No Planes Theory: R.I.P.

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No Planes Theory: R.I.P.

Those who argue that there were no planes which crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11 say that "computer generated imagery" (CGI) was used to insert fake video images of planes. However, these folks are forgetting something: there are numerous eyewitness reports of people who heard the planes.

In other words, for the no planes theory to be true, not only would CGI have had to be inserted in live videocamera feeds, and all of the witnesses who saw the planes be disinfo agents, but some sort of high-tech flying sound generator would have had to be used to fake the moving sounds of planes flying into the buildings.

Here are some of the earwitness accounts:

"LT. BOB LAROCCO, FIREFIGHTER, LADDER 9: We all heard a plane that sounded like it was in trouble. So everyone stopped what they were doing. I kind of thought to myself that it was headed toward Newark Airport. I didn't think much of it. And then I heard a dull thud. I kind of stopped in my tracks and stopped for a second, and said, nah. People started running out of the stores on Second Avenue there. They were saying, oh, God, oh, God, a plane just crashed into the World Trade Center."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/15/asb.01.html

"[Deputy Fire Chief] Hayden: I was continuing on. I worked the night before. I was in my office when I heard a plane coming in low."
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/hayden.html

"Battalion Chief Joseph Pfiefer said, 'We heard a very loud plane, which you never hear in Manhattan. We all look up and see this commercial airline flying very low. We follow it and it goes right into the Trade Center. You could see it didn't veer off. It appeared to aim at the Trade Center smashed into the upper floors. Created a big fireball and then disappeared into the building. I transmitted a second alarm...20 seconds after that I transmitted a third alarm.'"
http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=41&id=5 1111

Jazz legend Sonny Rollins: "I heard this plane flying in kind of low. Then I heard, “Pow!” I pulled out this old black-and-white television set. I got it working, and then I saw the second plane come into the other tower."
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=8255

"Toby O’Berry [who worked for Morgan Stanley in the Twin Towers] . . . looked up toward the burning tower and the people leaping from it, then heard a plane rumbling across the picture-perfect blue Manhattan sky.
And then he ran. Then he heard a rumbling sound. He looked up and saw a plane smash into the south tower. All my co-workers, they’re all dead, Toby thought. Then he turned and ran, shaking people out of their stupor along the way."
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060910/NEWS/
60910003/1001&lead=1

Julie Williams, who worked in WTC2, said "We stepped out of the building walked not 8 feet and I heard another plane and I turned around and I saw the 2nd plane as it hit my building."
http://www.kark.com/news/print.asp?mode=shownews&id=7472

"I had taken the Path train to the WTC and stopped at a newsstand on my way out of the building to see if they had a magazine that I was looking for . . . . I had just passed Century21 this giant discount department store on the corner when I heard the loudest plane that I had ever heard. I stuck my fingers in my ears. Then I heard a high pitch whine like when a bomb drops. Then the impact - BAM!"
http://roolalenska.blogspot.com/

Worker in the Twin Towers said, "In my jog north I heard the second plane hit . . . ."
http://www.beliefnet.com/nllp/Inspiration.aspx?page=0&date=09-11-2006

"Everyone at the marina was out on the docks, discussing what had happened. Had the plane lost control? Then we heard another plane almost directly overhead. It was awfully low, and I said "What, is he going in for a closer look?" Then the second plane crashed into the side of the south tower. A fireball shot out both sides of the building and you could see parts of the building falling over the city."
http://www.pelorus-jack.com/boat/02_newengland/nyc.html

"Bill Continelli was in lower Manhattan on September 11, 2001. He was south of the World Trade Center and heard the 2nd plane as it flew over and slammed into Tower #2."
http://www.ourmedia.org/taxonomy/term/3714

"Standing 2 1/2 blocks away from the WTC, staring up, looking at the ball of fire in the first tower. Frozen. Paralyzed....watching charred fax papers drift down gently on the breeze. I heard the 2nd plane approaching and ran."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060909040618AAFq7Ma

"It was before 9 a.m. when I heard this plane overhead...in central NJ, we're always in somebody's flight path because of the proximity to Newark Airport. This plane was loud, and I mean LOUD, shaking the house and everything in it. It sounded like it was going to land on my roof. I looked out the window, but the plane had zipped by. About 10 minutes later, my boyfriend called and told me to turn on the news...and that's how I found out."
http://www.rr-bb.com/archive/index.php/t-220658.html

New York based Australian author, Peter Carey, said "We’re in this little street on the corner of 6th Avenue and Houston Street, you could see down there to the World Trade Center, and I heard that plane come overhead, and it was very low . . . ."
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/mediarpt/stories/s659555.htm

As soon as I heard the plane hit, I grabbed my camera and walked out on Greenwich St.
http://911digitalarchive.org/photograph/details/215

"They heard a plane."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2236210.stm

"Then I heard another plane hit."
http://kevinsteel.org/projects/music/ingodshands.html

"Early this morning around 9 am, I heard the sound of a low flying airplane. It was so loud my immediate thought was that it was a terrorist or a plane that would land on our rooftop in Greenwich Village."
http://www.readio.com/archives/0109/11WTC/nyclickers.html

"As he walked across the courtyard, he looked up to see first tower ablaze and minutes later heard a roar and saw the second plane strike".
http://www.nd.edu/~ndmag/w2001-02/9-11survive.html (James Calcagnini)

"Exiting the station, he heard the second plane hit." http://www.nd.edu/~ndmag/w2001-02/9-11survive.html (James W. Flood)

"I saw and heard the first plane as it passed over my head."
http://911blogger.com/node/2664#comment-66977

"Mar was in the shower and I was working at my desk. I heard a plane, large, slow, and way too low, and then the unmistakable crash. "A plane crashed. I heard it. I'm going out to see". I grabbed my camera and ran out of the house."
http://121contact.typepad.com/my_weblog/2003/01/010911_ground_z.html

"We had gotten to approximately point C on the picture, walking along the water, when both Rachel and I heard a plane. Looking over the southern tip of Manhatten, we could see the United jet roaring in, just skimming the tops of the buildings. Normally, when you see a jet that close, it is taking off or landing and is moving relatively slowly. This one was at full throttle. I remember yelling something like "What's he doing there?" but it went quickly behind us and was blocked from view by the buildings along the water. We didn't see the impact, but we could hear it and feel it."
http://www.bjkresearch.com/ny/

5 years ago today, I was jarred out of bed by the sound of a jet airliner crashing into the World Trade Center - six short blocks from my Manhattan apartment. . . .
When the 2nd plane hit, I was standing in my living room, watching the television. We heard the plane collide with the building first, and then saw it on TV."
http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/

"On the morning of Sept. 11, as I prepared to leave for work, I heard a plane roar over our building, followed by a horrible echoing boom."
http://pacificcitizen.org/mirikitani.htm

"Before the first blast, staff on the streets around Trinity heard what to some sounded like military jets carrying out a low flypast before hearing the blast."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_26_118/ai_79127822

"State Superintendent of New York works two miles from the World Trade Center. He testified of his mother’s deliverance from the area when the crash happened. “My mother got off the subway train about 9:00, and the World Trade Center was burning at the top”, recounts Diaz. “The people in the area said that it was a accidental airplane crash, so everyone carried on as usual, buying breakfast, etc. Suddenly, she heard a plane engine coming, and the people starting screaming and running, and she with them. She ran to the park. The plane then went directly into the building."
http://www.houseofgod.org/articles/news/news_oct01.htm

"Something hit one of the trade center towers. I was on the phone with my wife listening to her telling me to leave the city and come home, when the second plane flew past our building and crashed into the second tower. This time we all heard the plane hit and we felt the blast."
http://www.giolist.com/2002_09_01_giolist-archive.html

No plane theory: R.I.P.

This list of eyewitness accounts is by no means comprehensive. There are HUNDREDS of similiar reports. If you want to find additional accounts, use the following search, and start on page 17 of the Google results:

[chek]

Can't say it'll be missed very much.

Though hang on, not so fast - have we eliminated hi-speed multi-prismatic lasers directing holograms into all their eyes?

[Ally]

you missed out these:

Jon Gold said...
You're disinfo... Disinfo I say!

12:31 PM


Tesla sould have been shot said...
Military technology is always developed in secret -- especially when it has unlimited 'psy-ops' and state-terror value.

Have you ever heard of Dolby Digital Surround Sound? Couldn't loud speakers have been set up on surrounding buildings? Think about it. Millions were spent on this operation, perhaps billions. How much extra effort would it entail to install speakers if they had the means of setting cutting charges in the WTC buildings???

What about this:
"...'the voice from heaven.' By tuning the resonance of a laser onto Earth’s ionosphere, you can create audible frequencies. Like some boom box in the sky, the laser-produced voice could bellow from above down to the target below: 'Put down your weapons.'"
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10805240

And this:
http://www.nasatech.com/Briefs/Apr02/NPO20101.html

And yes, with the money being spent on 'information war', the witnesses who say they 'saw' a plane could easily be lying. Just like the so-called 'witnesses' that 'saw' a plane hit the Pentagon.

The NWO is not just coming from the top-down. Why are there Masonic lodges in every town? What do these societies do other than spy, lie, and conspire for the NWO? I'm sure that there are MANY neo-fascist Masons standing in line to lie for the fascist movement.

9:07 AM


Area 911 said...
"A technique for projecting holographic images to make both still and moving three-dimensional displays is undergoing development. Unlike older techniques based on stereoscopy to give the appearance of three-dimensionality, the developmental technique would not involve the use of polarizing goggles, goggles equipped with miniature video cameras, or other visual aids. Unlike in holographic display as practiced until now, visibility of the image would not be restricted to a narrow range of directions about a specified line of sight to a holographic projection plate. Instead, the image would be visible from any side or from the top; that is, from any position with a clear line of sight to the projection apparatus. In other words, the display could be viewed as though it were an ordinary three-dimensional object. The technique has obvious potential value for the entertainment industry, and for military uses like displaying battlefield scenes overlaid on three-dimensional terrain maps."
http://www.nasatech.com/Briefs/Apr02/NPO20101.html

Don't forget, they are FAR AHEAD in the realm of technology of the reports that appear in the headines. If NASA says that this technology is "being developed", we can safely assume that it exists at a far more advanced stage and that it is already operational.

This was the case with particle beam weapons and microwave lasers, which were first tested secretly on innocent people in Panama in 1989 (see the documentary film The Panama Deception), and were revealed officially just within the last couple of years.

Many believe that crop circles were part of the space-based microwave laser's refinement process and not some 'alien message'. It was much easier to dismiss and cover-up as an 'outlandish conspiracy theory' when it was associated with the 'extra-terrestrial' theories.

9:50 AM


Anonymous said...
there is a wide breadth of area between a 9/11 skeptic and a true conspiracy theorist, and the true conspiracy theorists are the no-planers.

i guess you can believe anything you wish when you are so far gone as to believe all eye witnesses lied, all video is fake, all photos are fake, etc. etc. that is a true conspiracy theorst.. why? because they can't prove any of it, they just believe in it.

10:35 AM


Area 911 said...
I don't believe anything of the sort. I am simply saying that the 'no plane' theory isn't dead because we are not in a position to kill it.

I wasn't there on that day, and I assume that you (anon.) were not there either.

Ponder this: the entirety of a hollow plane composed of relatively thin light-weight aluminum cut into a skyscraper made of steel-reinforced concrete and inches-thick steel perimeter box-columns, like a hot knife through butter.

The bulk of that plane should have blown to pieces on the OUTSIDE of the building.

So please, save your 'conspiracy theorist' ad hominems for those who deserve it: the idiots who believe everything that they see and hear in a technofascist society and ignore REAL possibilities.

Maybe the witnesses were not all lying. Maybe some were, like the phoney witnesses at the Pentagon.

Maybe, just maybe, the planes were advanced holographic projections. I didn't invent this possibility like some 'wingnut' might have; NASA and the military did.

In this conspiracy driven class-divided world, there are only conspiracy realists (veritable skeptics) and their antitheses: supernumery sleepers, blind cattle, or active fascists.

11:03 AM


Area 911 said...
Since we are being fed a load of * concerning the events of that day (not to mention most other significant historical events), we must look at the evidence and consider all possibilities to uncover the truth.

How did the planes disappear into the WTC towers without being ripped to pieces by the perimeter columns and the bulk of the debris falling to the ground??

We may never know the answer unless the criminals are brought to justice, but we can devise theories based on what we do know.

What was that white-hot projectile that was ejected from WCT2 by the explosion? Was it a depleted uranium penetrator from the warhead of a missile? Was it a piece of steel engulfed in a exothermic reaction of prepositioned thermite initiated unintentionally by the plane's fireball?

Was the video of a flash milliseconds before the plane entered WTC1 doctored or did the flash really occur? If the flash is real, was it a missile or prepositioned explosives planted on the outside of the building, which were used to cut the perimeter columns by exploding inwardly as the plane entered?

Was there really a third plane in the sky during the collisions? I saw it on a video, but is the video real? If it is real, like the unidentified white plane flying over D.C., what was it doing there? Was it projecting a holographic image of the planes?

These questions are all legitimate because the purported events defy logic and science. Until these questions are answered it will be preposterous to claim that the 'no-plane theory is dead' because of eyewitness reports.

The truth is, nobody really knows what they saw that day. We do know that the planes could not have taken down the buildings, but WHAT, in god's name, caused the pulverization of everything but the steel columns?? And, WHAT in hell caused the mid-air disintegration of WTC2's top 35 or so floors after it began to topple over???? Even Dr. Jones, the good physicist, admits in his peer-reviewed paper that he is stumped on that one!

Call me crazy, but it sounds like 911 was the first significant use of their new space-based 'beam weapons'. Since concrete contains water, perhaps an intense and focused microwave beam (laser) was used to excite the water molecules of the towers until the concrete just crumbled into a fine dust. Of course, since metal conducts electrons when bombarded with photons (photoelectric effect) and would not have been affected by microwaves, the columns were cut by simultaneous thermite and thermate reactions.

Any other THEORIES should be welcomed, because theories are all that we will have until the people wake up collectively and take the world back from the elite monsters that continue to steer the course of History.

12:43 PM


Anonymous said...
I am not familiar with claims associated with no-plane speculation concerning the Towers - although it does look credble that 3 buildings were pre-set for implosion with explosive charges - and chemical fire pattern recorded on video, and chemical material left afterward is surely troubling.

It is the Pentagon explosion that is the most troubling. A military censorship of an enlisted persons Blog recently occurred - and his case raises more questions than one wants...especially with the President also suspending WhistleBlower Protection laws the week of the 9/11 Anniversary.

Reports say that the hole in the Pentagon was too small to have been caused by a Jetliner. And there is reportedly no trace of debris or bodies.

Some speculate that the entire plane and all bodies must have been instanly incinerated after impact? Site witnesses say one could look through the blast hole to see unburned wood furniture inside. In an incineration blaze nothing of the sort certainly would have remained. Where is the evidence that a plane did fly into the Pentagon? What happened to the plane - and few passengers who were allegedly on Board?

Were defense planes held back over an hour by Executive Order - or because they could see no threat?

Why did they not protect known targets?

What testing has been done to verify what happened at the Pentagon? Where is the documentation? These are reasonable questions - and I am happy to help dispel rumors and concerns whene I see credible evidence. Truth *should* win.

2:48 PM


Area 911 said...
I agree about the Pentagon.

But, the towers were *not* imploded. WTC 7 was; that is clear from the videos.

The towers turned to dust and neatly cut sections of steel. The dust clouds expanded like pyroclastic flows normally associated with volcanic eruption clouds, indicative of the HUGE amount of energy involved.

Was all this simply the result of cutter charges?

WTC 7 fell into a neat pile of rubble with much less dust created in the process.

Something is amiss.

4:10 PM


ewing2001 said...
GeorgeWash, who seems to be the closest buddy of Prof.Jones nowadays feels the need to jump on the recent hatred-bashing train of AJones, Nafeez Ahmed and Rodriguez (who himself supports pod guy v. Kleist?), while just this week yet another new amateur video didn't show any plane.
http://www.911tvfakery.net

GeorgeWash is using the dried out witness argument, while he cannot explain all opposite accounts:

http://911closeup.com/nico/witness_contradictions.html

1)
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/03/10/nicos-timeline-cnns-reality-tv -hoax/
"...I have witnessed a horrible history. I was supposed to go to NJ for a
seminar. I was on the BQE bridge going into Chinatown, Manhattan, when I saw
an explosion at exactly 8:48am on the first Twin Tower. The radio said that
it was a plane accident. I immediately called my sister in NJ, who normally
has to get to the World Trade Center station (she works for the Mayor's
office, 4 blocks away from WTC). I told her that there has been an accident
and told her to avoid that station. She said that my brother will drive her
to Manhattan instead. I then placed another phone call telling
my best friend to stay away from the area. My friend has jury duty and the
Supreme

Court is 3 blocks away. Suddenly, I saw a second explosion but did not see
the plane.
http://www.geocities.com/vnwomensforum/september11debate.html

(NOTE: BQE Bridge is local slang for Brooklyn Queens Express running over
the Williamsborough Bridhe)


2)
http://www.panix.com/userdirs/timothy/wtc.html
"...We all looked up at the WTC to see one tower on fire. There was a ring
of fire encircling the building one floor...near the top. The floors above
the ring were enshrouded in thick black upwardly rising waves. Every second
or two the fire crept lower--floor by floor---dripping like wax down a
candle.

The thought of those people...they're being incinerated..there's no way to
control that fire. Then a huge fireball--monstrous in size--shot out and
up---like some horribly visible dragon's breath.(this was the fireball from
the impact of the second jet--I didn't realize this until after viewing the
footage of the attack)..."



3)
http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?ID=4318
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/images/m04.jpg
"...Then out of nowhere came this noise. This loud, high-pitched roar that
seemed to come from all over, but from nowhere in particular. AND THE SECOND
TOWER JUST EXPLODED. It became amazingly obvious to anyone there that what
we all had hoped was a terrible accident was actually an overt act of
hostility. I DIDN'T SEE THE PLANE HIT,ALTHOUGH I WAS LOOKING AT THE TOWER AT
THE TIME. I have no recollection of pushing the button, hitting the shutter,
making the picture that appeared on Page 2 of the Daily News the next day, a
picture that was taken milliseconds after the second plane hit that tower..."


4)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/have_your_say/september_11.shtml
... Gemma McDonald, Houston, Texas: On the morning of September 11. I was
getting ready to go to school, when the news station broke in with breaking
news. They said a plane had hit the world trade center. They were in the
middle of broadcasting that story live, whenever a big fireball appeared out
of the other tower. In order to see what hit the tower. They had to replay
the tape in slow motion. We didn't know what had happened because we didn't
see the plane, because it was so fast. Whenever I did figure out what
happened I got this weird feeling across my body that I can't describe..."


5)
TV'"witness":
http://www.vegasgangonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7574&page=2
"...stood there watching the coverage in the airport until my flight was called.
I saw the explosion in the second tower and thought it was because of the
first tower burning as I didn't see the plane hit. My flight was called
about 9:20 and I boarded the plane, we all sat there until about 9:35 when
the pilot announced taht all flights were cancelled. After I got of the
plane I went back to the TV and saw what was going on.."


6)
Hispano amateur cameraman, who didn't see any object hitting south tower,
while filming both towers:
http://www.cruzate.com/nyhell/3.jpg
Compare with same geograpical position of towers aT Rosalee's site
(Antenna is in the back of second= north tower)
http://www.webfairy.org/2hit/blueplane.htm

http://www.cruzate.com/nyhell
"...When I was back in the roof I saw
just before my eyes the explosion on Tower 2.
I didn't see the plane, nor did any of the other
guys on the roof. We speculated for a few
minutes. The only thing we could imagine was
on of the wings of the first plane hitting the
other tower and provoking the explosion, but
that was very unlikely...."


7)
From an amateur camera clip, camera positioned on both towers:
"...we just saw another explosion (TV comment)...."
Person 1 in room: "...Another explosion Kate..."
Kate: "...i know, i know..." (noone of both refered to any plane)
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/day1-tower2-fireball-only.wmv



Don Dahler vs. ABC
Dahler:
...i didn't see any plane going in...that...that's just exploded...i...
Gibson:
We just saw another plane coming in from the side.
Dahler:
You did?? I...that was ..was...out of my view...
Gibson:
That was a second explosion.
You can see the plane come in just from the right hand side of the screen...
(=> Dahler's witness report 'overruled' by a TV monitor)
http://thewebfairy.com/911/haarp/reporter.didnt.see.plane.wmv


9)
Witness Reporter Winston on NBC, which had same synched W-ABC clip:
the "building is exploding right now"
The studio host doesn't even see his monitor where the same W-ABC footage
shows same black flying object vanishing behind first tower, then followed by explosion and fireball (no sound).
The studio host agrees with street reporter (who didn't report any incoming 'plane', that this explosion must have been forced from 'parts of the first plane..."
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/msnbc_2ndCGIplane_wrongtower_touch.mpg
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/CGIplane_touches_northtower.jpg
(RENDERING UPLOAD MISTAKE)

10)
http://thewebfairy.com/911/bombs/
Witness: NO second plane, it was a bomb....
FOX clip
Reporter Rick Leventhal is whisking witness away: "we heard about tv reports..."


11)
Pilot Witness:
http://www.montclair.edu/pages/alumnilife/alumnilifewinter02/features4 .html
"... I saw a flash and fireball from the top of the World Trade Center.
....Due to the angle and altitude of our flight, I have sometimes experienced the optical illusion of something appearing to hit a building.
We then flew south to the Battery to see if whatever had hit it had gone out the other side. We saw heavy damage on the south side of Tower 1, but saw nothing of substance on the ground or on Tower 2, so we decided to go back north again, all the while just on the water's edge on the Manhattan side at about 900 feet. Ninety seconds after leaving the Battery, in the spot where we had just been looking, the second plane hit the second tower. We never saw the plane, but I could see the flash of the impact from behind us.

12) More amateur tapes showing no planes at 2nd attack (06/02)
Dialogue between guy and his girlfriend:

Man: "...wtf**k. What was that?

Woman: "I don't know"
Man: "..they're f**in bombing it...
Must have been a rocket or something.."

13) Two dudes do not catch any plane

http://tinyurl.com/nhuu6

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2137200753344880184&q=9%2F11&p l=true

tower 1 on fire only filmed by amateur and his buddy, then unfortunately shortly edited and started filming again...

"...oh my god..." (amateur camera continues filming after 2nd attack on ST, but no comment on any plane....!!)

dialogue of two dudes continues:

guy 1:
"...that must have been a fukin terrorist attack. Probably that just explode.. that doesn't make any sense, that has...

interrupted by guy 2:
"...How did THAT ONE just catch on fire man?... see this stuff is falling out...

14)Bird "sees" no plane (check out blog below)

not added yet:
15)

http://www.stefangeens.com/000158.html
"...about 20 minutes after the first explosion, a huge fireball erupted out of the South tower, about 2 thirds of the way up. People screamed on the roofs around me, where everybody was beginning to gather. Most memorable is the bright bright orange of that explosion, and also the crispness of it; it's a quality difficult to describe--it's the quality of NOT seeing it on television, at a much higher resolution and in the outdoors, under a clear sky. The boom came later.
It was difficult to know what had just happened. I already knew from the radio that the first explosion had been caused by a plane. Was the second caused by a news helicopter accident? The plane that caused this second explosion had in fact come from behind the tower, so from my vantage point I had not seen it.

16)

http://p066.ezboard.com/fnypdrant64609frm1.showMessage?topicID=43159.t op...
"...As I was the only security guy on sight I wasn't able to leave right away. Due to the angle of the buildings I never saw the second plane hit, but could clearly see the results..."

17)
The Revver Video (09/12/06)
Has no Plane in it

6:04 PM


Area 911 said...
P.S.

Planes do NOT incinerate upon impact, EVER. That is physiclly impossible.

6:10 PM


ewing2001 said...
Furthermore GeorgeWash' silly attempt to reduce the debate into "NPT" is as old school as to reduce it to "hologram".

The evidence of "9/11 TV Fakery" is still solid, also seen in my 25 minute video collage at
http://911cgiblogspot.com

Whether we have to prove what exactly "nothing + x" is, which hit instead the south tower, is still on another paper.

Also, even with respect to mega hero Alex Jones, until this weekend he didn't even know the difference between holography and CGI, until i explained it to him.

Nafeez Ahmed's suspicious own agenda leaning between LIHOP and Pakistan spin, can be also categorized as a MI5-shill asset agenda.

Rodriguez supported disinfo like v.Kleist in his latino show and still confirms, that he didn't see or hear any incoming plane either.

Then we have a new struggle of the controlled demolition crew within the movement, which is represented by:

-rising popularity worldwide by screwloosechange
-a new battle against a professional dutch investigative piece around the students and professors of Delft
-political failure of Loose Change team at Amy Goodman to ignore linking both Goodman and PopMech as shills (Goodman herself gets money from the CIA front Ford Foundation)
-almost a complete blackout by MSM on the ny911truth convention and mega protest
-Prof "Los Alamos" Jones taken out of radar and not even speaking out anymore since days.
-new LIHOP/hangout attack by Thompson/Hence
-instead MSM continues to play the movement by playing a new political right-leftwing diversion with the help of Russia/Iran ally Hugo Chavez and ex-General Dynamics Bob Bowman for the forthcoming election hangout trip.


Is that enough?

Better think again, what you guys desperately try to oppress.
We have not much time left to stop WW4-5.

This years anniversary protest was for sure a mega party and helped tanking energy for everyone, but in one week from new you will feel the hole you soon fall into....

And this was scripted since the beginning of 2006.
You're a fool.

6:39 PM


james ha said...
We all heard a plane that sounded like it was in trouble.
when I heard a plane coming in low.
what kind of plane did they hear? because what we saw on tv was a 767 but analyses of this 767 reveals it to be nothing more than a cartoon. and a real 767 would make a hole bigger, not smaller, than a 767 - if it could make even make a hole in wtc2 at all.

We all look up and see this commercial airline flying very low. We follow it and it goes right into the Trade Center. You could see it didn't veer off

wow did they see the ua175 that approached from the SSE or did they see the ua175 that approached from the SW? because we saw 2 different ones depending on which channel we were watching.

8:08 PM


cgihugger said...
Interesting that all the witnesses HEARD the plane but hardly any saw one. The 'plane' was probably a huge missile.

[blackcat]

Please please please Moderators - move this * into Critics Corner. Then erase critics corner!!

[chek]

Ally, you seem to give a lot of weight to what you imagine SHOULD be happening. But that is defined by your own experience and that is not the same as objective evidence.

If you've ever been to an airshow, you'll know that at low altitude hi-speed jets can often be right on top of you without you even hearing them approach. It's NOT an uncommon phenomena, certainly it proves nothing except your own lack of experience in this area.

At low level, 500mph (700+ ft/sec) is beyond a normal high street experience. It would cross an average streets roofline in less than a tenth of a second at that speed.

Someone in the atmospherics field might even be able to calculate the sonic footprint which would show who could hear and who wouldn't depending on their location.

I was at last able to get round to watching that link to the What We Saw video you posted. That had some interesting new info on it - is there a thread on it somewhere?

[Ally]

You're the one who can't seem to tell the difference between hear and see.

[chek]

Fair enough (and I'm open to Tesla and mini pure fusion devices having been used. What the hell disintegrated that core 'spire'?). but NPT is far from convincing from my perspective, even with my limited knowledge and experience. Bottom line is I've not yet seen anything that's unexplainable regarding your theory.

When the time for the new Enquiry comes, ALL the evidence should be heard.

Good luck on your quest, but for me there's far more direct physical evidence to be collated and built into a case.

[Garrett Cooke]

I attempted to write a response here but was never satisfied with what I had written. Anyway I came across a recent speech by Gerard Holmgren which includes everything I wanted to write - and more - only better written than I could ever write it.

To be found at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/matters.html

[chek]

Garret, surely this would only apply in a scenario where there were no eyewitnesses? With eyewitnesses desribing the planes (the markings described by one witness conflicting with the Official Version), the fallacy falls apart.

And the reason NORAD didn't intervene was because they were off on wild-goose chase 'exercises' east, north, west and south - anywhere but where they might have intercepted.

He is right about one thing - the images are eternal, but TV fakery doesn't explain zip to me, except maybe for some deep psychic need to believe it didn't really happen that way.

[Jim]

FYI -

Source:

9/11 The Twin Towers, BBC1, aired 2006-09-07

TC: ~00:33:00

Fuji Bank office
Floor 81, South Tower

Stanley Praimnath witnessed aircraft colliding with building:

[graphicequaliser]

Yeah, but it was a holographic wing that sliced through his holographic door ...

[Ally]

[quote="JHR"]FYI -


Stanley Praimnath witnessed aircraft colliding with building:

[chek]

[quote="Ally"]