Growth/analysis of the GB & Ireland 911 Truth campaign

[Pikey]

As membership on here is fast approaching 1000 and it looks like Sept 2006 is going to be a record breaking month I thought that the creation of this thread would be constructive.

Based on my research, this website is the main portal for gauging the development of the 911 truth campaign in GB and Ireland and it provides valuable data to gauge the awakening of the 911 awareness in the public domain.

Of course if you have registered here does not mean that you support the global 911 Truth campaign, there are some registered members who support the official conspiracy theory of 911 and some who remain undecided. The website is also open to those who wish to view only and not register.

The establishment date of the website was 24th July 2005.

The following figures represent the monthly total of those registered on this website.

2005

Jul: 29

Aug : 44

Sept : 60

Oct : 33

Nov: 26

Dec: 20


2006

Jan: 30

Feb: 42

Mar: 64

Apr: 85

May: 99

Jun: 79

Jul: 95

Aug: 105

Sept (up to 908th member 13-9-06): 97

The number who have signed the petition on the front page, supporting the demand for a full professional INDEPENDENT inquiry is 697.

I will follow up with more analysis on this thread when I get time.

Wonder who our 911th member will be?

[Pikey]

911 TRUTH CAMPAIGN SUPPORTERS

TOP 20 BLOGGERS ON THIS WEBSITE @ 13-9-06 (number of blogs)

Please pm if any corrections required!

1. Andrew Johnson 948
2. Ian Neal 896
3. Pikey 598
4. Xmasdale 588
5. dh 582
6. Ally 522
7. Mark Gobell 463
8. Defector 460
9. Scar 456
10. Wokeman 421
11. Annie 414
12. Scubadiver 391
13. kbo 234 377
14. Blackcat 330
15. John White 320
16. Sinclair 311
17. Brian 300
18. Truth 290
19. Andy B 282
20. Jane 280

[Pikey]

TROLLS/SHILLS/CLOSED MINDS

TOP 20 BLOGGERS ON THIS WEBSITE @ 13-9-06 (number of blogs)

You will find many of them in Critics Corner

Please pm if any corrections required!

1. Johnny Pixels 382
2. Jay ref 339
3. Chipmunk Stew 264
4. State of Grace 145
5. ConspiracyTheory Skeptic 133
6. Rachel 99
7. Gravy 65
8. Bushwacker 53
9. Davey J 40
10. Jim B 32
11. A Sharp Major 16
12. Anti-this-website 5
13. Judge-mental 2
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[JimB]

I suggest you report all the names listed in the T/S/CM list to an admin asap, identifying whether you think they're a troll, shill or closed minded. The admins can then make the decision to ban names, relegate posters to the Critics' Corner or ignore your opinions.

Edit: No NPTers listed!?

Regards,
T/S/CM #10

[Pikey]

[scar]

[Pikey]

911 TRUTH CAMPAIGN SUPPORTERS

TOP 20 BLOGGERS ON THIS WEBSITE @ 13-9-06 (number of blogs)

Registration number in brackets

Please pm if any corrections required!

1. Andrew Johnson (3) 948
2. Ian Neal (10) 896
3. Pikey (9) 598
4. Xmasdale (4) 588
5. dh (113) 582
6. Ally (36) 522
7. Mark Gobell (681) 463
8. Defector (475) 460
9. Scar (280) 456
10. Wokeman (16) 421
11. Annie (278) 414
12. Scubadiver (423) 391
13. kbo 234 (202) 377
14. Blackcat (443) 330
15. John White (334) 320
16. Sinclair (42) 311
17. Brian (49) 300
18. Truth (290) 290
19. Andy B (424) 282
20. Jane (56) 280

[Pikey]

TROLLS/SHILLS/CLOSED MINDS

TOP 20 BLOGGERS ON THIS WEBSITE @ 13-9-06 (number of blogs)

You will find many of them in Critics Corner

Registration number in brackets

Please pm if any corrections required!

Thanx to Mike for assistance.

1. Johnny Pixels (671) 382
2. Jay ref (552) 339
3. Chipmunk Stew (656) 264
4. State of Grace (489) 145
5. ConspiracyTheory Skeptic (414) 133
6. Rachel (263) 99
7. Gravy (660) 65
8. Bushwacker (846) 53
9. Davey J (768) 40
10. Jim B (821) 32
11. Mark X (665) 21
12. A Sharp Major (267) 16
13. Arkan_Wolfshade (664) 16
14. Jon Ronson (651) 15
15. Anti-this-website (884) 5
16. Milesalpha (657) 4
17. Judge-mental (756) 2
18. JohnJeanlives (794) 1
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[ian neal]

[ian neal]

I would also comment that extra browny points will not awarded for those that post the most on this forum. Some of the most effective and active campaigners hardly post here.

[xmasdale]

Am I right in my impression that those inclined to advocate the official conspiracy theory register, blog like crazy for a short span of time until they discover their arguments are being defeated and then dissappear quite suddenly, only to be replaced with a new person who has a go in similar manner? Pikey's analysis should be able to reveal whether this impression of mine is correct.

Noel

[Pikey]

Ian Neal states:-

[waking life]

Check out the google trends for the Uk and Ireland.

http://google.com/trends

Try this search 9/11 conspiracy, loose change, flight 93, orwell

[Skeptic]

[Pikey]

Congratulations to Kathy Haq who is the 911th registered member on the forum. Total membership has jumped to 930 and is fast approaching another milestone, the four digit marker.

Monthly registration on the forum has already smashed the previous record breaking month of August 2006 (105) now at 120 and its only half way through the month!

The total of those who have signed the petition on the front page has leapt to 720!

To enable us to expand/grow the GB & Ireland 911 truth groups it would be helpful if people could put on their registration profile their residential location and if they are already with a truth group the group name/website so that it appears on the footer of their blogs.

[Jane]

Noel:

[Garcon Warrior]

I think it would be great if anyway possible that people who are registering with this site are someway able to tell how they found out about this site. I personally stumbled across this site like a few others I have read on here. But it would be great to get a gage of how many people are finding this website by the campaigning of the members on here of how well we're doing and what more needs to be done.

[coconut]

http://google.com/trends?q=9%2F11+conspiracy&ctab=1&geo=all&date=all

Ireland is first! w00t!

Although I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were looking for websites that claim to "debunk insane conspiracy theories" regarding 9/11. Here in Ireland most people are not wise to any dissent to the official conspiracy theory.

[Pikey]

Its 17-9-06 at 00-25 and there are 110 guests plus 19 reg member names.

Never seen that many on the website before. Any record?

TV must be nonsense again!

[Keith Mothersson]

Many thanks to Pikey for this interesting analysis. Clearly the chain reaction of people telling people and blogs and websites springing up and linking, etc is really getting into its stride. And thanks to the Internet we don't need central Committees to lay down the line to us, constructive nonviolence can come into its own, as creating societal space for the renewal/revitalisation/extension of democracy. (Very many thanks to Jim Robinson and the others who keep this great site going.)

In a way, though, the internet is the easy bit, so here are some thoughts which are intended as loving nitpicking (grooming) from someone who makes all the mistakes (or most of them) I mention and doubtless have a good deal of other blindspots too.

911 can be iconic and 'catalytic' for us now, but only if we build/grow wisely, setting new paradigns for organising in place (such as the no-endorsement policy Ian Neal came up with). IMO that will mean we also need to try to avoid star systems and trad left rallies where many participants, who also have fine things to share, e.g. about local best practice, difficulties encountered, etc never get to share beyond small workshops or even just one to one conversations round the edges.

Instead we need researchers and public orators to be held firmly 'on tap' and ourselves avoid the regressive temptation in unfamiliar gatherings and events to fall back on reliance on leaders. Scapegoating leaders, who have given a lot to this movement, won't be the answer, but we need ourselves to grow and help them to adapt to being on tap and not on top/too prominent/too outspoken.

Since it is the Social Form of the (traditional) Public Meeting which so much exacerbates unconscious Leader-follower problems (such as we have, and I don't want to over-emphasise these because there is a lot of goodwill and we are all consciously libertarian), we need ideally to take a decision to just stop organising the traditional rallies and conferences. I feel sure we would grow much faster if we could get used to running meetings with a lively dialectic between plenary and small group meetings, using initial keynote presentations of five minutes from three or four contributors to get us started, but then create contexts for genuine conversation to evolve in small groups which choose which themes/questions to report back on (and who of their number to report), and also using spokespeople meetings and 'fishbowls' etc, with plenty of time for announcements, self-organised/advertised ad hoc meetings, etc. (In a fishbowl there may be five cushions in the centre of the room and four people start a conversation, when a fifth comes up to join them the one who has spoken most or someone else drops back to allow others to come up.)

Locally especially we also need to incorporate food into our gatherings, which helps us to build community and friendship and less male-domination into our gatherings (e.g. if we are inviting the local Muslim community to a truth evening or planning one with them) . Around 1975 in Brom I can recall Friday evening meals in a church hall near the Peace Centre by the Bull Ring which were real centres of community, from which lots of friendships and projects spun off, and in which less verbally articulate/confident/academic folk often got to shine, including children and the socially excluded.

The focus of our movement has been very much on Information provision - which is fair enough up to a point but it can become addictive: the Sufi story of the guy who loses his beads down a dark alley comes to mind. He looks for them at the end of the alley, and when someone comes up to help and asks if he lost it near there, he says, 'No, but here there is light'. So the temptation to keep dotting the 'i's' and crossing the 't's', which I also share, is one we need to be aware of. What I am saying is that the Truth movement is winning on the information provision front up to a point but the Powers That Be could try to damage-limitation the situation, switch back to the Democrats, and hope we all forget to hold the corporate media to account for totalitarian black out of even open discussion for four/five years, ditto our need to ensure the Secret State (who were mostly internally aware at the top of what happened on 911), are also held to account, as David and Annie make clear we need to do.

And in the UK the danger is that we all settle on blaming the Americans for a nasty five year episode, and don't look at the Anglo- part of Anglo-American Imperialism, including British/City of London/Aristocratic/Freemasonic/etc influences, after all 'our own' financial and economic system is entirely parasitic on stuff coming in from the Global South, making weapons, phoney exports like insurance, and war to go fight the natives to sustain our unsustainable lifestyles.

So tackling the wider dimensions and the deeper horrors like torture of Muslims who are fingered by the CIA is something which requires us to go beyond the info-provision model by itself, to also reflect on and develop ways of responding to the fear in people which stops us from realising just how deeply we are in the *. Now this denial isn't just in 'them', so that we can quickly shift to a new way of doing politics in much more sensitive 'pastoral' ways, which help 'those people' to experience their fears together and realise they are normal, and it is healthy to feel fear and anger and etc, but we can work through these feelings together IF we create enough time and places for this to happen .....

What I am saying is that I believe that this denial is also deeply in us, in our movement, as a denial about the centrality of denial. If we had been handing out and mailing out fivers, then the knowledge of that would spread like wildfire and before the first three months of our campaign then every person in the UK would have learned about us! What do people want to hear about and what do people not want to hear about; and if the latter how can we respectfully realise this and speak to people where they are at, not 'hit them' with stuff they can't cope with?

So we need to do public stuff in existentially engaged ways which draw on healing and spirituality as much as 'politics' which too often is merely a self-indulgent lawsuit with how reality really is, i.e. blaming people for not taking our point, having contempt for those we call the 'sheeple'. The bars to growth are more contextual/psychological/cultural/spiritual than simply the media black out and the logistics of better messages and even new media to vehicle our message.

That said the spreading of dvds is a very important development, we should aim to have at least one dvd copier in every region (and a regional rota so the copying work doesn't all fall on a few like it has on Kenny and Steve to a considerable extent so far). One resaon why - it being part of 'ordinary people's existing cultural repertoire to tell each other about dvds and swaap them, so we don't mark ourselves out as odd politicos when we also do this, unlike issuing invites to public meetings or giving pamphlets. Local radio and internet can also be very important if we can create the right kind of non-content/information focussed meetings for community to be centred on. Tee-shirts, stickers, you name it!

Now that IF is in capital letters because the way our society has gone has been to decrease opportunities for community and real local empowerment; easier to stay home and watch telly or research the latest details about Flight 93.

The male domination of our movement is still quite marked. Hopefully that is mere numerical domination, but still we would be much stronger if we could develop new ways of meeting which were more women-friendly: and made links to the Diana constituency. In this context one other thing we all keep denying needs to be flagged up loud and clear at every opportunity IMO - and that is the gender politics of the FRATs (dominant fraternities) behind not just false flag terrorism but also the military, the banking system, the chopping down of the Amazon, etc, etc, etc. (See 'Fleshing Out Skull and Bones' ed Kris Milligan for some stuff on the Yale Brotherhood of Death, for example.)

We have put far more effort into communicating with StoptheWar type events than e.g. raising the issue of False witness at Interfaith events, helping them to break out of the Home office script (don't mention the war, pretend 911 happened the way it is supposed to have happened) which so alienates younger Muslims in particular. We need to prioritise outreach and involvement with local Muslim communities as well as we can - just popping into newsagents shops is the first step. Our latest conference had three Muslims at it, but no Muslim plenary input: our loss, and let that be the last time we make this mistake (and we all should have seen it coming as gthe draft programme was available beforehand).

MUSLIMS ARE THE MAIN VICTIMS OF THE OIL-FRATERNITY'S 911 BLOODLIBEL FRAMEUP (and of course the wars they 'legitimised' and now of the 7-7 and 21-7 follow ups , and now the terror scares). Muslims are much more aware that 911 is a lie than any other community in Britain and Ireland, so we should highlight the Islamaphobic, indeed Racist, aspect of 911 in everything we do, too often it is only implicit in out work, e.g. neither Ian Neal's otherwise fine gathering report on our first three years, or Andrew Johnson's otherwise fine leaflet mentioned Muslim involvement/the Blood-libel dimension.

That said we now have the text (Griffin's very, very fine book 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11') for us to try to ensure every Diocesan or Circuit newsletter carries a review. (If you haven't a clue who to approach, that is the blindspot/gap I'm talking about.) The students opposed the Vietnam war for many years without forcing withdrawal and it wasn't until the churches got involved (allied to the resistance of the Vietcong) that the US were forced to withdraw. The UK churches may seem unpromising ground but if we reach out honestly, with respect and proferring a copy of Griffin's book, then I do believe that the sleeping giant may yet awaken. At any rate the dangerous split in the Muslim community between elders/imams and alienated young (potentially vulnerable to extremist/MI5 manipulation) won't be healed unless the elder 'responsibles' feel that there will be allies among the Christians (and other religions) if they raise the taboo topic of 911.

Well I rambled on long enough - that's another thing, these late nights on the internet are another addiction I/we need to grow out of! - so let me begin to conclude with this: 9/11 is so central to what is wrong with our society that awakening to it puts us in a specially responsible position where we have the opportunity to seed lots of good community- and movement-building best practices around 911 truth. Its centrality also means that we have a special opportunity, need and responsibility to reach out to lots of different movements and not just rest content with perfecting existing messages and patterns of outreach.

In general we are doing pretty well, between us we have a lot of wisdom, experience and good will. We can certainly give ourselves one loud cheer, but we mustn't be complacent. It is hard and it takes time to effect deep personal and social change. Most of us still suffer from a lot of dysfunctonal habits to pension off and it will take effort and focus and honest undefensive discussion for us to bring into commission the new practices and patterns and alliances we need for this 911 movement to keep rolling as far and as deep and as fast as we all hope it will.

911 represents the politics of Planet Jonestown, and the question is whether we can stop this murderous hijack of our world by Oil Frat/Anglo-American Imperialism/ you name it, and its phoney 'war on Terror' which serves to distract fromthe challenge of creating just sustainable lifestyles. So 911 for us appears us our best chance to break Frat Power (Class Power/Global Caste/Institutional Sexism). We can do it but we, especially us blokes, need to end our denial about denial and 'offer up' our own hangups about recognising the emotional and spiritual aspects of personal and social change.

911 is a challenge for society to grow beyond comforting fairy tales (Daddy is in charge and will protect us from those other bad people). But first it is an existential challenge for each one of us. Let's help each other grow to meet this extraordinary breakthrough opportunity which is arising. Let's try not to quarrel too much with each other (we are doing pretty well so far).

There are no bad guys, just degrees-of-deluded folks with degrees-of-unskilful harm-causing habits, who aren't 'Them' but others of us, for which one of us hasn't been deluded and caused much harm in our and others' lives? We are all in the same *, so let us allow our feelings of compassion to arise without embarrasment.

Every leaflet a pure offering. Every outreach a tender sharing.

Thank you for reading this.

[Pikey]

I am absolutely delighted to highlight the record breaking growth of the 911 Truth campaign GB & Ireland in September 2006, it even looks like we are now going to break through the 4 digit milestone on registered members before we see October, even without considering the circa 20 shills/trolls/supporters of the official CT and those sick b******* who come here for the wrong reasons and put hard porn websites on their profile (eg member no. 979).

No doubt the campaigning at tomorrows STW event in Manchester will generate further support and growth. Just goes to show what stepping up a gear in the 911 truth campaigning can achieve!

Well done especially to all 911 activists and those spreading the 911 truth virus!

We are getting there a bit faster now and heading towards the exponential growth rate!

This fact should also hopefully encourage more 911 whistleblowers to raise their heads above the parapet!

[uselesseater]

Wow. The google trends function is amazing!

http://www.google.com/trends?q=9%2F11+conspiracy

Edinborough is top non US city for '9/11 conspiracy'.

Is there a truth group there?

[Pikey]

Registration on this website has now reached another milestone:- 1,000 registered members.

Congratulations to Blairsbestmate who is the 1,000th registered member!

The number who have signed the petition on the front home page stands at 769.

Uselesseater: we do not appear to have a 911 truth group operating in Edinburgh as is the case in Liverpool and Manchester and I cannot understand why not!

[Mark Gobell]

646 seats in the UK Parliament.

General Election due in 2009 ?

3'ish years to develop 1 candidate per constituency.

or 3 years blogging ?

3 years saving for a deposit

3 years to build a constituency of truth

What do we have to lose ?

[Mark Gobell]

This is achievable.

Every dissenter, when presented with the political futility says "but who do we vote for instead?"

9/11 Truth Candidate in every ward !

646 Candidates: thats all we need.

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

Success breeds success.

If just one Truth candidate stood at the next bye election, and everybody on this site who gives a damn took a week off work to campaign in that constituency we would have our first MP.

It's as simple as that.

Step 1. Do we have a candidate?

[iro]

playing politics is pointless. its a rigged game like getting into a blackjack table at a mafioso casino. your only gonna go out the door broken or crashing out the top floor window.

focus efforts elsewhere. the governmental system is responsible for perpetrating the 9/11 myth both here and elsewhere and it has to go 100% and be replaced with something entirely different - as for what that is i have no idea in practical terms.

by going of parliament you are giving your consent to the very system that enslaves you and wants to barcode your ass and feed you propaganda. The illusion that power in politics comes from the grass roots is a decoy, get into the political system and you will soon find that the major directives are imposed form above - end of story.

[THETRUTHWILLSETU3]

You have to start somewhere

If we had an MP - we would have a voice, even if it were only in that constituency.

It would also inspire others to stand for the Truth party

[andyb]

Also, if you get enough candidates you get a free party political broadcast!

[iro]

well if some of you wish to fantasize over this then thats great