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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Zionist control of Britain Reply with quote

Read the full article at: http://www.iamthewitness.com/ZionistControlOfBritain.html

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In 1994 Tony Blair was at a dinner party held by the second-in-command at the Israeli Embassy in London, Gideon Meir, who would go on to become the Information Chief of Israel's Foreign Ministry. Meir introduced Tony Blair to a Zionist businessman named Michael Levy. Levy agreed to use his influence to get Blair elected so long as Blair agreed never to to act in any way against Israeli interests, whilst he was leader of the party.

Blair agreed and as a result Levy became chief fundraiser for Blair, and co-incidentally of course just before the 1997 election in which Blair became Prime Minister, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. (which dominates the British Media) lavished support for Blair whilst attacking the Conservative Party on a daily basis. Thus Blair was elected in a landslide.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Catfish

If you search for zionism and my name on the forum you will see my views on zionism. Here you will see that I (and many others here) recognise the importance of zionism, its supporters and Israel in the whole PNAC/war of terror agenda as you clearly do. However like a cracked record I repeat the need to take great care in discussing this issue due to its sensitivities and its potential to turn people away from us or allow our critics to (IMO) unjustly portray 'us' as anti-semites/neo-nazi's, etc. The failure of some to properly distinquish between criticism of zionism and the Israeli state (wholly legitimate) and criticism of Jews and the jewish faith (which is 'racist').

In the opinion of many Daryl Bradford Smith is one of those who fail to distinguish between the 2 and is certainly a very controversial figure within 9/11 truth with a lot of 'baggage', so refer to his site with caution is my advice

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was some interesting debate on the "Today" Radio4 programme this morning about the rise of anti-semitism in the UK and abroad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/

The three hour programme is listed by topic and it is easy to listen again to the debate. 07:30 and 08:40 are the times.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in my opinion if you feel Daryl Bradford Smith does not distinguish between the two then you haven't read his site properly or listened to his audio files.

If exposing the zionist mafia controlling the world means being called an anti-semite by some ill-informed people along the way then so be it.

I would urge everyone to go to Daryl's site and make up their own minds, just click my signature. Also check out www.jewsagainstzionism.com

To expose zionism is not rascist.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackcat do you think the MPs responsible for the reports were members of these groups? The programme doesn't say.

Labour Friends of Israel

Conservative Friends of Israel

Radio 4 discussion part one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/ram/today3_anti_20060907 .ram

The second part is excellent with Professor Steven Rose, despite being given hardly any time, making some great points about the criminal actions of Israel and how any criticism of those actions comes with a charge of anti-semitism:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/ram/today5_antisem_20060 907.ram


Everyone's being pointed at George Bush but this guy can't even tie his own shoes.

Wolfovitz, Pearle, Murdoch, Rothschild, all these people have one thing in common and it's not that they're jewish, it's that they all support the (illegal, in my opinion) state of israel.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well in my opinion if you feel Daryl Bradford Smith does not distinguish between the two then you haven't read his site properly or listened to his audio files.

If exposing the zionist mafia controlling the world means being called an anti-semite by some ill-informed people along the way then so be it.

I would urge everyone to go to Daryl's site and make up their own minds, just click my signature. Also check out www.jewsagainstzionism.com

To expose zionism is not rascist.


I have 'read his site properly' and 'listened to his audio files' since he first formed the site and listened to a fair amount of it from concen subsequently, although not for a few months. His bile got him banned from the site after inspiring FBI and ADl involvement/lawsuits. Hes a very divisive lunatic. He mixes Jew and Zionist up ALL the time in his ranting evidence free shows whilst stating the difference on his site. In doing so discredits others who expose Zionism.
He accuses virtually the entire truth movement of being a part of the criminal network along with his sidekick Hufschmid (who is related to Murdoch). Many of his borgminded followers do the same. 'crypto-jew, zionist-denier' blablabla
Quite amusing Hufschmids related to a leading zionist when he has been so obsessed with exploring every member of the truth movements backgrounds. Quite telling.

How many times does Hufschmid expose zionists in his book? hmmmm...

Of course the ADL will label anyone exposing zionism as anti-semitic, thats obvious, that isnt the point.

Where did someone here say exposing zionism is racist?
Zionism is racist.

I would advise everyone goto Daryls site and read his attacks on nearly everyone with no proof. Thats one way to get listeners but its very see-through. If one wanted to explore this side on the radio i would say the RBN network would be a better way to go. Unless you like drama, venom and evidence-free conjecture in which case d-bs is your man.

I remember the article posted here from months ago, Is there actual proof provided there of this 'dinner party', i dont remember finding any which is typical of the guy.
Im not doubting the zionist hand in control but i call into question D-BS and his research. Its nearly all opinion pieces.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you've been following things as closely as you could have. CC never have given a decent reason for banning DBS audio from their site, they started out by saying that it was copyrighted which was complete rubbish as anyone can verify. Recently slanderers on CC have even been saying that Daryl is a paedophile.

As for Hufschmid, it's been doing the rounds that he is related to Rupert Murdoch. Oh yes, Eric's half-sister, who he hasn't seen since he was six, is married to one of Rupert's sons. Quick lock him up.

It's time we stopped listening to folk saying oooh the illuminati, oooh it's germanic satanists, oooh the new world order and the bilderburgs. Whatever....

They are hiding in plain sight, Murdoch, our ADL controlled politicians, Rothschild, Hapsbergs, the Lazard Brothers, Goldmann and Sachs, and the Rockefellers. There's not a lot of them and they have names and faces. Real people.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think you've been following things as closely as you could have. CC never have given a decent reason for banning DBS audio from their site, they started out by saying that it was copyrighted which was complete rubbish as anyone can verify. Recently slanderers on CC have even been saying that Daryl is a paedophile.

As for Hufschmid, it's been doing the rounds that he is related to Rupert Murdoch. Oh yes, Eric's half-sister, who he hasn't seen since he was six, is married to one of Rupert's sons. Quick lock him up.

It's time we stopped listening to folk saying oooh the illuminati, oooh it's germanic satanists, oooh the new world order and the bilderburgs. Whatever....

They are hiding in plain sight, Murdoch, our ADL controlled politicians, Rothschild, Hapsbergs, the Lazard Brothers, Goldmann and Sachs, and the Rockefellers. There's not a lot of them and they have names and faces. Real people.


I dont think YOU have been following the issue as closely as you think you have.
They did not say it was for copyright reasons as you would know if you had been there at the time and not heard it from dbs.
Their copyright/banned section listed him as did other sections as they wanted to stop all uploads to the site from him. They listed the letters they had with threats of legal action to back up their decision. DBS and his minions caused hell on concen for months, turned it into a boiler room.
That night dbs made a radio show saying concen were part of the criminal network etc and had lied and said it was for copyright reasons. He ranted on and on about how they were controlled from his own warped opinion with no proof once again. That was allowed on concen for comedy value.
I was there when it all happened. Were you? Or did you get it all from d-bs?
If concen are such zionist-deniers why do they allow all content from others who speak of it - piper, bollyn, spaceman etc etc etc.
Im glad they got rid of dbs and the patronising borgminds who follow him.

I know hufschmid is related to murdoch in the way you mention. Check out the Piper shows recently if you want a run down on it. He admitted it himself a long time ago anyway...
Hufschmid is a proper threat to this movement. I cannot bear that whiny divisive twat. He has an agenda and so does dbs, either that or dbs has been led down the ferrethole..

I shall leave this now. Theres enough division kicking around here atm and ive argued with dbs-ers before. I know where it leads.
Funny thing is we probably agree on the zionist issue. So its all pointless.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To expose zionism is not rascist.


Agreed 110%

Indeed failure to denounce zionism is akin racism, in the same way as those that failed to denounce apartheid South Africa were 'racist' in their denial of what was staring them in the face.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree as well.

I just have a major issue with dbs and huf.
I feel their approach is dangerous and divisive.
I always feel the need to mention it when i see them mentioned.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everyone's being pointed at George Bush but this guy can't even tie his own shoes.

Wolfovitz, Pearle, Murdoch, Rothschild, all these people have one thing in common and it's not that they're jewish, it's that they all support the (illegal, in my opinion) state of israel.


http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1047.shtml

Don't forget this man!!!!!!!! This crime is so overlooked within the 9/11 truth movement it is staggering. It is THE reason the Pentagon was hit.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely Blackcat. I missed this when you posted it but the connection is there to be made.
Daryl Bradford Smith makes some very good points here.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Zionism etc Reply with quote

Oh Dear!

This is a "carry on" isn't it? I wouldn't think any of the people discussing this here could seriously be described as "racists" but there are things I have kept coming across which can't just be glossed over and ignored...

I have noticed however, as scar says in regard to someone or other, there are some people (Peter Meyer was someone I came across) who appear at first quite ok, sane and rational and certainly not "racist" about the whole thing - but then as you read them more closely, they can get very nasty, as I realised later re Peter Meyer whom I received email postings from - at least one of which I posted on the board without fully reading (not a good idea!) only to feel horrified when I did read it properly!


I can only think that all this is some kind of "test" for us to go through - after all, to the average bod I speak to the term "Muslim" increasily denotes "Terrorist" because:

a) they don't know any Muslims really (not really know any although they might pretend they do);

b)they are easily "taken in" by the Media (whether under "Zionist Control" or not!) and take everything they are told as Gospel without question...

Thus they live in a "false reality"

We intelligent, Enlightened souls on this discussion group (!) are clearly on "a higher plane" and can see through all the lies to truth, love and unity ...

May I just suggest a slight possibility here?! (I've been wondering this for a while really!) -

Is it just remotely possible that we in this movement have not yet reached the pinacle of Truth, seeing through all lies, deceptions, and as I would put it "Maya" (the Play in which we are currently stuck in!) -

Maybe it is possible to see "beyond" the next layer yet again which some of us are no more able to do right now then people in my office at work were I to go in and tell them tomorrow exactly what my "9/11 Hobby" (as they call it!) entails!


"But it was Muslim Terrorists who knocked down the Twin Towers and that's a totally indisputable fact" I think they would say - or words to this effect...

We must be careful before we are too certain of our own "indisputable "FACTS" - for example, the more I search for "Jews Against Zionism" the more and more of them I find!!

Hope someone "gets" what I am trying to say here!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Zionist control of Britain Reply with quote

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Levy agreed to use his influence to get Blair elected so long as Blair agreed never to to act in any way against Israeli interests, whilst he was leader of the party.

Blair made a lot of promises and undertakings to become leader of the Labour Party and to win the election. Could they be relied on by those they were given to? Let's ask Gordon Brown!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everyone's being pointed at George Bush but this guy can't even tie his own shoes.

Wolfovitz, Pearle, Murdoch, Rothschild, all these people have one thing in common and it's not that they're jewish, it's that they all support the (illegal, in my opinion) state of israel.


http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1047.shtml

Don't forget this man!!!!!!!! This crime is so overlooked within the 9/11 truth movement it is staggering. It is THE reason the Pentagon was hit.


Spot on Blackcat. That is why the link between 9/11 and zionism cannot be denied and why it demands greater understanding of zionism and its history, its key supporters and its inherent 'racism'. But we also need to be accutely aware especially with regard to the impression we give to new visitors to this site that we discuss this sensitively and based on good research and explanation of the evidence. And at all times we make clear distinction between the 'war criminal' elite that run and shape the Isreali state and the people that back this illegal state and the wider Isreali citizenry and Jewish people in general. This is an important distinction that I know most if not all of us understand.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Zionist control of Britain Reply with quote

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Levy agreed to use his influence to get Blair elected so long as Blair agreed never to to act in any way against Israeli interests, whilst he was leader of the party.

Blair made a lot of promises and undertakings to become leader of the Labour Party and to win the election. Could they be relied on by those they were given to? Let's ask Gordon Brown!


I'd just like to clarify I didn't write that. It was a quote from an article which is linked to at the top of this thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Zionism etc Reply with quote

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b)they are easily "taken in" by the Media (whether under "Zionist Control" or not!) and take everything they are told as Gospel without question...

Thus they live in a "false reality"

We intelligent, Enlightened souls on this discussion group (!) are clearly on "a higher plane" and can see through all the lies to truth, love and unity ...

May I just suggest a slight possibility here?! (I've been wondering this for a while really!) -

Is it just remotely possible that we in this movement have not yet reached the pinacle of Truth, seeing through all lies, deceptions, and as I would put it "Maya" (the Play in which we are currently stuck in!) -


Of course we haven't reached the pinnacle of truth and of course some are nearer to the truth than others, but God(ess) forbid that we should presume to judge where others are on that journey nor that we should think ourselves more advanced than others. "Judge not that ye be not judged," Jesus is alleged to have said. (Matt7, v1) Though I have no direct evidence that he actually said it, it sounds like wise advice to me. (It seems to encapsulate the law of karma).

I reached a stage when I began to see this world as illusion/maya, but I try not to forget that that that perception can fade and that I am capable at any moment of reverting to the perception that we are all seperate from each other and that what happens to others is of no concern to me.

Then there is Shakespeare's "All the world 's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts" - (As You like it, Act II, Scene VII). More wise words; he too seems to have realised the illusory nature of this world.

Jane wrote:

Maybe it is possible to see "beyond" the next layer yet again which some of us are no more able to do right now then people in my office at work were I to go in and tell them tomorrow exactly what my "9/11 Hobby" (as they call it!) entails!


I suspect you've written some of this with you're tongue a little way into your cheek, Jane, but I would not suggest that we try to make this movement go beyond a concern for the truth about 9/11. That way we will only create divisions and lose people. While we remain focused on our objective of making known that we have been lied to, we can remain united.

But many of us will go beyond the truth of 9/11 and may meet each other again there, but we shouldn't expect to bring everyone else along with us. We are only the founding core of a future enlarged movement and many newcomers will not be interested in the kind of more esoteric stuff you are introducing here, Jane.

As an ideal I would like to see us embodying these words of yet another wise teacher, the 17th century Quaker writer Isaac Penington:

"Our life is love, and peace, and tenderness; and bearing one with another, and forgiving one another, and not laying accusations one against another; but praying one for another, and helping one another up with a tender hand. "

But that won't suit everyone in our movement, will it? We need to be a "broad church" which embraces everyone who doubts the official conspiracy theory of 9/11.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that was great about this weekend was meeting up with people I've got know on line. It was good to have a chat with Catfish and makes me recognise the value of just meeting up informally such as at Conway Hall and the gathering and not just rely on the internet. Its then that you get a feel for where someone's coming from.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it was great to meet everyone. Putting faces to names is reassuring if sometimes a little surprising (who would've thought Ian Crane was from the same genus as Bill Bailey?)

I hope everyone that met me can back me up when I say, I am not a nazi!
I think I share the same concerns as Daryl Bradford Smith, in that if you look at the evidence you can see that it is zionists who're responsible for 9/11 and while we sit and wait for the "public inquiry" these same criminals are responsible for the deaths of British, Americans, Iraqis, Afghanis, Palestinians, Lebanese and Israelis right NOW.

Steven Jones recently went on public radio in the USA and when asked who he thought was responsible he said, Perle, Wolfowitz and the international bankers, this is the next person to call in: right click and save target as

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope everyone that met me can back me up when I say, I am not a nazi!


I can certainly back you up there.
I dont think bearded hippies fit the MO of nazis. Laughing
Was good to meet ya fella and lostpomme and many many others.

catfish wrote:
I think I share the same concerns as Daryl Bradford Smith, in that if you look at the evidence you can see that it is zionists who're responsible for 9/11 and while we sit and wait for the "public inquiry" these same criminals are responsible for the deaths of British, Americans, Iraqis, Afghanis, Palestinians, Lebanese and Israelis right NOW.

Steven Jones recently went on public radio in the USA and when asked who he thought was responsible he said, Perle, Wolfowitz and the international bankers, this is the next person to call in: right click and save target as


Zionists is surely one label to describe a lot of the main players behind the planning of it.
Globalist is another. Not all neocons are zionists are they.
They are all globalists though.
Is this comment above why he was suspended i wonder?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope everyone that met me can back me up when I say, I am not a nazi!


Yes and long as you will back me up that I'm not quite as pompous as I sound reading my own words sometimes

scar wrote:
Zionists is surely one label to describe a lot of the main players behind the planning of it.
Globalist is another.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian I don't think you're pompous at all, and after meeting you I'm reassured that this forum is a place for respectable folk to talk sensibly Very Happy

Also, I think seeing as this is a forum investigating the truth of the events on 9/11 we can't ignore the facts of that day when exposing the criminals, namely, the landlord of buildings, Larry Silverstein, is a zionist, he had a lot to gain and he gained it all, also the huge mossad spy ring discovered around new york that day, the media who did, and are still covering up for the criminals, is owned by zionists like Rupert Murdoch.

And if by zionist I mean anyone who has an interest in the formation and continuance of the state of israel I can also include Lord Rothchild who has a lot of money put therein and friends thereout.

Maybe I'm putting my head on the block, but if I'm wrong they can sue me!

This is one of the first articles I read when I learned the truth about 9/11 by watching 9/11 Eyewitness in February of this year. I found this fascinating but I had so much to take in I hardly gave it a second thought there's so much stuff on the internet, as you know. But this makes a lot of loose ends to tidy up. I hope those who have read it will read it again and the others to see something they may have missed. It really is Stranger Than Fiction

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane approaching Catfish and (Ian Neal) at The Mass on Sunday afternoon..

"Hello Catfish" and turning to second person "What's your name?"

"Ian Neal"

(I'd attach a blushing "smilie" here, if I knew how to!!!)

You looked a bit different from last year! Keith remarked upon this and said it was the sheer euphoria of the situation which is giving you a real glow of happiness! Long may it continue!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Bologna Reply with quote

This may be of relevence with something I`m researching.


Has anyone seen this..

It`s about Sephardic Jews in Britain etc....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5338942.stm

I have been looking at some of the aspects within this (not the family side, regions etc..)

I`m trying to write it in an intelligable way ( may take some time ).

The article actually helped ME join some dots.

Thanks to the BBC ( never knew I could say that ).

In short it has helped in some research I`m doing about money matters in America etc., and 911.

Just a question but has anyone else looked into Bologna?

I know this sounds a bit cryptic but If someone else is looking on this level
I would like to see how right I am ( or wrong).

Will try to give a full account as soon as I can.


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