How many conspirators?

[Ignatz]

Assuming a mainstream CT, with actual airplanes and actual terrorist pilots, facilitated by the US administration, and actual "explosives" in WTC1,2+7 ...
How many people would be in on it? here I'm limiting the debate to people who actually know that there's a CT as opposed to people who simply wonder why they've been told to suspend the investigation into that dubious Arab guy who wants to learn to fly a 767...

8 utmost top-level neocons - Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz etc
20 very high level administrators - Cheney's top lackey etc etc
20top level military, CIA, FBI etc to squelch counter-measures
4 consultant experts in demolition, building engineering, fire technology, aviation
20 Men in Black to plant explosives over the course of a year or so
20 builders to help the Men in Black to deal with the grunt work.
20 planted security people at the buildings themselves to ensure unchallenged access for the Men in Black
10 infiltrated security experts to negate security CCTV and so on
6 Al Qaeda double agents to make damn sure the attack actually happens, including OBL
20 fire chiefs, police chiefs, cleanup operators etc to ensure the post-attack evidence is covered up
1 Silverstein
20 high level NORAD and ATC personnel to make sure the planes get through
30 members of the various commissions that conspired to cover up the truth
20 communications experts and operatives to ensure no incriminating electronic(email, mobile phone etc) or paper trail
200 people who just happened to spot something monstrously wrong, know there's a plot afoot, and need buying-off or death threats
100 operatives to track anybody who might require an 'inducement'

[DeFecToR]

Jesus Christ.

Playschool.

[Ignatz]

[DaveyJ]

stop looking at the big picture, what you need to do is ignore the glaring facts and logical arguments, but instead go and pick through endless footage and facts till you find somthing tiny and irrelevant that could be intrepeted in another way.

then the student becomes the master
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[DeFecToR]

[Ignatz]

[wepmob2000]

Yep, my argument exactly, the bigger the conspiracy, the more people that could potentially leak details, etc.

Don't know about the controlled demolition idea, but it certainly blows most of the other theories out of the water.......

[DeFecToR]

Christ i am sick an tired of you morons and your loaded questions.

Before i answer what you know is an impossible question to answer, why dont YOU jump through a few hoops for me instead.

How many people do you think were involved in Iran-Contra? Or MK-Ultra? Or the invasion of Indonesia? Or how many people have attended and organised the Bilderberg group over the years? Or what about project Paperclip and the rat lines?

Now i have sense, and am not expecting any kind of realistic answer to these questions as it is an impossible task. But nevertheless, i am in critics corner were idiots abound, so i might as well join in eh?

[aggle-rithm]

[DaveyJ]

exactly, any thing you use as a refrence just shows how easy it is for even minor opperations to become public knowledge, nice point aggle

but dont let things like common sense get in the way of a bit of self glorification
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[DeFecToR]

[Ignatz]

[DeFecToR]

[aggle-rithm]

[DaveyJ]

sorry the irony is brilliant.

we're "naive and gullible to the point where the frustration you put me through is a hazzard to my health"?

I would love to be proven wrong, i love conspiracy storys and cover ups, but to belive them i need evidence.

at the moment the case is Science, logic, maths, expert opinion and a little common sense ---- Versus ----- Supistion

The scariest thing in life is people who are unable to accept their wrong, i know i could be wrong, and will happily admit to it as soon as shown some evidence. But youve got none, can you honestly say you've sat down in the barrage of evidence aginast your conspiracy and thought

"well maybe im wrong"

i know i have, but all its taken is 5 mins on google and a little common sense to realise all your points are ridiculous.
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[DeFecToR]

[jsut_peopel]

[DaveyJ]

please i'd really like to see a uniformed front as a theory. But the only time we get engage in a disucssion is when a sceptic posts somthing debunking a theory. which ends in petty bickering.

My opinion is that 19 men, with at least a years planning, martial arts training in close combat and confined spaces, with lots of funding (Osama bin laden may be hiding in a cave now, but pre 9/11 he was a millionare, i belive his family are part of the saudi royal family and are comfortable billionares) armed with "box cutters" which is still a decent sharp 3" blade, which is of long to peirce the heart and easily slash the face/arterys. Call them what you want, its a leathal weapon. These men, then hijacked planes a flew them into key miltiary and iconagrapic images of america as part of a holy war. This caused damage to one building, one plane crashed on flight to target (i belive it is assumed that the passangers overthrew the hijackers in this case) the other two hit and destoryed their intended targets, the WTC. Ive seen a tape of osama openly admiting the attack was even more effective then planned.

Thats it, whats your take?
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[DeFecToR]

Okay. I am going to answer your question and then i WILL NOT be posting on this topic again.

I DO NOT WANT TO ENGAGE YOU.

Got it? I have been banging my head up against the wall with you people for long enough. I have a certain amount of time to do the things i wish to do and i refuse to allow you people to bait me in to protracted nitpicking for days on end.

In answer to your question, i DONT KNOW what happened on 911. All i know is i have looked very closely at the official story and it is swiss cheese to me. I am still learning as much as i can about 911 and guess what, i doubt i will ever know exactly what happened. But that fact wont stop me from trying.

Now please, i am asking you politely as one human to another, stop asking me questions? The temptation to get drawn in to this childish rubbish can be too much sometimes and i have far more important things i need to do.

I apologise for posting on this topic without having the wish to actually debate but there it is. I just dont see the point.

Feel free to post a reply that makes you feel like you 'won' the arguement knowing i wont post back but how about you just be decent and reply 'fine', and leave it at that?

[aggle-rithm]