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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Schnews and 9/11 Reply with quote

At last schnews acknowledges our existence. Steady guys.

It would be nice if 'they' would actually express an opinion as to whether our call for a new investigation is justified, but give it time.

As for David Shayler being 'our poster boy', this warrants correction. We don't have 'poster boys' or 'poster girls' for that matter. We don't endorse any one person's presentation of the evidence.

In short 'we', this site, will publicise anyone challenging the official 'truth' of 9/11 from Michael Meacher to David Icke (ahhh, run for the hills). Basically any one. Provided they are not promoting hatred, bigotry or contravene our principles, 'we' will promote them and welcome them

Geddit. Not a hard concept.

Further, in saying that 'we' see the anti-war movement as fertile ground for recruitment as if we are somehow separate from it, it should be pointed out we are (part of the) anti-war movement.

As for their words of wisdom that

"There is one conspiracy that doesn't lurk in smoky rooms behind closed doors - it's called global capitalism."

I would just say yes and no. Yes, spot on global capitalism is a conspiracy (a conspiracy of the rich against the poor), but it is both conducted openly and conducted in 'smoky rooms'. If schnews don't understand the smoky rooms bit, then they don't understand the true nature of global capitalism, despite their undoubted experience and credability within anti-capitalist movement.

Tell you what, schnews, why not send a reporter to Saturday's DRG event (if you can't make tomorrow but want to genuinely take a look at 9/11 evidence I can arrange for you to attend a smaller closed presentation on Tuesday, PM me).

I welcome your interest in 'us' and basically see 'us all' on the same side. I only hope schnews can see this to be true as well

Anyway here's what they have to say

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8th September 2006, Issue 559

WAKE UP!! WAKE UP!! IT'S YER PLANE CRAZY...

SchNEWS

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TRUTH-ACHE - On the fifth anniversary, SchNEWS gingerly dips a toe
into the murky waters of the great 9-11 debate...

It's the big fight over 'the truth'. In the blue corner we have
the US government's official version of 9-11 events and in all the
other corners we have proponents of various 'conspiracy' theories.
But in these days of governments caught telling outright lies
about WMDs etc, and a massive groundswell of cynicism about any
official pronouncement - just what is a conspiracy theory? What
happens when 'common sense' is hijacked and the fringe goes
mainstream? And does it matter anyway?

The self-proclaimed 9-11 truth movement, in many ways a genuine
grassroots movement (or cult?), is growing and its ideas are
gradually filtering into the mainstream. No anti-war event is
complete now without a new 9-11 conspiracy DVD and flyers to some
new talk / book launch - and our inbox often overflows with new
'revelations'. Every possible, and some quite impossible angles
are covered - from the relatively mainstream question marks
hanging over the US administration's possible advance knowledge of
the plot, to off-planet assertions about holograms, missiles and
alien DNA. This kind of thing will always delight the 'Elvis faked
the moon landings with a black helicopter' Internet crowd, but
with polls showing that a third of Americans and nearly half of
New Yorkers believing US officials either knew about the attacks
or were actively involved, this represents a major uprising of
disbelief. This has forced the US govt into producing a series of
rebuttals, asserting their 'truth' and challenging the
accusations.

The two main strands of theorising could be summed up as "they
knew in advance" and "the whole thing was faked". At the more
plausible end we have the idea that the Neo-Cons had anticipated
or were complicit in the events of 9-11. In any case, the event
enabled them to put into practice an agenda for global domination
hatched years before. It is all laid out in the year 2000 paper,
'Rebuilding America's Defenses' published by the Project for a New
American Century, a think-tank whose members included Cheney,
Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz (See SchNEWS 387). It talked about the fact
that a "catastrophic and catalyzing event - a new Pearl Harbor"
would be needed to transform the public's attitude to war.
Certainly there were no flies on the Cheney-Bush axis when it came
to taking advantage of 9-11's propaganda value, and even now Bush
routinely invokes it as an emblem of America's need to be
militarily aggressive.

At the other end of the reality spectrum, are those that are sure
that all the buildings were pre-primed with explosives, that all
the Jews who worked there were given advanced warning, that the
planes never existed and were in fact holograms disguising
missiles etc etc. The trouble with all these theories is that they
require mind-boggling numbers of people to have been 'in on it'.
It seems unlikely that the clique responsible for the disaster in
Iraq could have organised something so slickly. And why would they
need to go to the trouble? Two planes striking the towers would
have been more than enough to serve as the big catalytic terrorist
event... And if you were orchestrating the whole thing, why bother
faking it with missiles or holograms anyway? Just use real
planes... much simpler.

Perhaps this is why too much speculation on these points
eventually leads inevitably to a paranoiac world view, a secret
cabal who must control everything from behind the scenes - only
they could pull the wool over everone's eyes in such an
all-encompassing way.

SHAYLER TRASH

The 'truths' arrived at by some of these theories are so way out
there, we began to wonder if they'd been spread deliberately to
sow confusion, making it easier for the authorities to discredit
the whole 9-11 debate by association. Conspiracy on conspiracy -
where does it end?

There's no doubt that big questions about the role of the US
government remain unanswered (for example, relationships with
Saudi elites), but it seems they're in danger of being drowned out
by the clamour of outright lunacy.

Poster-boy of the UK branch of the 9-11 Truth movement is former
MI5 agent David Shayler. An acknowledged 'insider', he must have
seemed a great asset to the fraternity. But at the Big Green
Gathering this year, SchNEWS were confronted with the spectacle of
a man who appeared to have swallowed and regurgitated the entire
works of David "blame the lizards" Icke. No stone was left turned,
no subject demystified as Dave told us how aliens have been
negotiating with our government and 500 abductees are the only
people who've got any real idea about all this 9-11 stuff. That
includes 7/7 and 11/7 (date of Mumbai bombings by the way) - all
evidence of an underground plot by a 'shadow Zionist secret
government'. Amongst other interesting points conjured forth were
that the Royal family is descended from multi-dimensional Annunaki
lizards (and 'flaws' in evolutionary theory prove it!) Riveting
though this stuff is, it is, unfortunately, a load of *.

On the other hand, the documented existence of a shadow world of
CIA mounted black-ops and coups makes the idea that 9-11 was a
'false flag' operation seem within the realms of possibility.
American intelligence has a long and bloody history of covert
operations, instigating coups and funding opposition against those
that challenge their authority. Coups such as the one on the less
well remembered September 11th - 1973, when the CIA helped
overthrow the democratically elected leader of Chile, Salvador
Allende, and usher in a brutal military dictatorship. Doubts over
9-11, the cornerstone of the US's ideological crusade, make it
easier to appreciate that it's just all in a days work for the US
to fund and arm people like Saddam and the anti-Soviet forces in
Afghanistan, which gave rise to Al-Qaeda.

The fact that these theories are catching on so widely is partly
due to the huge growth of scepticism about the role of governments
in the entire War on TerrorT. In this country we already know that
our government plotted the war on Iraq well in advance, lied about
Iraq's WMDs and engaged in a systematic propaganda campaign to
support the invasion. We know that our government, in alliance
with the US, is engaged in secret renditions, torture and
aggressive war. Public awareness of the true nature of power has
probably never been higher - and the fact that so many are willing
to believe that the US government may have slaughtered its own
citizens shows how the ideological ground is shifting. It's not,
in the end, the truth of the allegations but the effect they're
having that's important.

The 9-11 truth movement clearly sees the anti-war crowd as fertile
recruiting ground (maybe we should return the compliment). They
argue that proving 9-11 a hoax should be the main focus of any
faction opposing the Neo-Con-men. But in reality, whether or not
they orchestrated 9-11 (let alone it actually be proven), we
should be concentrating on the broader US-led capitalist agendas,
and their catastrophic consequences. 9-11 was a symptom rather
than a cause of a 'big picture' which doesn't need science fiction
to explain it. World power is not a neat pyramid structure with
aliens, Jews or a cabal of men with a secret handshake at the top.
It makes more sense to see a range of competing power blocks,
alliances and cartels in a shifting, perpetual power play - with
governments, nationalist and business interests doing what they've
always done, battling for control of land, resources, workforces
and populations. There is one conspiracy that doesn't lurk in
smoky rooms behind closed doors - it's called global capitalism.

JUMP IN AT THE DEEP END...

** www.911truth.org ** www.911research.com **
www.whatreallyhappened.com/inside.html ** ** www.letsroll911.org
** ** Watch the movie made by an amateur on no budget:
www.loosechange911.com ** For the British perspective see -
www.nineeleven.co.uk and
www.whatreallyhappened.com/london_exercise_video.html **

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DROP THE PILOT

Plane Stupid have called for a day of action against short-haul
flights on November 6th - 2 days after the mass climate change
event in London. This is a public call out to anyone who opposes
the unsustainable growth in air travel (See SchNEWS 554). Half of
all flights in Europe are to destinations less than 500km away -
that's the equivalent of London to the Scottish border. That's
places like Manchester or Paris that are easily reachable by
train, bus or ferry - all alternatives which are far less
polluting. Local groups are encouraged to target short-haul flight
operators in their area, using creative direct action to wake
people up a bit.

For instance, on Sept 1st activists attached a banner stating
"Stop Airport Expansion" to helium balloons and let them float to
the ceiling of Bristol Airport. In Norwich, people dressed as
stewardesses and handed out leaflets outside a travel agents,
urging people to fly less.

On November 4th there will be a Day Of International Climate
Protest coinciding with the UN Climate Talks in Nairobi Nov
6-17th. There will be protests in London with a Climate Rally at
the US Embassy, Grosvenor Sq at 12pm, and a Mass Demo at Trafalgar
Square between 1 and 3pm.

See www.planestupid.com and www.globalclimatecampaign.org

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BAe WATCH

Last Friday an entrance at BAe System's factory in Brough, North
Humberside, was blockaded by a noise demo with local campaigners,
Rhythms Of Resistance samba band and activists from the Camp
Against Climate Change. After encountering three van loads of
police when they arrived at Brough station, the group moved
towards the factory, and blockaded the entrance which employees
had been diverted to, and then left without any arrests.

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RIBBLE ROUSERS

Areas of green land around Frenchwood Rec Ground, at the River
Ribble near Preston, are threatened with destruction to make way
for housing developments, and the banks of the river to be
concreted for boat moorings and a proposed water sports park.
There will be a ramble this Sunday 10th along the river edge
affected - meet at the Avenham Park end of the Old Tram Bridge at
2pm.
* For more http://save-the-ribble.blogspot.com

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ROUND THE HORN

Squatters living next to derelict Hornsey Hospital (149 Park Road,
Crouch End, London) are facing eviction. A group of 20 originally
moved into the Old Nurses Home - empty for 5 years - early last
year and left by agreement with the council in January. Three
months later, they returned to find the building was being trashed
and covered in such pleasant rubbish as faeces and needles. Moving
back in, they cleaned and renovated the place, making plans to
develop the gardens to open up as a community space.

Now the owners, Camden and Islington Mental and Social Health Care
Trust want them out to sell the land off, presumably eyeing up
some profitable luxury flat development or other, but the
squatters want to stay until the building is put back into
community use. "This building is meant to be for the people of
Hornsey and Haringey. If we are here, we look after the building
and stop kids vandalising it. Instead of demanding a council flat,
we are using, maintaining and protecting derelict council
property. Our ideal situation would simply be to be left here
until they actually do something positive with the building." They
have widespread local support and a 500 strong petition but now
face imminent eviction. That's what you get for an attempt to
demonstrate real care in the community...

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BANG TO RIOTS

British mining company Asia Energy was forcibly booted out of
Bangladesh last week. 30,000 rioted in Phulbari, north-west
Bangladesh during the weekend of August 26th over their US$1.4
billion plan for a massive open-cast coal mine in the area which
would impact on 100 villages, displace 100,000 people and destroy
the landscape. When a crowd tried to enter the firm's offices,
paramilitaries tear-gassed and fired on the crowd killing six and
injuring 300. On Monday 28th, protesters torched and ransacked
buildings and homes including that of an Asia Energy manager,
while educational institutions across the country went on strike.
Two days later there was a nationwide general strike with
blockaded roads and railways; then the following day the
Bangladeshi Government bowed under the pressure and cancelled the
mine.

* For more see
http://libcom.org/news/bangladesh-unrest-bhulpari-mining-garment-indus try-310806

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SET TO STUN

The European Microwave Conference is on at GMEX in Manchester on
10-15th Sept. But this conference is not just about the use of
microwaves for communications or domestic use because
"...microwave is a fast growing sector in network-centric warfare
as it is at the heart of the infrastructure, data link,
communications and surveillance systems used on all air, ground,
ship and space platforms." The EMC will focus on military uses and
feature 34 companies who supply parts for weapons systems such as
F-15s & F-16s fighters, Apache helicopters, Hellfire and Trident
missiles. The firms there will include Brighton's own bomb factory
EDO-MBM, who make parts for Hellfire missiles (see
www.smashedo.org.uk)

There will be a Day Of Action on September 11th at the GMEX from
8.30am organised by Manchester CND. For more call 0161 2738283 see
www.gmdcnd.org.uk

* Smash EDO are having a Mass March against EDO's Complicity in
War Crimes in Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan on
Saturday, Sept 16th. Meet 12pm at The Level, Brighton.
www.smashedo.org.uk

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Inside SchNEWS

* Animal rights activist Sarah Whitehead has been remanded until
further notice in connection with alleged witness intimidation and
harassment against a pet shop owner/breeder. Please send letters
of support to: Sarah Whitehead NR9244, HMP Bronzefield, Woodthorpe
Road, Ashford, Middlesex TW15 3JZ, England.

* Also, a Polish anti-fascist has been sentenced to 3 months for
failing to comply with a community order. Igor Kisielwwicz was
originally convicted for getting physical with a neo-nazi. Send
urgent letters of support to Igor Kisielewicz, syn Aleksandra,
A.S. Bialystok, Kopernika 21, 15-377 Bialystok, Poland and see
www.spiritoffreedom.org.uk

* The American freelance journalist, Josh Wolf, locked up for
refusing to hand over video footage of anti-G8 protesters (See
SchNEWS 555) has been released on bail. For more see his blog at
www.joshwolf.net/blog

* Ernesto Leal, a Chilean who escaped the Pinochet regime with his
family as a child, and has been living in the UK for 30 years, has
won his fight to stay in the country. This comes after
Neo-Labour's push to deport foreign nationals who have served
prison sentences, of which Ernesto is one after serving time in
2003 for a grievous bodily harm conviction following a racially
motivated pub brawl (See SchNEWS 542). For more see
www.friendsofernesto.org.uk

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Ox Tale

Ah, that venerated seat of learning, Oxford University. That
production line for middle- and upper-class bright, and/or
well-connected, young types to ease their way into the top
echelons of society. All with the very best teaching, support and
resources money can buy, of course. Leaders in fields like animal
experimentation and defence related research. With a longer
unbroken history as being part of the establishment than
parliament, just who is busy propping it up these days?

In 2003, charitable institutions and businesses paid a staggering
92 million quid to the university with a further £70 mill coming
from research councils and Government agencies. No wonder they
aren't worried about the whole 'increase top-up fees or face
funding shortage' debate. Included in the roll-call of the rich
and powerful of our times are the usual range of big computer
firms, mobile phone companies, big oil, defence contractors,
animal testing supporters like Mars/Masterfoods and other
do-gooders.

Whilst the good ol' US military coughed up nearly £700,000's worth
of influence, Rolls-Royce topped the lot with nearly a million of
funding on their own - good to know the powerful of the next
generation are being looked after by such noble causes. Full list
of funders at www.speakcampaigns.org.uk/Contact_the_funders.php

* For more about Oxford's funding, Mars/Masterfoods Inc and both
their roles in animal cruelty see
www.speakcampaigns.org.uk/events/20060821george-mars.php

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Arabian Flights

A man was prevented from boarding his flight at Kennedy Airport in
New York last month. Suspicions were raised when Raed Jarrar, an
Iraqi human rights activist, was spotted with a t-shirt declaring,
"We will not be silent" in English and Arabic. Security insisted
he turn the shirt inside out, but Raed refused. He eventually
agreed to wear another shirt over the offending article rather
than miss his flight. As one clear-thinking obviously not racist
official told him, "Going to an airport with a T-shirt in Arabic
script is like going to a bank and wearing a T-shirt that says,
'I'm a robber."' For more see his blog
http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com

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...and finally...

Psst! Don't anyone tell but we've discovered a fatal flaw in the
defences of American war planes. The secret came out when a group
of people tried to enter the Canadian National Exhibition (CNE)
grounds in Toronto at the end of the Labour Day parade, but were
barred from entering until they'd popped all the bunches of
colourful balloons they were carrying. Apparently, US fighters
were due to roar past overhead imminently and the presence of
rogue balloons could be incredibly dangerous to them! Sadly, quite
how they could be targeted at the planes was never explained. The
winged harbingers of death were there to support the clean
family-fun entertainment extravaganza - sponsored by a
community-concious donut chain, whose charitable foundation's
motto is "helping children gain a positive view of the world."

During this event - which is the Canada's largest family fair -
the military PR machine rolled out their own 'house of horrors'
attraction where kids could get the chance to feel the comforting
weight of an assault rifle, sit in tanks and warplane cockpits,
and generally thrill at the guided missiles and assorted hardware.
Huge posters advertised upwards of $8,000 in free tuition for
those signing up with the forces. Well... anything for the kids!

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sections on regular events, local events, protest camps and
more...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some inaccuracies in the Schnews article, which I feel I must correct as they appear to be designed to undermine my position in the 9/11 Truth network.

"No stone was left turned, no subject demystified as Dave told us how aliens have been negotiating with our government and 500 abductees are the only people who've got any real idea about all this 9-11 stuff."

I have never said any of the above or anything remotely like it.

That includes 7/7 and 11/7 (date of Mumbai bombings by the way) - all
evidence of an underground plot by a 'shadow Zionist secret
government'.

After leaving office, President Theodore Roosevelt drew attention to the existence of a shadow or invisible government, based on his experience in office. Most obviously this is a conspiracy of hyper-capitalist interests like the oil industry and the arms industry and the Federal Reserve, a cabal of private banks who control the money flow and therefore the world's economy.

Are Schnews trying to tell us that the Zionists and the State of Israel play no part in the disintegration of a peaceful world? We only have to look at how Israel has largely got away with its assault on Lebanon to realise that is the case.

I hope Schnews journalists haven't made the mistake of the capitalist press and ventured opinions on subjects they have not researched, just for their own propaganda. There are a number of unanswered questions about 7/7, detailed in Mind the Gap.

"Amongst other interesting points conjured forth were
that the Royal family is descended from multi-dimensional Annunaki
lizards (and 'flaws' in evolutionary theory prove it!) Riveting
though this stuff is, it is, unfortunately, a load of *. "

I didn't say the above either, although I have on occasions mentioned that David Icke has talked about this. It is not my view. On macro-evolution, Charles Darwin said that his hypothesis on the mutation of species would stand or fall on the discovery of fossils proving this. After 150 years of looking, not a single fossil has been found to support this hypothesis.

I've been to prison twice for my beliefs, been subject to what appear to be three attempts on my life in suspicious car accidents and find myself blacklisted -- all for standing up for the truth and exposing the intelligence services. If Schnews had campaigned in support of my efforts to expose the evil at the heart of the secret state, rather than custard pie-ing me the evening I received an award from Privacy International for my work defending civil liberties [Note: I added this - Annie], then several thousand innocent Afghans and over 100,000 innocent Iraqis might not be dead.

Until the truth of 9/11 and other false flag operations are exposed, the shadow government will continue to murder in the name of profit and pervert the democratic process through its ownership of the media and control of political parties by donation.

So why is Schnews spreading inaccuracies which work in the interests of this shadow elite at the very time we should be uniting to expose this evil? Why are they denying the existence of Zionism and attacking those risking death to expose the truth about MI5, MI6, Mossad and the CIA, especially when the evidence for that truth is overwhelming?

We need to learn the lessons of the failure of the mainstream and alternative left over the last 25 years, otherwise the innocent will continue to die. In that vein, I ask Schnews to come to any of our events to find out the truth and welcome working with all those who are trying to expose the New World Order or Capitalist elite, whatever you want to call them.

Dave Shayler

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