Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 632 Location: London UK
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject:
Nice one sinclair, I was just going to post it up. I'll add the text instead:
Quote:
On the 7th of July 2005 London was hit by a series of explosions. You probably think you know what happened that day. But you don’t.
The police have, from the onset of their investigation, chosen to withold from the public almost every bit of evidence they claim to have and have provably lied about several aspects of the London Bombings.
The mainstream news has wilfully spread false, unsubstantiated and unverifiable information, while choosing to completely ignore the numerous inconsistencies and discrepancies in the official story.
The government has finally, after a year, presented us with their official ‘narrative’ concerning the event. Within hours it was shown to contain numerous errors, a fact since admitted by the Home Secretary John Reid. They have continuously rejected calls for a full, independent public inquiry. Tony Blair himself described such an inquiry as a ‘ludicrous diversion’. What don’t they want us to find out? Contact ludicrousdiversion@hotmail.com
_________________ 'The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought'. JFK
interesting. It rely defies logic doesn't it.... surely we as the public have so much power, but we are being blocked at every step. Acts passed with only MP's knowing about them... and not knowing the reasons why they are passed in the first place. The country is spiralling out of OUR control! _________________
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 2017 Location: Croydon, Surrey
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject:
We should lobby our MP's NOW re the Inquiries Act 2005.
As the film-maker says, this Act GUARANTEES that any future Inquiry will be nothing more than a charade.
We probably need to think again about focussing on what will be most effective for us.......achieving a Public Inquiry could quite possibly actually set back our movement and destroy what hope now exists....Quite clearly an Inquiry will only be effective AFTER we have effectively won the argument.
It is certainly worth writing to your MPs about this. The J7 campaign wrote an open letter to all groups we knew of who are campaigning for a public inquiry to ask them to consider the IA2005. We believe that this legislation is not acceptable, especially in the light of Tony Blair's pledge to give the public an exact account of what happened, how and why.
This brilliantly insightful documentary ends with the very uncomfortable truth, that trying to campaign for an investigation really is a waste of time and energy.
interesting. It rely defies logic doesn't it.... surely we as the public have so much power, but we are being blocked at every step. Acts passed with only MP's knowing about them... and not knowing the reasons why they are passed in the first place. The country is spiralling out of OUR control!
This isn't about just this country but the world. It isn't about 7/7 or 9/11 but understanding the true nature of the 'war on terror' and the need for people to take control
Yes, we are being blocked at every step but we are increasingly breaking through and the cracks get ever wider and start joining up.
This world appears to be spiralling towards chaos and fascism: towards a new world order of their creation. It appears that the PTB grow ever stronger while our control over them is eroded away.
But this is an illusion. Their power assumes our ignorance, compliance and apathy. Momentum and truth is on our side and the PTWSBNM (the Powers that Will Soon Be No More) know it.
This world appears to be spiralling towards chaos and fascism: towards a new world order of their creation. It appears that the PTB grow ever stronger while our control over them is eroded away.
But this is an illusion. Their power assumes our ignorance, compliance and apathy. Momentum and truth is on our side and the PTWSBNM (the Powers that Will Soon Be No More) know it.
The question is how are we going to go about it effectively?
didn´t know video embedding was available on this site.
excellent video, are you going to seed the iso when the DVD is finished? _________________ "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind..." Bod Marley
I'm not completely convinced by this film - the central message seems to be more about dark forces taking away our freedoms than about furthering the phony 'war on terror'. Hmmm.
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:15 am Post subject: 7/7/05
Initial viewing of this video appears to be 40% 7/7 and 60% other stuff. Not too impressed by the arguements unlike 9/11. Dont like to see 7/7 being mixed up with 9/11. Perhaps it needs its own website rather than attaching itself to 911 and muddying the waters (even if it is indeed a cover up)
Not sure if there are any prominent names who are supporting 7/7 public enquiry or who believe we were not told the truth about it. Will wait and see what comes up.
More interested at the moment about USA invading Iran possibly around January 2007
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: Re: 7/7/05
fish5133 wrote:
More interested at the moment about USA invading Iran possibly around January 2007
Quite, after stealing the mid-term elections via electronic voting and then claiming the result to be an endorsement of US foreign policy in the Middle East. Hasn't there already been a warning in the US 'press' about the inaccuracy of exit polls? Funny, that.
Re 7/7: I'm convinced it was an inside job, having read reams and reams on the subject. Just because A Ludicrous Diversion has its flaws doesn't mean 7/7 really was carried out by 4 crazed Muslims. Study the evidence yourself at www.julyseventh.co.uk, and give it time - there's a lot to get through.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:13 am Post subject:
kbo234 wrote:
We should lobby our MP's NOW re the Inquiries Act 2005.
As the film-maker says, this Act GUARANTEES that any future Inquiry will be nothing more than a charade.
We probably need to think again about focussing on what will be most effective for us.......achieving a Public Inquiry could quite possibly actually set back our movement and destroy what hope now exists....Quite clearly an Inquiry will only be effective AFTER we have effectively won the argument.
That's why I think David Ray Griffin's proposal of an independent European inquiry into 9/11 is such a good one. We've had enough of UK and US bogus inquiries run by government stooges.
We should lobby our MP's NOW re the Inquiries Act 2005.
As the film-maker says, this Act GUARANTEES that any future Inquiry will be nothing more than a charade.
We probably need to think again about focussing on what will be most effective for us.......achieving a Public Inquiry could quite possibly actually set back our movement and destroy what hope now exists....Quite clearly an Inquiry will only be effective AFTER we have effectively won the argument.
That's why I think David Ray Griffin's proposal of an independent European inquiry into 9/11 is such a good one. We've had enough of UK and US bogus inquiries run by government stooges.
My take on this is that any 'official' inquiry whether it is a public inquiry in this country or a congressional inquiry in the US or criminal inquiry/trial will be a whitewash or charade unless such an inquiry takes place in a political landscape that is transformed by popular demands for the truth
Indeed I can't imagine the authorities agreeing to any new inquiry either in this country or the US without massive public support for 9/11 truth probably accompanied by large demonstrations and civil disobedience to force the government and media's hands. In deed such public demonstrations would in all likelihood sweep the criminal junta from power and into a prison cell before any new public investigation could take place
The only purpose I can see for a citizen's inquiry, is that it is another vehicle for raising public awareness of the evidence and building support for the type of transformation I describe. It will carry no legal weight and will not be able to demand that testimony is given under oath or evidence is released, so its effectiveness will always be limited.
That said such citizen's inquiries can be effective as a campaigning tool in raising public awareness and support. Before we put loads of effort in however, we need to weigh this against other strategies to achieve the same end.
Very interesting video. I disagree with those that claim 7/7 is separate from 9/11, as well as Madrid. The major players in the Bush "Coalition" were USA, UK, and Spain. There is a lot of evidence to suggest all three "terrorist" attacks were of the False-Flag variety.
The most compelling matter for me is that with all the Surveillance cameras in the world, the only ones that fail, fail at the Pentagon 9/11, London Underground at key stations and times on 7/7, and at the Stockwell Tube station as de Menezes, the Brazilian electrician was shot.
"Police, Camera, Action!" when they watch us, but, "Police Action! - No camera!" when it suits them. _________________ Child of Earth, long hast thou dwelt in darkness.
Quit the Night, and seek the day!
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: Ludicrous Diversions: much better than 'Mind The Gap'
As someone who contributed to the Mind The Gap script I have to declare an interest here. But that said I much much prefer this to our film. It's much more professionally made and goes much further into some important fine detail which we either missed or skooted over. It also deals witht he important enquiries issue. The film may even have been a result of the frustration at having seen the inadequacies in our film.
The only thing 'Ludicrous Diversions' doesn't have much of is passion. Dave Shayler has a great manner in the Mind The Gap film and oodles of credibility as someone who spent many years doing this work for a living in 'the service'.
Personally I'd like to see a proper examination of the Kingstar Van which was at the scene of the bus bomb and the dreadful photoshopped image of the 4 bomber suspects at Luton on 7/7 included in these doccos.
I have come to the conclusion that we need to instigate some kind of well diciplined online enquiry into the London Bombs because if that enquiry doesn't happen MI5 are going to let us down again and more innocent people will be killed.
Anyway a big virtual slap on the back for whoever made the film - you know who you are. But what is the point in being anonymous? I really can't understand that at all, since the forces of darkness almost certainly know who you are - why not us, the good guys? One possible explanation is that these are professional people who stand to lose their jobs were their Illuminati bosses to find out what they have been doing???
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 1850 Location: Currently Andover
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:36 am Post subject:
suspecta wrote:
I'm not completely convinced by this film - the central message seems to be more about dark forces taking away our freedoms than about furthering the phony 'war on terror'. Hmmm.
Suspecta
I would say the two films complement each other quite well.
Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 632 Location: London UK
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: Interview with Ludicrous Diversion team
The July 7th Truth Campaign has an exclusive interview with the makers of Ludicrous Diversion.
Read it here :
Ludicrous Diversion Interview _________________ 'The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought'. JFK
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