Was this report completely fabricated? if so why did he resign?
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And why was he, on the morning of 911, having bacon and eggs with Porter Goss?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/new_revelations_on_911.htm
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Also, where does the little matter of $100,000 transfer to "ringleader" Atta leave this statement made by the USA's top Fed Cop - FBI Director Robert Mueller to the Commonwealth Club of California, San Francisco, CA on April 19, 2002.
" and they made sure that all the money sent to them to fund their attacks was wired in small amounts to avoid detection. " ?
Link: http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/speeches/speech041902.htm |
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He was likely asking for his $100,000 bucks back seeing as how the planes were drones and didn't need a guy like Atta anyway!!
You CTers can't even agree amongst yourselves.... 
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Jef Ray wrote: | Quote: | | He was likely asking for his $100,000 bucks back seeing as how the planes were drones and didn't need a guy like Atta anyway!! |
That is seriously your answer to the issue of the $100,000 wire transfer???  - You can't be serious!
| Quote: | | You CTers can't even agree amongst yourselves.... |
No! - We don't all agree amoungst ourselves, that would be creepy. We are not forced to believe anything, and this website in particular allows the free flow of information and ideas free from dogma!
Now, how about you go and try to back up some of your laughable statements in the Operation Northwoods thread - I'm dying to see your attempts at wriggling out of that one.
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Hi Jay Ref
Ha Ha that's funny - nice one, amidst the gloom you have brought a smile to my face. Thank you.
I think we do all agree on at least one thing though Jay Ref.
The official story of 9/11 is full of holes, inconsistencies, lies, malfesiance, corruption and impossibilities.
That is why we are asking questions and trying to extend our knowledge and understanding of those terrible events.
Some constructive criticism from you would be most welcome.
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TimmyG
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He was likely asking for his $100,000 bucks back seeing as how the planes were drones and didn't need a guy like Atta anyway!!
You CTers can't even agree amongst yourselves....
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doesn't really answer the question does it?
you seem to be the least reasonable of the critics here jref. at least chipmunk is debating the evidence
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: The wire transfer of $100,000 to atta. |
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| TimmyG wrote: | How do the critics here explain how the FBI (and subsequently several mainstream newspapers), reported that Mohammed Atta had been given $100,000 at the command of General Mahmoud Ahmed?
For those not familar with this. Mahmoud Ahmed worked for the Pakistani intelligence services (ISI) at the time. And was meeting with whitehouse officials on the morning of 9/11.
Was this report completely fabricated? if so why did he resign? |
My concern with the story is that it eventually sources back to the Times of India, which may not be impartial when it comes to matters regarding Pakistan. Recall that the $100,000 wire was not mentioned in the 9-11 report. And I don't think he was meeting with White House Officials on 9-11; IIRC it was a breakfast with then Congressman Porter Goss and a couple other Congressmen/Senators. |
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my mistake on the specifics there about the nature of the meeting. thanks for correcting me
still doesn't change the fact that this is pretty serious evidence. why did ahmed 'resign' if there is nothing to the allegation?
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| TimmyG wrote: | my mistake on the specifics there about the nature of the meeting. thanks for correcting me
still doesn't change the fact that this is pretty serious evidence. why did ahmed 'resign' if there is nothing to the allegation? |
It's a pretty serious allegation; however, I have seen no evidence other than the one story. People quit/are fired for many different reasons. It could be the reason you suspect. |
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it seems an unusual coincidence that a newspaper would fabricate such a random story, and then the person in question would leave his position at the ISI.
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| Quote: | | Recall that the $100,000 wire was not mentioned in the 9-11 report |
yes. another reason why a new independent investigation is essential
and there has been more than one newspaper talking about this:
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/SheikhMahmood.htm
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Schedule of Pakistan's Chief of Military Intelligence Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, Washington, 4-13 September 2001
Summer 2001: ISI Chief Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad transfers $100,000 to 9-11 Ringleader Mohamed Atta.
4 September: Ahmad arrives in the US on an official visit.
4-9 September: He meets his US counterparts including CIA Head George Tenet.
9 September: Assassination of General Massood, leader of the Northern Alliance. Official statement by Northern Alliance points to involvement of the ISI-Osama-Taliban axis.
11 September: Terrorist Attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. At the time of the attacks, Lt General Ahmad was at a breakfast meeting at the Capitol with the chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees Sen Bob Graham and Rep Porter Goss. Also present at the meeting were Sen. John Kyl and the Pakistani ambassador to the U.S., Maleeha Lodhi.
12-13 September: Meetings between Lt. General Ahmad and Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Agreement on Pakistan's collaboration negotiated between Ahmad and Armitage. Meeting between General Ahmad and Secretary of State Colin Powell
13 September: Ahmad meets Senator Joseph Biden, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html
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Lets also not forget that Richard Armitage is a PNAC signatory. On 9/11 he was also Acting Secretary of State as Clin Poweel was on a visit to South America. Another coincidence?
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| andyb wrote: | | Lets also not forget that Richard Armitage is a PNAC signatory. On 9/11 he was also Acting Secretary of State as Clin Poweel was on a visit to South America. Another coincidence? |
thats very interesting. i didn't know that
this money link seems to be pretty strong evidence. i'm going to be writing to my mp about it
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