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What is the most compelling evidence for MIHOP?

World Trade Center 1 & 2 Collapses

12%

[ 2 ]

World Trade Center 7 Collapse

50%

[ 8 ]

Flight 93 anomalies

[ 0 ]

Pentagon anomalies

12%

[ 2 ]

Other

25%

[ 4 ]

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prole art threat
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:07 am Post subject:

I just do not understand why any of you are here. _________________ 'Maybe if I can show some lurking kids that this is all a pack of lies, then maybe I can make a difference. I don't plan on converting any of you because you're all mad.' -Johnny Pixels

chipmunk stew
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:12 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

Why dont you get on with your life now.

"why isn't this woman burnt to a crisp? Look at her asbestos dress!"
"the firefighters were paid off"
"boxcutters? HAHAHHA! If someone came at me with a boxcutter, I'd break his neck with my suitcase"
"the phonecalls could have easily been faked"
"the plane parts were probably planted"
"Arab cavedwellers are too primitive to do 9/11"
and on and on and on...
That's why. You lot disrespect the dead and disrespect the folks who tried to do the right thing that day and disrespect the folks who dealt with the aftermath. It really pisses me off.

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What is it that brings you to this dingy critters corner to protest the innocence of a bunch of psychopathic criminals?

"alleged hijackers"
"bin Laden said he didn't do it"
"the FBI admitted they don't have any evidence that bin Laden did it"
"Ziad Jarrah's daddy said his little boy would never hurt a fly"
and on and on and on...
Seems you lot are the only ones protesting the innocence of a bunch of psychopathic criminals.

chipmunk stew
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:14 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

I just do not understand why any of you are here.

Well you don't strike me as the empathetic type, so I'm not surprised. You also don't seem very observant.

prole art threat
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:16 am Post subject:

What are you doing here? Your version of events corresponds with the 'Official Story', so why are you here? You obviously find us a massive threat or you wouldnt spend most of your life on here. Explain that part to me. _________________ 'Maybe if I can show some lurking kids that this is all a pack of lies, then maybe I can make a difference. I don't plan on converting any of you because you're all mad.' -Johnny Pixels

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:18 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

You obviously consider the 9/11 Truth Movement to be a very real threat or else you wouldnt spend all your time here?

It's not a threat, it's just morally repugnant and it's a gross manifestation of deep mistrust or paranoia combined with a lust for emotional confirmation and a disdain for thinking.

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:19 am Post subject:

chipmunk stew wrote:

prole art threat wrote:

You obviously consider the 9/11 Truth Movement to be a very real threat or else you wouldnt spend all your time here?

It's not a threat, it's just morally repugnant and it's a gross manifestation of deep mistrust or paranoia combined with a lust for emotional confirmation and a disdain for thinking.

So, what has it got to do with you?
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:20 am Post subject:

chipmunk stew wrote:

prole art threat wrote:

Why dont you get on with your life now.

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What is it that brings you to this dingy critters corner to protest the innocence of a bunch of psychopathic criminals?

LIke I said. Not very observant.

prole art threat
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:20 am Post subject:

Why dont you just let us get on with it and chuckle from the sidelines? _________________ 'Maybe if I can show some lurking kids that this is all a pack of lies, then maybe I can make a difference. I don't plan on converting any of you because you're all mad.' -Johnny Pixels

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:22 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

Why dont you just let us get on with it and chuckle from the sidelines?

Because. Although it's extremely funny and entertaining at times, deep down
IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:22 am Post subject:

Im convinced you find our movement to be a massive threat or you wouldnt be wasting time on a spent cause. _________________ 'Maybe if I can show some lurking kids that this is all a pack of lies, then maybe I can make a difference. I don't plan on converting any of you because you're all mad.' -Johnny Pixels

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:24 am Post subject:

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Im convinced you find our movement to be a massive threat or you wouldnt be wasting time on a spent cause.

I'm convinced you're a socially retarded paranoid nutjob.

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:25 am Post subject:

Tell me why it 'really pisses you off'? _________________ 'Maybe if I can show some lurking kids that this is all a pack of lies, then maybe I can make a difference. I don't plan on converting any of you because you're all mad.' -Johnny Pixels

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:50 am Post subject:

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Listen, I have been researching it for the last 14 months. It was an inside Job and the people who believe the official version are becoming an ever decreasing circle, which means your job is just going to become harder and harder. Ask yourself this, why is the 9/11 Truth Seeking community increasing on a daily basis?

Heh. And that's what it's really all about... belonging to something... the striking resembelence to this movement and a fundamentalist religion is astounding. Contempt of science, belief on faith, need for belonging, need for answers.

Also, "appealing the majority" is a logical fallacy. Even if everyone comes to believe 2+2 is 5, it doesn't change the fact that it's not.

Finally, the 9/11 truth movement has been consistently shrinking, getting smaller, over the past 3 years. The same arguments have been repeated ad nausem. The arguments have all been debunked. You guys will be moon-hoaxers, before too long.

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:52 am Post subject:

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Why are you here?
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:55 am Post subject:

To promote science and human reason, and make sure it is correctly applied by people who care about the truth.

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:58 am Post subject:

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To promote science and human reason, and make sure it is correctly applied by people who care about the truth.

Yeah, but if we are as insignificant as you inferred earlier, surely the populace will realise what a lame duck our movement is without your efforts?
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:59 am Post subject:

Then why invite us here ?

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:00 am Post subject:

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Yeah, but if we are as insignificant as you inferred earlier, surely the populace will realise what a lame duck our movement is without your efforts?

Because I believe all honest people in search of answers deserve them? Not all CTers are worth abandoning into the intellectual void...

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:03 am Post subject:

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Then why invite us here ?

I didnt invite you here. That is not my question. I am asking why you people feel you have something to offer that is gonna make the blindest bit of difference to the lifeforce of the Truth Movement and why you have appointed yourselves such a task. Why does it mean so much to your personally? I would be quite interested to find out what makes you tick?

For instance, say tomorrow, a whistleblower comes out and spills the beans, how would you deal with it on a personal level?
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:04 am Post subject:

If you feel we are no threat and have nothing of value to say why lower yourself to come down and question us?

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:06 am Post subject:

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If you feel we are no threat and have nothing of value to say why lower yourself to come down and question us?

I dont see you as a threat. It's the first time I have bothered to come down here. I suppose it's a morbid curiosity? Youre not a threat at all. Youre a dying breed.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:08 am Post subject:

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Many people are "reformed" CTist, and I've spoken with many of them in person and online. Feel free to believe that what we do makes no difference. I can't prove it to you, but it does.

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For instance, say tomorrow, a whistleblower comes out and spills the beans, how would you deal with it on a personal level?

Easily? I am a scientist. If the evidence changes, so do my conclusions. I will have no personal "issues" with choosing the best theory until it is no longer the best theory. For some reason you seem to project a large amount of yourself on the validity of your own personal version of events.

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:08 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

stateofgrace wrote:

Then why invite us here ?

I didnt invite you here. That is not my question. I am asking why you people feel you have something to offer that is gonna make the blindest bit of difference to the Truth movement and why you have appointed yourselves such a task. Why does it mean so much to your personally? I would be quite interested to find out what makes you tick?

For instance, say tomorrow, a whistleblower comes out and spills the beans, how would you deal with it on a personal level?

Maybe this section should be closed then?

Why do you come here, what makes you tick?

Why do you not accept the vast majority of the scientific and engineer’s thoughts on this matter?

Why do you feel it necessary to condemn Bush on false theories when you time could be served better condemning on reality?

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:09 am Post subject:

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Many people are "reformed" CTist, and I've spoken with many of them in person and online. Feel free to believe that what we do makes no difference. I can't prove it to you, but it does.

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For instance, say tomorrow, a whistleblower comes out and spills the beans, how would you deal with it on a personal level?

Why are you wasting your time here?
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:10 am Post subject:

stateofgrace wrote:

prole art threat wrote:

stateofgrace wrote:

Then why invite us here ?

You didnt answer my questions.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:11 am Post subject:

Because I'm not wasting my time. I know you don't believe it, but many people come to this site, read this forum, and find actual answers to common questions based on CT deception and/or psuedoscience. "Debunkers" have a very big effect, whether you believe it or not.

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:12 am Post subject:

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Because I'm not wasting my time. I know you don't believe it, but many people come to this site, read this forum, and find actual answers to common questions based on CT deception and/or psuedoscience.

"Debunkers" have a very big effect, whether you believe it or not.

Well, good luck with all that, because youre going to need it.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:12 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

stateofgrace wrote:

If you feel we are no threat and have nothing of value to say why lower yourself to come down and question us?

I dont see you as a threat. It's the first time I have bothered to come down here. I suppose it's a morbid curiosity? Youre not a threat at all. Youre a dying breed.

Is this your expert opinion based on no other believes other than you are actually the saviour of humanity and everybody cares what you have to say?

Do you speak out loud to people in real live what you say here, and let evrybody know you have a silly link in your signature showing Bush on a white horse?

Do you do this?

Do you find that people mock you in real life , so you escape he and vent off your pent up frustration because nobody listens to you or cares what you have to say ?

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:14 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

stateofgrace wrote:

prole art threat wrote:

stateofgrace wrote:

Then why invite us here ?

You didnt answer my questions.

I don't have to any more than you will answer mine. Your questions are pointless, like your childish immature beliefs

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:15 am Post subject:

prole art threat wrote:

Well, good luck with that because youre going to need it.

Repeating things to yourself to make them seem more true, doesn't make it so. Unfortunately, your constsant droning on about "winning" and "losing", and your perceived motion of the "debate" isn't really relevant to the truth. I hope you realize that.

Good luck to you too, because you're definitely going to need it too.

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