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Keith Mothersson Angel - now passed away
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Perth
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Muslim News carry an article by me |
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Pleased to report that the latest issue (July 28th) of the well-respected Muslim News (reaches 120,000 it says) carried the following version of my advert article, which is more spikey/’radical’ in places than the original.
RELEASE THE EVIDENCE
London - July 7th 2005. A day of slaughter, tears and solidarity. 56 precious lives lost, hundreds are injured, traumatised, bereaved. All of us made less secure, especially Muslims.
Before anyone could know, the Prime Minister hints at who was responsible. Despite the pre-war ‘framing’ of Iraq, most media rush to Islamophobic judgment. Although some people, including some Muslims, abuse their religion to target civilians, calm assessment should have suggested additional possibilities.
Apart from IRA or fascist bombs, State terrorism is far from unknown, ask the Irish, ask the survivors of the Bologna station massacre of 1980, successfully blamed on Red Brigade patsies (Reference 1)
The biggest slaughter since the Luftwaffe, yet a Public Inquiry would be ‘a distraction’. Too slow. Too expensive! We all know who did it, don’t we? But do ‘we’?
Take the lack of proof of the whereabouts of the designated perpetrators that morning. In the Luton station image (Photo image in attachment) ‘Hussain’s’ legs are incorrectly mirrored in glass, while ‘Khan’ appears entangled in the railings!
The Official Report says the men caught the 7.40 train, which runs contrary to the responsible officials at Thameslink, who repeatedly say the 7.40 didn’t run that day, while the 7.30 (left at 7.42) didn’t arrive until 8.39. (2) Having arrived by magic carpet, it isn’t perhaps too surprising that the reported movements of our four swarthy orientals at 8.26 and ‘around 8.30’ are equally peculiar.
Khan’s personal documents were found to have miraculously survived at the epicentre of three explosions. Lindsay’s DNA was allegedly found on his parking ticket – yet the government Report has his car towed away as unticketted.
Many credible initial reports were of military explosives, yet suddenly the story changed to HMTD or extremely unstable TATP – which doesn’t flash, so doesn’t match survivor accounts. ‘Expert examination continues’ – 10 months later! – ‘but it appears that the bombs were home made’ - wriggle room?
For the rest the Report ignores awkward material which doesn’t fit, e.g. the testimony of Aldgate survivor Bruce Lait and policewoman Lizzie Kenworthy, who independently reported a hole in the floor with the metal pushed up. (Perhaps the men got up even earlier and placed bombs under the trains that morning?)
No mention of radio and TV interviews with senior ex-policeman and security consultant, Peter Power: ‘At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning’.
As for the coincidences in Tavistock Sq – where a (doubtless innocent) van from a firm which offers specialist explosions appears to have drawn level with the rear of the 30 bus stopped just outside the offices of The Lancet – there is no possible public interest served by not reassuring Muslims and many others by releasing all the images from the working traffic cam.
From London, surveillance capital of the world, we have not one image of the four suspects on the day. Instead of connected footage from a score of cameras, we have to take alleged CCTV sightings on trust. But after the Lawrence Inquiry finding of ’institutional racism’, and now after Stockwell and Forest Gate, the Met have no right to demand trust .
It is clear that the police lied when they first said that the men were ‘cleanskins’ who had never come to their attention before, or only ‘peripherally’. It now seems that much time and money was spent on photographing Khan, tracking his car and tapping his phone. Why were transcripts of his conversations withheld from the Intelligence and Security Committee?
Recent articles and a book by Nafeez Ahmed (3) develop a ‘Londonistan’ picture of Kahn, Tanweer and others forming an exclusive ‘radical’ subculture in Beeston, and even being aided to make ‘secure’ contact with Finsbury Park and other figures linked to both ‘Al-Qaida’ and to MI5 and MI6. More and more people are asking not just ‘Could the Leeds 4 have been stopped? (the incompetence theory) but also ‘Did the authorities let it happen on purpose?’
However much ‘Leedsistan’ evidence is ambiguous: the London-end discrepancies demand we also ask: ‘Were Khan and his network being groomed as credible patsies?’ (and thus shielded from arrest before being duped or otherwise drawn in).
Many hypotheses remain open and jumping to premature conclusions will help no one. Nor will kneejerk sneers about ‘conspiracy theorists’. Most evidence must be released immediately – and progressive organisations must unite to force the rest of the truth to come out in a fully independent public inquiry with a wide remit, open procedures and ferocious legal powers, outwith the Inquiries Act 2005.
Anything less dishonours the dead and imperils the living.
References:
1) Nato’s Secret Armies, Daniele Ganser (Cass, 2005). See also Muslims, Jews and Christians Against 911 False Witness, www.mujca.com/ , and Scholars for 911 Truth www.st911.org/ .
2) Here and elsewhere see http://www.julyseventh.co.uk or http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/index.html
3) London Bombings – An Independent Inquiry (Duckworth, 2006)
Keith.mothersson@phonecoop.coop.
[the editor added that I was co-editor of julyseventh.co.uk] _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
May all beings be happy |
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Andrew Johnson Mighty Poster
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1919 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Keith,
This is a super development. Well done. _________________ Andrew
Ask the Tough Questions, Folks! |
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Jane Moderate Poster
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 312 Location: Otley, West Yorks, England
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: Well done, Keith! |
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Yes, count me in with Andrew there, Keith!
Congratulations!
Your message is finally being heard where it needs to be heard! _________________ Romans 12:2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
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sonic Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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WELL DONE KEITH, EXCELLENT!!!
Peace
Sonic. |
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Kier Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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To save repeating posts, this topic is also being discussed here. Keith also recently had an article published in a Buddhist journal.
Thanks again, Keith. |
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wepmob2000 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 431 Location: North East England
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Well done
So now we know, it was all a conspiracy between the FBI, CIA, MI6 and Mossad, who brainwashed some boy scouts to carry out the bombings. Then we can blame the Muslims and take over the world, Mwa ha ha.
Gee thats brilliant boys, what next we bombed London during the war to make Germany look bad? |
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scar Moderate Poster
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Jane Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: What's happening in Lebanon and Palestine |
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dh and I both attended this meeting this afternoon in Bradford - having not planned to go together.
Quote: | What's happening in Lebanon and Palestine
Carlisle Business Centre, Carlisle Road, Manningham
Sunday 13 August
2:30-6:00pm
With range of speakers including Karl Dallas who will talk
about Bradford Palestine Solidarity group.
All welcome |
Karl Dallas and Helen John (whom I had tried to phone this morning, intending to ask her to be there, not knowing she had already arranged to go and be a speaker!) both gave a speach. I feel immenesely proud to know them both - they are both getting older (I think Karl must be nearly 80!) but they are stronger and braver (essentially "fearless") then your average 16 year old!
Other people, including someone who used to work for the BBC, gave speaches as well, and most of them were encouraging the Muslim Community to be brave and speak out (as the Muslim MP's did) about what is going on - however, none of them, including Karl and Helen, however much I love and admire them and how some people may see them as members of "Reinvestigate 9/11" said a word to even encourage anyone in the room to consider that the recent accusations against the "Muslim Terrorists" may not be true! I certainly have no intenetion of criticising anyone who spoke - expecially Karl and Helen - but if only our message could get out at meetings like this - it would give the whole situation a totally different twist!
However, I certainly don't think the answer is to stand up and start sounding off about our views at such meetings...I think dh did the best thing - in leaving lots of our DVD's and leaflets out along with all the other literature on the tables before we left! That way people will pick them up, curious to know what they are, read it and play it and ...well I think that is the best way to grab their attention...
Not anger, shouting matches or calling people "Lier" who have no idea what you are talking about! _________________ Romans 12:2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1628
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim News carry an article by me |
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keith wrote: | In the Luton station image ‘Hussain’s’ legs are incorrectly mirrored in glass, while ‘Khan’ appears entangled in the railings!
The Official Report says the men caught the 7.40 train, which runs contrary to the responsible officials at Thameslink, who repeatedly say the 7.40 didn’t run that day, while the 7.30 (left at 7.42) didn’t arrive until 8.39. (2) Having arrived by magic carpet, it isn’t perhaps too surprising that the reported movements of our four swarthy orientals at 8.26 and ‘around 8.30’ are equally peculiar.
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Yes, you would have thought the technical expertise of the security services would be up to using Photoshop, wouldn't you?
The train time has now been corrected, I think |
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numeral Validated Poster
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 500 Location: South London
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim News carry an article by me |
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Bushwacker wrote: | keith wrote: | In the Luton station image ‘Hussain’s’ legs are incorrectly mirrored in glass, while ‘Khan’ appears entangled in the railings!
The Official Report says the men caught the 7.40 train, which runs contrary to the responsible officials at Thameslink, who repeatedly say the 7.40 didn’t run that day, while the 7.30 (left at 7.42) didn’t arrive until 8.39. (2) Having arrived by magic carpet, it isn’t perhaps too surprising that the reported movements of our four swarthy orientals at 8.26 and ‘around 8.30’ are equally peculiar.
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Yes, you would have thought the technical expertise of the security services would be up to using Photoshop, wouldn't you?
The train time has now been corrected, I think |
Do you think so? Reid stated:
Quote: | In that context, I tell the House tonight that, at the end of last week, I was told that a discrepancy had indeed come to light. The official account that we provided to the House states that the train on which the bombers travelled left Luton station at 7.40 am. The police have now told us that that is incorrect—the train in fact left Luton station at 7.25 am. It did, however, arrive at Kings Cross at 8.23 am, as recorded in the official account. Although that does not appear to affect anything else in the official account, it is nevertheless an error, which is why I report it to the House. I can understand why this may be of concern to some. I have asked the police, as Members would expect, for a full report on how that discrepancy came about. I will ensure that the official account is amended and will write to the survivors and to the families of the victims on this matter. |
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060711/de btext/60711-0875.htm
Why would anyone think the 7.25 time was correct? _________________ Follow the numbers |
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim News carry an article by me |
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numeral wrote: | [quote="Bushwacker
The train time has now been corrected, I think |
Do you think so? Reid stated:
Quote: | The police have now told us that that is incorrect—the train in fact left Luton station at 7.25 am. It did, however, arrive at Kings Cross at 8.23 am, as recorded in the official account. |
Why would anyone think the 7.25 time was correct?[/quote]
Because in the course of proving the inaccuracy of the official account of them using the cancelled 7.40 train the 7/7 truth movement website has been carrying an e-mail from Thameslink's Communications Manager dated 25.8.05 giving the schedule and actual train times that day, which show a train leaving at 7.25. |
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numeral Validated Poster
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Reid said: Quote: | The official account that we provided to the House states that the train on which the bombers travelled left Luton station at 7.40 am. The police have now told us that that is incorrect—the train in fact left Luton station at 7.25 am. |
Why would anyone think that the train on which the bombers travelled was the one that left Luton station at 7.25? _________________ Follow the numbers |
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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numeral wrote: | Reid said: Quote: | The official account that we provided to the House states that the train on which the bombers travelled left Luton station at 7.40 am. The police have now told us that that is incorrect—the train in fact left Luton station at 7.25 am. |
Why would anyone think that the train on which the bombers travelled was the one that left Luton station at 7.25? |
Huh? Because that is the only train that fits with the timeline. |
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numeral Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Bushwacker wrote: | numeral wrote: | Reid said: Quote: | The official account that we provided to the House states that the train on which the bombers travelled left Luton station at 7.40 am. The police have now told us that that is incorrect—the train in fact left Luton station at 7.25 am. |
Why would anyone think that the train on which the bombers travelled was the one that left Luton station at 7.25? |
Huh? Because that is the only train that fits with the timeline. |
Why would the narrative say 7.40 then? _________________ Follow the numbers |
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: |
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numeral wrote: | Bushwacker wrote: | numeral wrote: | Reid said: Quote: | The official account that we provided to the House states that the train on which the bombers travelled left Luton station at 7.40 am. The police have now told us that that is incorrect—the train in fact left Luton station at 7.25 am. |
Why would anyone think that the train on which the bombers travelled was the one that left Luton station at 7.25? |
Huh? Because that is the only train that fits with the timeline. |
Why would the narrative say 7.40 then? |
That is what Reid has asked the police to make a report about. My guess is that they simply looked at the timetable and put in the scheduled train that fitted, without checking on the actual times. |
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numeral Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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The 0740 is timetabled to arrive at 8.16. Why did the narrative say it arrived at 8.23? _________________ Follow the numbers |
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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numeral wrote: | The 0740 is timetabled to arrive at 8.16. Why did the narrative say it arrived at 8.23? |
I did not write the narrative! But I suppose it was because a train did arrive at 8.23, as confirmed by Thameslink, and presumably they had that time from records at Kings Cross. The mistake was in the apparent assumption that it was the 7.40 slightly late, whereas it was actually the 7.25 very late. |
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numeral Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Bushwacker wrote: | numeral wrote: | The 0740 is timetabled to arrive at 8.16. Why did the narrative say it arrived at 8.23? |
I did not write the narrative! But I suppose it was because a train did arrive at 8.23, as confirmed by Thameslink, and presumably they had that time from records at Kings Cross. The mistake was in the apparent assumption that it was the 7.40 slightly late, whereas it was actually the 7.25 very late. |
I would not even try to explain it. The MPS, in response to Reid's statement, said that they had never supplied the time the train left Luton to the Home Office. They said that the Home Office must have got the 7.40 time from two "erroneous firsthand witness statements" which the MPS passed on to the Home Office. The MPS are playing their cards very close to their chest. They will not give out any information if they can avoid doing so. _________________ Follow the numbers
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Jane Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: Paying attention |
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They (I'm never quite sure who "they" are personally!) but "they" assume they can get away with all their grossly inaccurate reporting because no one is really paying close attention to what is going on.... I see it as like in a dream when (to quote “someone I know at work” - recent dream) strange things are going on - like you are keeping a panther in your office as a pet - your only concern being that it might suddenly "turn nasty" and attack you or someone else in the college! You never think "What the hell's going on here? We've got a panther in the office - this must be a dream or something!"
That's how I see it anyway, folks!
Well whoever makes up the nonsense that goes on in these "dreams" (I always strongly suspect that we are all in some way collectively responsible!!) - they have just been in for some big surprises! Some of us DO NOTICE and shall continue to notice all the inaccuracies in the dream landscape (and I think consequently the inaccuracies will become more and more blatant!).... because we are starting to see what is really going on and how nonsense the whole thing is for almost everyone involved (whether they realise it or not) and how it all could all be so much better... _________________ Romans 12:2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
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scar Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Paying attention |
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Damn right Jane!
Global Awakening, Aquarius Initiation, call it what you will, it is spreading like a virus, running rampant, out of their control.
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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As you say, Jane, it was noticed, and lead to Reid having to make that statement to the Commons, which will not have pleased him at all. He is not the man to suffer an embarrassment like that without taking it out on someone, and there are probably some Home Office officials and policeman with very sore backsides! |
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Jane Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Damn right Jane!
Global Awakening, Aquarius Initiation, call it what you will, it is spreading like a virus, running rampant, out of their control. |
Yes, hope so Darling! Surely the "Holographic Universe" can do better then this bloody mess we are currently in!!!
Quote: | As you say, Jane, it was noticed, and lead to Reid having to make that statement to the Commons, which will not have pleased him at all. He is not the man to suffer an embarrassment like that without taking it out on someone, and there are probably some Home Office officials and policeman with very sore backsides! |
I really intensely “dislike” that “Reid” b* for some reason…I try not to “hate” any of these “robots” as they are clearly not “Real people” yet – what is it with him? I can tell that Bush and Blair are not “Real” –but the “Reid” character? God, he is just so bloody sanctimonious – I would really like to give him a good slap across the face – and I am not a violent little person generally _________________ Romans 12:2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
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Bicnarok Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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excellent artikel |
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