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John White
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject:

Explaining what Mr Pixels? The doors of my car would be open pretty swiftish if I had some thermate land on the bonnet, I can assure you! And I wouldnt be too fussed about closing them after me! _________________ Free your Self and Free the World

Patrick Brown
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

That only works with “Bush Science” in reality you would need the help of explosives i.e. e”x”tra energy.

Come on fluffy sniff you know you want to.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

The doors were open.

Fek me thats the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
Laughing

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aggle-rithm
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject:

Patrick Brown wrote:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

That only works with “Bush Science” in reality you would need the help of explosives i.e. e”x”tra energy.

Come on fluffy sniff you know you want to.

Why do you continue to pound aimlessly on your keyboard like a monkey on crystal meth? Don't you have ANYTHING of value to say?

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject:

Some of you guys need to talk with Wood+Reynolds. They claim those cars were trashed with Star Wars beam weapons. Exactly why agents were waving the beam weapons around car parks isn't totally clear, but I'm sure they'll explain if you ask nicely. _________________ So remember - next time you can't find a parking spot, go to plan B: blow up your car

aggle-rithm
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject:

Ignatz wrote:

Some of you guys need to talk with Wood+Reynolds.

They claim those cars were trashed with Star Wars beam weapons. Exactly why agents were waving the beam weapons around car parks isn't totally clear, but I'm sure they'll explain if you ask nicely.

And be careful! They're easily startled.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

Explaining what Mr Pixels?

The doors of my car would be open pretty swiftish if I had some thermate land on the bonnet, I can assure you! And I wouldnt be too fussed about closing them after me! Laughing

The rear paint isn't burnt because the doors were open.

Funny how this thermate will cut through a steel beam in seconds, and yet only manages to take the paint off a car.

Why hasn't it melted the plastic lights on the top of the car?
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Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject:

Patrick Brown wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

The doors were open.

Fek me thats the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
Laughing

So this thermate that kept metal molten for weeks, couldn't do much more than strip the paint off a car?

Please redo from start.
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Patrick Brown
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Ignatz wrote:

And be careful! They're easily startled.

Are you sure, to be sure?

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

So this thermate that kept metal molten for weeks, couldn't do much more than strip the paint off a car?

I said:

Quote:

Lets consider that nanothermite which did not ignite may well have been present in the plumes of dust seen as the tower collapsed. This dust cloud could have caused flash fires as sparks of active nanothermite fell through the plumes.

The foot needs you.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject:

Patrick Brown wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

So this thermate that kept metal molten for weeks, couldn't do much more than strip the paint off a car?

I said:

Quote:

The foot needs you.

Yep, I read that post and understood it

Back to you Mr Pixels
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

See, clear evidence that the shills make stuff up. Three airliners at the WTC?

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject:

James C wrote:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

See, clear evidence that the shills make stuff up. Three airliners at the WTC?

The "ignoring exaggerated claims being brought into persepctive" dodge is a good one too

50,000 demo charges anyone?
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Patrick Brown
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject:

James C wrote:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

See, clear evidence that the shills make stuff up. Three airliners at the WTC?

Good one James I don't think falling debris, even steel beams, have the same velocity as aircraft impacting at 500+ MPH.

So the bird is stuffed!
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

Patrick Brown wrote:

James C wrote:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

See, clear evidence that the shills make stuff up. Three airliners at the WTC?

Good one James I don't think falling debris, even steel beams, have the same velocity as aircraft impacting at 500+ MPH.

So the bird is stuffed!

I have to say I'm rapidly getting bored with all their nonsense.
It's not even well thought out any more (if it ever was).

Patrick Brown
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject:

chek wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

James C wrote:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

See, clear evidence that the shills make stuff up. Three airliners at the WTC?

Good one James I don't think falling debris, even steel beams, have the same velocity as aircraft impacting at 500+ MPH.

So the bird is stuffed!

I have to say I'm rapidly getting bored with all their nonsense.
It's not even well thought out any more (if it ever was).

The thesis then antithesis idea was perhaps the argument for the reason to let these peeps persist. I must agree with chek even though I've been driven to seek answers by these shills they do indeed inject a lot of fluff!

All smoke and no fires, just like the events of 911! And well the mirrors seen at the collapse of the north and south towers will be analysed for luminosity etc to see if they could have been reflections of sunlight.
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aggle-rithm
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject:

Patrick Brown wrote:

Good one James I don't think falling debris, even steel beams, have the same velocity as aircraft impacting at 500+ MPH.

So the bird is stuffed!

It doesn't have to have the same velocity, if it has greater mass.

Darn that elementary physics!

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

James C wrote:

aggle-rithm wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible.

Yes, you'd have to do something really drastic like, I don't know...crash airliners into them?

See, clear evidence that the shills make stuff up. Three airliners at the WTC?

The "ignoring exaggerated claims being brought into persepctive" dodge is a good one too

50,000 demo charges anyone?

And still getting dodged!

Well, thats the circus which is critics corner Twisted Evil

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

Patrick Brown wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

So this thermate that kept metal molten for weeks, couldn't do much more than strip the paint off a car?

I said:

Quote:

The foot needs you.

Yep, I read that post and understood it

Back to you Mr Pixels

How does a burnt car prove nanothermite? An ordinary fire could have done that.

But I guess that isn't exciting enough for you.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject:

And what was the cause of that "ordinary" fire? Seemed to affect rather a lot of vehicles Looks like critics need to regroup on this one, and you, Mr Pixels, need to refute the scenario being put forward properly (the debris cloud contained thermite residues) or be on your way _________________ Free your Self and Free the World

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

And what was the cause of that "ordinary" fire? Seemed to affect rather a lot of vehicles

Looks like critics need to regroup on this one, and you, Mr Pixels, need to refute the scenario being put forward properly (the debris cloud contained thermite residues) or be on your way Cool

Is that the crooked path that the man walked on for a whole mile? Well, what to make of it, I don't know. I'll leave the shadow play up to the shills although I do a rather good Kermit the frog!
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

Did you miss the aircraft hitting the WTC at 500 mph? causing a fire? And then collapsing to the ground?

You can't just put forward a theory and then expect it to stand without evidence until I knock it back, or I could claim that there was an invisible girl scout with a flamethrower in the tower. Prove there wasn't.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

John White wrote:

So that pesky jet fuel incerated cars on the gorund as well as melting all the steel, causing fireballs down to the lobby though non-connecting elevator shafts, vaporising airplanes and all the other stuff it pulled? Wow!

PB put forward a hypothesis, and youve made no sense out of refuting it. Ho-hum, thats how it goes. Claim its firethrower weilding girl scouts if you like, but I'd like to see the photo evidence if its all the same to you Wink

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Anti-sophist
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

melting all the steel,

Yawn. Lie.

Johnny Pixels
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject:

John White wrote:

Johnny Pixels wrote:

John White wrote:

No, I didn't say that. I said that there was a fire in the building, and the building collapsed, possibly taking flaming debris with it.

Quote:

PB put forward a hypothesis, and youve made no sense out of refuting it. Ho-hum, thats how it goes. Claim its firethrower weilding girl scouts if you like, but I'd like to see the photo evidence if its all the same to you Wink

I'm using the same photo as evidence of my flammenwerfer girl scout. Now prove it wasn't.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject:

Nah, I'll just take you as pawned and mugging it mate prove your not! _________________ Free your Self and Free the World

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject:

Patrick Brown wrote:

Anti-sophist wrote:

Again, I repeat, for the fourth time, no mechanism for cutting a vertical column using thermite has ever been demonstrated.

But with 911 I do have an opinion which says that three class A buildings falling at near free fall speeds seems very unlikely if not impossible. You can fiddle the figures and tell us that the fires and structural damaged did it but that just serves to prove a point about you as a poster here.

That's a cute dodge to coverup the fact that thermite has never cut a veritcal column Sad

More importantly, it's more opinion and guesswork from someone lacking basic high school physics. It lacks any analysis or weight. When you get some analysis, let me know. Until then, keep guessing. You opinion of what is and isn't possible, given no background knowledge and no math, is on the whole meaningless and useless.

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