Can truthseekers Unite?

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

suppose the 9/11 myth is exposed and society goes in a rapid downward spiral as the imperialistic forces of control whither and die rapidly ... in the ensuing order from that particular chaos - what unites 'us'?

Once the mammoth torchlight uniting the broad range of people here (even broader in America and globally considering the Islam faction) is gone - what remains?

is this important?

should it be important... perhaps more important than any other single issue?

i like to look ahead instead of into the past. Anyone care to comment?

Justin · Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject:

Our common humanity in pursuit of spiritual truth is what will unite us. We must all embrace and practice the teachings of the Mahatma Gandhi within our own communites so as to attempt to avoid the violence, extreme anger and bitter recriminations that will surely follow once the NWO/Illuminati/Neocon 9/11 House of Cards collapses. The great unravelling will begin then and people will start to wake up and see how they have been duped by the imposition over the centuries of divisive religions and political creeds, greedy and ruthless banking scams, destructive and dangerous alopathic medicine and the suppression of 'free energy' and other enormously helpful technologies. The future will be great.....but our real job will only begin once 9/11 is exposed.

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

Hi Justin

How do you connect to infinite conciousness?

Do you have to drink that tea that makes time stand still?

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

justin is pipe dreaming to a very well talked about future which in hollywood style everyone awakens and gets in touch with their inner humanity.

no need for sarcasm!

my question is what happens in reality once this all falls - theres going to be no romance about the years following a revelation of 9/11. Will anyone be united? or will it be all against all as hobbes said

THETRUTHWILLSETU3 · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1009

I wasn't being sarcastic - a genuine question - have been watching David Icke

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

oh your referring to his ayahuasca trip in south america... im familiar with icke.

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

i dunno how this turned into an infinite oneness icke-esque debate!

anyone else got a take on this matter?

Bicnarok · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject:

In the "truth seeker" community, like other joint activites religions etc there would be and is bickering and disagreement over small questions.

Theres spook and rediculers who without the use of valid arguments and facts criticise and mock.

And the movement is too easily divided.

We agree with on one thing though..... SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD WE LIVE IN

ian neal · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:43 am Post subject:

This is a crucial topic: where are we headed with all of this? How do we imagine it will be played out?

It has been asked before on related threads

Here are some examples of my thoughts on the subject

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chek · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:56 am Post subject:

iro · Moderate Poster Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 376

chek: how can an advanced system of progressive taxation solve anything?

do you not understand that forced taxation is a method of coercion and is slavery for want of a better term. Your tax and mine is now being spent killing children in Africa by default and in actuality in Iraq/Afghanistan.

Increasing the tax hoarde is madness - whoever has the reigns of power will then be even more powerful. The tax system was created by despotic leaders in the ancient world and developed by the european monarchies to consolidate their own power and keep the populace down and poor and subservient.

tax therefore is a symptom of the problem and it also has to go.

Anyone arguing for increases in tax (socialists) are asking for a bigger state and less control over their own lives - they want big daddy to come and do it all for them. The right who supposedly want less taxation so that the market can rule our lives is an even worse prospect as private interests are wholly unaccountable. better off surely to ditch the whole system and be done with all of it and redesign from the bottom up.

The foundations of our society are rottten - why keep buliding on that rotten core?

Rousseau said 'man is born free, but he is everywhere in chains' highlighting how the society we live in leeches off us and entraps us from birth. This is the reason 9/11 happened and the reason why no one has broken their shackles on mass and said 'down with the oppressors' insead what do people do.... they go on a jolly march holding placards then go to starbucks on the way home to their comfy life thinking they have made a difference.

I suppose a link would come in handy regarding my taxation ideas as they may seem mad to some. I believe in zero taxation. it is not as mad as you may think and it is not a recipe for anarchy - but freedom FROM the state whilst still reaping the benefits of having a state.

Robert Nozick is the key proponent of this idea and it is an extension of the liberalism paradigm of thought - here is an short article i wrote on nozicks theory:
http://p4.forumforfree.com/anarchy-state-and-utopia-robert-nozick-vt11 86-laidbackchat.html

and a far more extensive summary:
http://world.std.com/~mhuben/wolff_2.html

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