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Riaz Ahmed Editor
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: George Galloway on Sky News - 06.08.06 |
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Good morning Comrades,
Has any one seen George Galloway this morning on Sky News?
He was interviewed by a lady news presenter. I thought at one point she was going to cry.
George was brilliant in his interview, very powerful and told her like it is!
I hope someone can find a link to the interview. _________________ "The Greatest battle is within"
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TRUTH Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: Re: George Galloway on Sky News - 06.08.06 |
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Riaz Ahmed wrote: | Good morning Comrades,
Has any one seen George Galloway this morning on Sky News?
He was interviewed by a lady news presenter. I thought at one point she was going to cry.
George was brilliant in his interview, very powerful and told her like it is!
I hope someone can find a link to the interview. |
The video is here
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video |
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Riaz Ahmed Editor
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks,
Its so obvious where it is now.
_________________ "The Greatest battle is within"
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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This is the same George Galloway who cites a Hollywood film, United 93 as evidence that the official 9/11 story is fact.
I have heard George speak on many occasions and have been frequently brought to tears myself but he stubbornly refuses to examine the real evidence. |
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Skeptic Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see his not being involved in the 9/11 movement as any indication of his credibility
Say what you like about him, maybe he's a terrible politician on a local level - but that interview was brilliant |
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Busker Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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That was almost as good as the "George goes to Congress" coverage.
I think it'll be a while before he's invited back, don't you? |
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Riaz Ahmed Editor
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 123 Location: Bradford
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well,
to be honest, I have heard him on many occasion saying that he does not believe that the 9.11 was an inside job, which is a lttle unfortunate in many cases.
But you cant know him for standing up for the oppressed.
Nice Beard George!!!! _________________ "The Greatest battle is within"
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xxThe_Dice_manxx Minor Poster
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 42 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings
I'm not familiar with his background but for me that was outstanding and above all the TRUTH for once. _________________ MAD BAD AND DANGEROUS TO KNOW
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Skeptic wrote: | I don't see his not being involved in the 9/11 movement as any indication of his credibility |
I didn't say that, did I!? I wish people would bother to read before they launch into attack!
What I question is his belief that a Hollywood film constitutes evidence. Had you heard his own radio programme on which 9/11 was the topic of discussion the only two grounds for not believing that 9/11 was an inside job were a) that he couldn't believe that they would be able to keep it secret and b) that he had seen the film United 93.
To cite a Hollywood film as evidence is enough for me to question his judgement, ipso facto his credibility.
I say this with enormous regret because I have been a great admirer of his stand against the current crusade. |
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Skeptic Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Flamesong wrote: | Skeptic wrote: | I don't see his not being involved in the 9/11 movement as any indication of his credibility |
I didn't say that, did I!? I wish people would bother to read before they launch into attack!
What I question is his belief that a Hollywood film constitutes evidence. Had you heard his own radio programme on which 9/11 was the topic of discussion the only two grounds for not believing that 9/11 was an inside job were a) that he couldn't believe that they would be able to keep it secret and b) that he had seen the film United 93.
To cite a Hollywood film as evidence is enough for me to question his judgement, ipso facto his credibility.
I say this with enormous regret because I have been a great admirer of his stand against the current crusade. |
That's a fair point. |
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Been listening to him for 3 weekends now and have emailed articles and links for his perusal.
I'd very much doubt the mandate for the show could possibly include any
direct linkage to 11/9/01 conspiracy facts,if there were the show would be 'pulled'
I do find it "interesting"
that questions on human rights issues have suddenly become the vogue
since Israel's actions against Lebanon!
I know I find it easier to put my point of view across re the lack of action
by the world community,and in particular Bolton at the UN and their collusion,combined with the UN peace proposal!! how could Lebanon
agree to that?
Especially since it backs up what I said in my previous comments.
Bloody disgusted that it takes the deaths of innocents to help prove a point though.
Oh dear I'm ranting again,sorry!
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paul wright Moderator
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Scapegoat New Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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George was awesome. He was a hero on the battlefield. Poor Anna Botting was losing it. Every question she put to him, as silly as they sounded, George just blasted them to pieces. He was great.
By the way if you listen to talksport radio station, George holds a talk show there regularly and he's brilliant. |
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Riaz Ahmed Editor
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 123 Location: Bradford
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
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No need to apologize dh,
I know some people dont like him. But as far as I am concerened - he speaks the truth when it comes to defending the oppressed and does not woffle on like the main stream politicians.
He tells it as it is. And there are not many like him. That's what my opinion is based on - because at the moment Palistianins dont have a voice!
You call him a prick - I would go one step further and say that he has balls to go with it. _________________ "The Greatest battle is within"
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Scapegoat wrote: | ...By the way if you listen to talksport radio station, George holds a talk show there regularly and he's brilliant. |
In case you hadn't noticed, this is the forum of The British 9/11 Truth Campaign. On his radio talk show, George Galloway - for whom, as I stated above, I have had great admiration - consistantly ridicules anybody who challenges the official 9/11 account.
He may be an eloquent figurehead of the anti-war movement but his ignorant standpoint on 9/11 and his failure to present any real world evidence (see above) suggests that he may be marshalling attention away from the truth in the guise of the peoples' champion.
A veritable Pied Piper. |
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Narinder Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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I have to say I'm with Riaz with this one!
Topcat George is not like those other conventional politicians out there, yes I may just be a pawn in the game, but damn he can certainly get people's blood pumping, including myslef!
Light up George
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Narinder wrote: | I have to say I'm with Riaz with this one!
Topcat George is not like those other conventional politicians out there, yes I may just be a pawn in the game, but damn he can certainly get people's blood pumping, including myslef! |
Then maybe you (and Riaz) should go and join Respect because as I stated in the post before yours, George Galloway, by his naive criticism of 9/11 skepticism, is an opponent of this movement.
And as I have stated repeatedly, I have admired his stance against US led imperilism. But until he either presents something approaching a valid argument or opens his eyes and his mind to the truth, I have growing doubts about him. |
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Riaz Ahmed Editor
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 123 Location: Bradford
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: |
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falmesong
Quote: | In case you hadn't noticed, this is the forum of The British 9/11 Truth Campaign. On his radio talk show, George Galloway - for whom, as I stated above, I have had great admiration - consistantly ridicules anybody who challenges the official 9/11 account. |
Well, thats one thing I have never understood about George - his pure ignorance for 9.11.
Anyways, lets not turn this thread into slagging off George and lets concentrate on the real issues of converting people like George to the 9.11 Truth movement. _________________ "The Greatest battle is within"
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Riaz Ahmed Editor
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Please no personal attacks amongst us.
We are in it together. United we stand and divided we fall! _________________ "The Greatest battle is within"
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Riaz Ahmed wrote: | Anyways, lets not turn this thread into slagging off George and lets concentrate on the real issues of converting people like George to the 9.11 Truth movement. |
Good luck!
I didn't mention it earlier but I am actually acquainted with George and quite a few senior members of his party, Respect and one of its parent the SWP. For years I have been hammering on the door, so to speak but their refusal to listen seems systemic and, dare I say it, dogmatic. The frequency which questioning 9/11 elicited accusations of anti-Semitism left me with little doubt that this was very likely a policy comandment. If not, one would expect to see a similar, if not higher, level of skepticism amongst Respect/SWP to the general public. In reality there is little if any. Why is that? |
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Incidentally, until the resultant questioning of George Galloway's stance on 9/11, how was this thread 'News about 9/11' as the sub-forum description prescribes? |
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Forbin New Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Man, that was a great interview!
Flamesong wrote: | In case you hadn't noticed, this is the forum of The British 9/11 Truth Campaign. On his radio talk show, George Galloway - for whom, as I stated above, I have had great admiration - consistantly ridicules anybody who challenges the official 9/11 account. |
I recall last year that Galloway was interviewed on the Alex Jones show. When asked if he thought that 9/11 was an inside job, he said it was a possibility. _________________
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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That is not strictly true. In fact it is blatantly untrue!
InfoWars wrote: | Alex Jones: 'What do we do if the military-industrial complex carries out a terror attack to blame it on them?'
George Galloway: 'Well that's another very real danger. There's no way we can legislate for that but we we must be on guard. We need a vigilant citizenry.' |
No mention of 9/11. You wouldn't make a very good witness. |
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Forbin New Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Flamesong wrote: | That is not strictly true. In fact it is blatantly untrue!
InfoWars wrote: | Alex Jones: 'What do we do if the military-industrial complex carries out a terror attack to blame it on them?'
George Galloway: 'Well that's another very real danger. There's no way we can legislate for that but we we must be on guard. We need a vigilant citizenry.' |
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Hmm, the question I was thinking of; I don't recall it being asked in that way. But perhaps I misremembered. _________________
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well, having attempted to draw the attention of Respect, SWP and George Galloway to 9/11, believing that they would be great allies, I listened to the interview with great attention as it was broadcast. Had George Galloway said anything remotely suggestive of him questioning the official account, it would have pricked my ears. I think I have a full transcript and audio file at home which used to be on my website - but I won't be back for another week or so - I'll post it somewhere if I remember.
The misunderstanding may have occurred because Alex Jones threw a curve ball to George Galloway just as the interview was concluding and (if my memeory serves me well) during the cacophony of the closing music to Alex Jones' programme.
I'm afraid the George Galloway exhibits that he is anything but a 9/11 skeptic at every opportunity. |
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Forbin New Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well, given your interest in this area, I'm sure you were listening much more closely than me. Ack, I hate it when my brain lies to me
Its a shame that George doesn't get on board; he'd make an excellent ally. I can only presume that the 9/11 truth movement isn't currently compatible with his agenda. _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it's me but I couldn't find a link that worked here.
Here's one that does.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm
He is a brilliant advocate of the 'alternative' view. Could it be that he won't step forward on 9/11 because he calculates that that would mean the end to his media access? |
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | A veritable Pied Piper. |
He may be a distraction from 911 issues,but I still maintain he argues very well on the injustices against the people in Lebanon and Gaza.
Everyone must be able to see what is going on?
On the other hand, most may only see what they're told to see I suppose.
Quote: | He is a brilliant advocate of the 'alternative' view. Could it be that he won't step forward on 9/11 because he calculates that that would mean the end to his media access? |
As I indicated in my previous post,the mandate for the programme is to discuss only the ME problem, as if it's nothing to do with the west bar the arms supply issue,and no wider discussion is allowed. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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This debate is central to the reason why subjects like 9/11 do not become mainstream.
On the one hand we have in Galloway, an outspoken opponent of Bush, Bliar, the War of Terror, who represents a sizeable Muslim political constituency.
He is obviously intelligent, articulate, outspoken, unafraid of upsetting the status quo, yet like so many public figures will not touch issues like 9/11 with a bargepole.
It is reasonable to suggest that these people see for themselves the truth in such matters and that in George's case a number of his constituents and advisors would too.
Their silence cannot therefore be adduced to ignorance. There must be other reasons for it.
Meacher is a case in point. He was demonised as a "loon" long before 9/11 came along due to his outspoken views on environmental issues. That was enough to make him beyond the political pale, so by identifying with 9/11 he has less to lose than he otherwise would.
It seems to me that the "organised left" is in a complete mess over 9/11 and have reasoned therefore not to have anything to do with it.
However, we all know that they cannot justify this simply by claiming ignorance, because we know that they must now be aware of the body of evidence that speaks against the OCT.
The evidence therefore speaks as loudly to them as it does to us. They just don't repeat it.
Clearly, Respect and the SWP are keen to identify with the Muslim body politic, illegal wars, US imperialism etc., and yet remain apparently disconnected from it's obvious raison d'etre.
Why ?
Is it simply that to identify with the fraud of 9/11 would reduce any political credibility they have ?
Well, in George's case this doesn't seem to make sense.
The logical reaction would be to make political capital out of 9/11, especially in Tower Hamlets for example.
I'm assuming that Respect's wider political ambitions do not, at least in the short term, extend beyond the essential core constituent that they currently attract. So it's difficult to see any blowback from an association with 9/11, on the contrary it would seem to be a prudent tactic.
What better vehicle is there for dismantling "Islamophobia" than arguing our case ?
Maybe it's just too early to take that risk.
There is another angle to this though.
9/11 is a gift horse to the right. Some left leaning commentators have been saying so for some time.
9/11 could and probably does involve Israel if not in it's planning and execution, certainly as a beneficiary.
Problem.
This could be the real issue that 9/11 is beyond the pale for the left. Anti Semitism has been a bread and butter issue for the left and to chew the meat of this bone is antithetical to them.
A more palatable, traditional focus for the left is of course the right, hence Bush, the cute metaphor of "neocons", US imperialism, New Tory Bliarism etc.
Of course, there still remains the possibilty of the gatekeeper scenario, one that has a history, especially on the extreme left.
Does that scenario extend to Mr Galloway ? _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Probably,and I do agree with everything you have stated.
9/11 has more than likely been consigned to the dustbin of history,but it has awoken many to the true nature of the PTB.All that's left is the tellers of the truth in everyday life to persuade others. |
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