Study: 655,000 Iraqis Died Due to War

[John White]

[chek]

Those are sobering figures, and together with this item are events we should all be ashamed happened 'on our watch'.

"Last summer, crimes piled up in Iraq. 3,590 people were killed in July '06; 3009 in August.

In Baghdad alone, the Coroner's Office reported 1,600 bodies arrived at the morgue in June and more than 1,800 bodies in July. 90% of the killings were executions.

It seems impossible to count how many people were tortured in Iraq over the past several months. The chief expert on torture for the United Nations, Manfred Nowak, says bluntly that the current situation is "out of control." The United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI) released a report in September which said that bodies sent to the capital's morgue "habitually bore signs of severe torture, including acid-induced injuries, burns caused by chemical substances, missing skin, broken bones, backs, hands and legs, missing eyes and teeth and wounds caused by power drills or nails." The Iraqi authorities confirmed that most of the bodies that were found in the past six months bore serious signs of torture."
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1010-35.htm

[jason67]

But dont forget that the people of Iraq are much better off than they were under Saddam, aren't they?
GW and TB say that they are so it must be true.

[adam1]

Yes,
thank goodness we've got rid of that horrible man who was there before. Any luck, and our boys will be home in time for Xmas!

[Steven Collins]

At least we can safely say that George Bush is a holocaust denier, the Iraq holocaust that is, a direct result of his military's invasion.

Mr Bush reaffirmed past estimates that the death toll was closer to 30,000. "Six hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at... it's not credible," he said.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/12/wiraq12.xml

In the past, Mr Bush has put the civilian death toll in Iraq at 30,000, and hours after details of the latest research were published he dismissed JHBSPH's methodology as "pretty well discredited".

"I stand by the figure that a lot of innocent people have lost their life... and that troubles me, and it grieves me," Mr Bush told reporters at the White House.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6040054.stm

(yeeeeeeeeeee sure it does Georgyboy, you're only troubled & grieved that its not more....yet)

[John White]

Despite the protestations of the "official number crunchers" (to be diplomatic):

Going round houses asking "how many have died here since 2003" and then doing calcualtions with the data sounds like a common sense approach to counting the dead to me

Someone dead becuase of no medicine, water or elecetricity, or broken sewers and bad food, has been killed becuase of the invasion just as surely as by a bullett, becuase the conditions of his or her death have arisen as a direct consequence

I gurentee the Iraq's (and the rest of the middle east) will view it like that

[jason67]

Robert fisk was on sky news this morning discussing the issue. He came across really well and its on their web site at the moment. Check it out as its well worth a look.

Unfortunalty I'm really c*ap on the computer and do know how to link something. (if anybody can help the pm me!)

[Bicnarok]

I heard on radio 5 today from an on the ground reporter that an average of 100 people die every day. Most arn´t reported as they are kidnapped, taken away shot and dumped.

considerin this mayhem and the fact that the coalition forces are rediculing and in some cases torturing people in secret CIA prisons.

All this and civil war looms. It was probably better under saddam from the iraqi point of view.

[AntiZionistAntiNeocon]

All this violence is not without reason. People thinkn that thiis violence ad killing mean that the USA and the UK, and the Israeli masterminds behind the invasion of Iraq are failing. BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PLAN!!!

The reality is that the splitting of Iraq into 3 parts is well known as being one of the major war aims, since the war was still in the planning stages.

That is why I think there is so much communal violence in Iraq -- the Americans and the British need all this Sunni vs. Shia violence in order to justify splitting the country as they wanted. Therefore, it come as no surprise to find that the instigators and culprits behind the violence are actually the invading forces. This was also reported in the mainstream press, but the full import of what actually happened was overlooked:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/200905stagedterror. htm

The above article is very important! Simple and classic divide and conquer. Now the British can step in and say, "well, we have to split the country now, for the safety of its citizens" whereas that is what they (the USA and Israel) wanted in the first place.

One of the ultimate aims is the Balkanisation of the Middle East, along the lines of the Bernard Lewis Map:

http://www.daanspeak.com/IranAttackBernardLewisMap.html

and the control of Iraqi (rather, the new Kurdistan, and the new Shia state) oil by Israel through the pipelines laid decades ago:

http://www.vialls.com/subliminalsuggestion/army4a.jpg

Joee Vialls analysis was very astute -- he understood what was happening such a long time ago! Guardian has also picked up on this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,940250,00.html

Beware. The plan is old. It seems obvious to me that the British and Americans and Israelis want Iraq split. I think they also want Iran split as per the Bernard Lewis map -- remember the "ethnic armies" ?!?
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[Bicnarok]

Interesting stuff.

[ian neal]

[jason67]

[chipmunk stew]

[Andrew Johnson]

That's an interesting commentary there CS and yes it is shocking.

So do you support the Iraq Conflict? Do you not see any link between WMD lies, 9/11 lies and the sanctioned invasion of Iraq by the USA (at least in terms of public if not a stated link between Iraq and Al Q)?

[John White]

[chipmunk stew]