what is going on

[fixuplooksharp]

shayler chatting about holograms.....who thinks this is bad for the movement. this just increase's the liklihood that people are not going to listen to us....normal people who do have an open mind will go nah...this is too x-files etc....please shut up now before you do anymore damage!

[TimmyG]

completely trashing it!

theres about as much evidence it was holograms than there is evidence that the whole thing was organised by aliens

[fixuplooksharp]

who said helping it? arghhhhhhhhhhhhh


im speechless

[Bicnarok]

Its a clever ploy to discredit those posing decent questions.

Ok the planes had no windows and looked nothing like passenger jets, but they were planes, the sound of them flying by can be heard on some video footage. Loads of people saw them, and they can´t all be lying.

Ok if you want to be imaginative maybe everyone was brainwashed by a brain ray from a space satelite, the planes were actually holograms made by some advanced technology that the NWO got from the lizard blood drinking bohemian owl worshipers. But its the less likely possibility imo.

[sr4470]

[mason-free party]

makes no difference...enough smoking guns already proven

[JimB]

[Mark Gobell]

Can we all just take a step back for a moment and think about this, clearly and logically without emotion. Please.

Many people on here and elsewhere are interested in the veracity of the video and pictorial record of the day regarding aircraft.

I recall a related aircraft issue being an early point of debate regarding pods.

Did we then recoil from discussing such issues as being potentially "damaging" ?

What is this alleged damage that some are so fearful of ?

Damage, it seems clear, is the fear that the aircraft debate may provide ammunition for those who wish to discredit us.

If we are all agreed on that premise then we should examine the claim surely.

The only "damage" that 911 Truth can suffer is for it to be disproved.

If our principle allegations of, for example, CD can be damaged, then let them be damaged. Damage and debunk them if you can should be our position. The same position should be adopted for all points of debate and every piece of evidence.

If there is a fear that the 911 Truth case will be presented to a court anytime soon, based upon, as yet, unproven allegations regarding aircraft then that fear is misplaced. It ain't going to happen.

The case for 911 Truth is strong and robust. It stands alone, unhindered by the numerous theories associated with it. That should not mean that we feel inclined to close the book. 9/11 is a huge, huge subject, about which, many admit, we may never be able to know totally.

If some are motivated to look into other, less fashionable areas of research then we have several choices to make:

One can either, ignore it, engage with it, disprove it or try to make it go away.

We should each make our own informed choice.

I for one would countenance reason with the same open mind that enabled each of us to question 9/11 in the first place.

Those who are vocal about censorship might consider ignoring the debate, or alternatively, engagement with it, if only to disprove it.

I choose the path of engagement rather than enforced silence. Every time.

I strongly agree with the principles of this forum and therefore strongly disagree with any attempts at silencing those who wish to discuss anything.

We should not choose to silence those who call for a debate to be silenced, as we should not choose to silence that debate.

[Jane]

[Roger the Horse]

NPT can easily be used and manipulated by the media so any 'fair and rational' TV, radio or newspaper debate can have debunkers on one side and NPT believers on the other. To any uninformed person watching or listening they might easily assume that MOST 911 skeptics believe in the NPT. Also any article can lead in with a simple paragraph along the lines of '911 conspiracy theorists believe that the WTC towers were destroyed by controlled demolition, that the US governement was involved and that there were actually no planes!'. I could see a situation in the future where it will be even more difficult to get people to listen with an open mind. Seems like there is great potential for harm to the entire movement to be honest.

[Roger the Horse]

And Rupert Murdoch