ALRKEE is this the association with the London Bombings?

[13thHouR]

I was surprised to see this was not listed here.


The sequence of bombings, occurred between these locations in this order.
Before the UK Government stepped in with its disinformation.

Aldgate East
Liverpool Street
Russell Square
Kings Cross
Edgware Road
Euston Road


Take the first letters of the Locations and you end up with ALRKEE.

A simple search on the net turns this up: http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/declassdocs/dia/19950901/950901_23402607_9 1.html

Had to use full URL that site prevents bbcode links.

It relates to ALRKEE GATE //GEOCOORD:2906N/04642E// and the use of chemical weapons in Iraq. On and around the Gulf War.

WMD's that where sold to Iraq by the UK.


I will point out that I am sceptical about this.

What are the odds that the only real document that appears on open search engines is that of ALRKEE GATE. A classified document concerning the use of WMD's in Iraq in the early 1990's?

This is just to convenient for my liking. I remain very skeptical about this, even with it being myself that first spotted this key link.


I originally posted this on one of my sites which is here: http://www.n-gage-help.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=48 41&highlight=iraq

Notice the time and date of the post? Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:04 pm, this was before Tony had did his bit of disinformation spreading. Other than links back to my original discovery made on a few sites, I wonder why nobody has discussed this very interesting coincidence.

[13thHouR]

Some More info I posted at the time. On one of my forums:


Entropic expansion (Tetramine copper perchlorate) or TACP is a Entropic expansion explosive. Highly unstable in quantities over 1 Kilo hence why it is only ever used in a small amount as a percussive trigger for more stable explosives. Despite what the UK press reported the so called shoe bomber only used TACP in this manner (As a percussive trigger). It nigh on impossible to transport 5Kg+ quantities without blowing yourself sky high. As its own physical weight per volume would detonate it.

A few interesting (Non anti terrorism law facts).

1. Entropic expansion is a cold explosion (much like an air bag in a car).
2. It does not produce an optical flash.
3. You cannot be burned by an entropic expansion.

(if looking that up on google in the UK you may have to goto cache pages as most sites with that information have been censored/blocked.



How was this woman burned?

Do you think the Government has some explanations to make?



This part is censored from British news.

Our members state side will be aware of the alleged Mi6 status of this guy.



Haroon Aswat, the so called mastermind of the London bombings with the alleged Radical cleric Abu Hamza al Masri in a London cab on Jan. 20, 1999. (btw no offence is ment to our muslim readers, this information. In fact it points the finger back at the UK Security forces)

Haroon Aswat has been alleged by the FBI and CIA as being an Mi6 agent. They go on to as far as declaring on CNN in the USA that when he was arrested in other countrie Mi6 insisted that he be released before the American special forces could question him.

Click Here to goto the one CNN article I am allowed to link. Well atleast I thinks its legal to link it in the UK. hmm I wonder?

Is it just me or does this whole thing stink?

There is considerably more info but UK law prevents anybody publishing it here.

I wonder why a reporter (a witness at edgeware road on 7/7) from certain national newspaper described bombs under trains?

This was confirmed by the French anti terrorist specialist looking at the forensic evidence.

Yet within 24hours the UK Government said it was TACP carried onto the trains?

Nobody to date has ever released any forensic evidence or even a simple specialist report to back the UK Governments U-Turn on this. The French Specialist however carried out a full forensic examination and correctly declared weapons grade explosive.

Why do I agree with the French Anti Terrorist specialist?

a. Victims Burns.
b. Victims seen a Flash of light from the explosions.
c. Witnesses seen the floor of trains explode upwards.
d. Witnesses did not see anybody with rucksacks in the vicinity of the explosions on the trains. (anyway this would have blown out and downwards, not "the floor came flying up"!)

refer back to entropic expansion for issue a, & b,

Could a & b occur with the alleged TACP?

Well quite simply .......... NO!

[13thHouR]

For those who think I do not know anything about Terrorism or being on the receiving end of an attack.

Have a read of this article..

http://www.r-force.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=108&mode =thread&order=1&thold=0

On Halloween Night 2002, Tullyalley, The Waterside, Londonderry,Northern Ireland, I Learned first hand what it is like to be set up for assassination by the British Government.

When they used Paramilitaries to try and kill me.

[Ally]

^Good stuff^.



7 explosions on 7/7 ?




Link


The Pigs were very explicit about the timings of the bombs too on 7/7 not being simulatenous.


Link

[13thHouR]

The 7 explosions could be explained away by the the location reports. As in Moorgate instead of 100 yards outside Liverpool Street station and so on.

However the precise timings the officer in question actually corrects one of these common errors or the reports after he makes that mistake and those timings stood until after the French Specialists preliminary report went public.

Then the dramatic U-Turn (without explanation) was made. Why where no reporters at the time allowed to have articles aired in which they questioned what evidence was there to support the use of TACP? or that of the timings presented without evidence from the Government?

[Ally]

[13thHouR]

Yep I know what you mean, but you have to be careful when dealing with thing like this not to get caught up in the media's struggle for reporting it first.

Mistakes are made, but they are usually explained. Although it does add fuel to the fire when there is no explanation.

777 does have very strong symbolic meanings in many cultures, but patterns can be found everywhere in an incident like this. As essentially life is a fractal when presented mathematical terms.

Was there 7 bombings?

Well we have to go with the facts that we have to work with, be it Government or agency controlled. The facts we have available says there was not 7 bombings.

It does not mean you are wrong, it just means at the moment the level of probability point to a simple error in reporting the multiple sources in the first few hours.

The same could be said about the timing of the bombings, however it was the Police who released the details. This did not get changed until after preliminary reports where made which pointed to a very embarrassing situation for the British Government.


Given that this U-Turn seems to point to more politically motivated issues and also contradicts the visual forensic evidence that is publicly available.

This throws up serious questions.


Their is very little mention of what Mi6 did with some victims and witnesses. On numerous occasions they physically stepped between reporters and victims/witnesses.

This was not protecting the people from the press, as these people had actually approached the press themselves.

This may have gone unnoticed by anybody but the witnesses, if it was not for the fact that SKY News was broadcasting an on the scene live interview at the time. When Mi6 literally dragged these people away from the camera.

Is this the normal way to treat people who have just survived being a victim of an alleged terrorist bombing?

It looked like scene from cold war Russia.

Or was it in fact the descriptions these people where giving of the incident did not match the later Government reports.

[Ally]

[13thHouR]

I was following several raw satellite news feeds on the day which gave more detailed coverage. A hell of lot was not put out on general broadcast.

However the feed in question was broadcasted live on Sky NEWS.

It was pretty embarrassing for the reporter as Mi6 got a police officer to step in front of the reporter, He made couple of comments and literally shut them down mid interview.

I just assumed you guys had known about this, since it was a national news network.


I will have to hunt through my PVR drives, as I may still have this somewhere.

If not I am sure somebody out there has a recording of this. It broadcasted late morning 7/7/05 on SKY News.


Update: no luck so far but I will keep searching my PVR drives. I beginning to think I may be quicker to search the net for this footage, but I will persevere to see if I still have it locally.

I am hoping its not on the drive that died, although I did manage to recover most of that drives contents. So if it was on that drive I should be able to tell by if it was the small part I lost by looking at the other footage time frame, I don't think it was that drive though.


Sods law really the one thing that I considered to be low priority and did not catalogue is the very item I get questioned about.

As I said that information was broadcasted to so many people that I did not consider it high priority in the evidence stakes other than a passing comment about the heavy handedness and how it would look to the public.

[Bushwacker]

So in a couple of posts the story has changed from MI6 literally dragging people away from the camera, to MI6 getting a police officer to step in front of the reporter? And you identified MI6 operatives because they were wearing uniforms with MI6 stencilled on the back, did you?

It couldn't just be that a police officer asked an intrusive reporter to step back, could it?

[13thHouR]

As part of Cobra guidelines a number of Mi6 officers are kitted out in Visible Urban Combat kit with baseball style caps.

It was a Mi6 officer that visibly dragged the witness off whilst the Police officer restraned the camera man and reporter.

As i stated the witness had approached the press not visa versa. If it had been visa versa then obviously the interpretation would be somewhat different and it would be pointless posting that information. Would it not?


Supplying more information of the sequence of events when questioned is not change in position. Its called being 'more specific' when more detailed information is required

I notice you do not question any of the other more serious issues?

It not like this practice is not common in the UK. Just ask the hippies, Coalminers, or any witness of major incident. Its just rarely caught on camera

They even arrest (on camera) and hold a Labour Politician under the prevention of Terrorism act for speaking out about the Governments foreign policies at a Labour Party Conference. So as I said this is not an isolated incident.

[wepmob2000]

ALRKEE is an interesting theory, but what if you put the names in alphabetical order? Maybe we could have an anagram competition. I'll plump for ALE REK, which is me on a Friday night

[Bushwacker]

[13thHouR]

[13thHouR]

LLOL: you guys take yourselves too seriously,

[Stefan]

I took the first four opening letters of the posts in this thread and realised it spelt out ISFG.

Is it a coincidence that this is the international society for forensic genetic's homepage?

I think not.

It seems clear to me that some of the posters have infiltrated the movement to gain DNA samples of key members to plant at future false flag terror ops.






Sorry to be facetious, couln't help it

[13thHouR]

btw just reminder, unlike most people here I know first hand what it is like to be targeted by British Security Forces.

My comments don't come from paranoia or the need for self created grandeur. They extend from having to have this knowledge to survive.

This does not make the information I post any more valid, but it does mean that this area of study is my day to day life, I have the experience of how specific organisations work. Which does give me an insight into some situations.

[13thHouR]

[Bushwacker]

[Ally]

[13thHouR]

OMG!!! you really have bought into the whole disinformation scene, I thought you knew about this by your previous repsonses, that what I get for over estimating other knowledge about this.

If you want to walk around with blinkers on that is your choice, I am not going to be the person to blow the lid off our interpretation of how things occur. Or what organisations call themselves.

I leave that up to the conspiracy theorists out there to twist and turn things. As they so often do.

Paranoid Now that is so funny, most of this site is actual paranoid ramblings. With few facts thrown in occasionally to try and add some credibility. To be paranoid it does in sense require you to give a dam about what these people do.

Most of the time I let which ever spooks, securicrats or what ever get on with what they do. Its only when they cross the line an involve innocent people in their games that I speak out.


I post facts, not conjecture. If I do post other content . When it is a coincidence or conjecture I say so.


To reiterate yet again on the points of factual information that you keep avoiding concerning TACP.

1. It cannot burn you
2. There is no visible optical flash
3. It is too unstable to carry around in amounts over 1Kg
4. It is only ever used as a detonator (in very small amounts).
5. The Government released information that this was the explosive used by the shoe bomber, when in fact it was only the detonator.

That is the real issue here.

As to if Security forces got heavy handed with victims/witness is such a minor thing that I barely even mentioned it in the earlier posts.

However if you really want to waste your time on this inconsequential issue.

I suggest you study who carries out information finding in Northern Ireland, NI is a domestic Provence of the UK. Yet it is Mi6 that carry out this work. (just simple example)


When you have been subject to an assassinated attempt made By a Government and these security forces in question, then I will say "oh maybe you know what you are talking about".

However I don't mean this in a derogatory manner, but from what I have been able to gather you are nothing more than somebody who knows how to use a search engine.

A search engine which is filtered by the very Government organisations you are searching about. You need better sources before you can categorically say this is this and that is that.

At the moment you can only work on the balance of probabilities, but given your sources are similar in respect to the sources in ALRKEE. Its nothing more than a coincidence information that these Security Organisations announce to the Public "Who we are and what we do".

You understand yet why I am laughing

[13thHouR]

[Bushwacker]

[13thHouR]

glad to see you still have your sense of humour.


Not that I have to do this, but what the hell I feel like typing:

Milltown Crescent, Tullyally, Waterside Londonderry, Halloween Night 2002.

I became the first Civilian (Civilian in this respect also means somebody with no association with the troubles in Northern Ireland). To be targeted for Assassination by Paramilitaries since 1972.

The Gun used in the Assassination attempt was M.O.D issue.

My Nickname is Rick O'shey as in I dodged more bullets on that night than Annie Oakley's target holder.

To be honest I try to laugh at it now, but it really was not funny at the time. To this day I still don't know how I survived. I am just glad I did.


When I think back on it now, it is laughable, the Police officer assigned to me after the shooting asked,

"How did you feel when the bullets where coming at you"?

Like I had a high probably that I was about to die, how did he think I would think.

"The thought I need a need fresh pair of trousers springs to mind"



It's quite a complex scenario that led up to this assassination attempt, but unbelievably it extends from a simple claim for Disability Living allowance. Yes you did hear me correctly. D.L.A.



However that claim has exposed fraud in numerous Government Departments, named Morris Morrow (former Social Security Minister NI), David Trimble (Former NI first Minister, Now a Baron in the House of Lords), rt Hon Maria Eagles MP, Rt Hon David Blunkett MP, Rt Hon Andrew Smith MP, Northern Ireland Office in Westminster, Judge Harris (President of the Appeals Tribunal Service) etc. In the Submission and signing off on falsified/Altered Evidence before Judicial Tribunals.

It also exposed major incidence of fraud within the DSD and DLA in Northern Ireland, where Paramilitaries where signed onto full benefit (Maximum Care and Maximum Mobility component) on Emergency grounds.

Emergency Grounds= Where the claimants are unlikely to survive to 6 -12 months because of their illness.

These people have been signed on in these terms in the early 1990's and where still receiving it in 2001. It was actually way of Government agencies to legitimately fund Paramilitary activity to the tune of Several Million Pounds.

On a similar issue when challenging about collusion between the Tribunal Service and the DLA (allegedly independent of each other) I became aware of some older Legislation which was missed by the Terrorist Act in NI and the Data Protection Act.

Namely (To Paraphrase the very lengthy legislation) that any employee of the Department of Social Development is entitled to obtain information concerning any person in Northern Ireland and share it with whom ever they choose.

It just happens that all employees of the former Northern Ireland Assembly are also employees of the DSD.

As in this was what occurred a matter of weeks after the attempted assassination.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/2453149.stm

I hold not political affiliation, so I also dealt with this guy on numerous occasions relating to what was occurring.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4884422.stm

However as you can see he turned out to be a Double Agent for the British Government.

So basically I got caught up in the middle of some major political games playing and espionage. As I became one of the few people in Northern Ireland at the time who was aware that the IRA spy ring suspects had been held arrested and held illegally. As they where legally entitled to all the information they had and shared (According to NI law).

I was also aware of some rather unusual issues concerning Mr Donaldson, as a large amount of what we discussed in private conversations was repeated back to me by Senior Staff in the NI office at Westminster.

At first I thought maybe his office was bugged, but soon ruled out when I thought about the low ranking officials that where repeating this information at Westminster (They just would not have the clearance to have access to it).

However they did have access to Information passing from Mr Donaldson directly to the NI office. Which led me to think that maybe he was a British Agent.

Definitely not information you want to be aware of if residing in NI.

Sadly it may have been a contributing factor to him being outed as a double agent.


Anyway we are getting seriously off topic. My fault I guess for even mentioning it in the first place.



btw Bushwacker I apologise if I was bit abrupt in my responses over the past few posts, normally I would not rise to such comments but even I have off days. We have enough problems dealing with the 'we don't care less mentality' and 'incompetence' of a lot of officials without fighting amongst ourselves.

The reality is with these incidents there is no right or wrong in peoples conclusions, just the more or less probable. We can discuss many issues and make others aware when official statements do not add up, but we must remember that in many cases our information extends from the very sources which decide what we can or cannot see.

So we have to keep a healthy scepticism's about any finding we make. However their is a marked difference between healthy scepticism and being an eternal sceptic.

At some point we have to remember, that if more than one person accepts something most often that becomes the facts in a case until better evidence comes along to disprove that.

Throughout the posts in this thread I have cited the issue about TACP. This is because the Official Statement by our Government contradicts the laws of physics.

To reiterate. TACP is an entropic expansion explosive.

1. It cannot burn you. (how did victims of the bombings get so severely burned? There was no ignition source even if there had been volatile solvents there.

2. It has no optical flash (Why did so many witnesses describe a flash?) If this had been a white flash (which it was not the description) then it could be argued that it was the percussive force that they seen. If you have ever bumped your head hard you will know all about that.

3. TACP self detonates in amounts over 1Kg. These guys would have needed to carry at least 10 to 20 times that (each). So that does not add up either.


Those are serious scientifically supported questions that require answers.