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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject: FBI Claims 84 Videos |
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FBI Claims 84 Videos
Show NO Flight 77 Impact
FBI Claims 84 Videos
Show NO Flight 77 Impact
By Jon Carlson
carlson.jon@att.net
10-8-5
Photos taken after the Pentagon crash do not support the Government conspiracy theory that Flight 77, a Boeing 757 airliner, demolished a major portion of the masonry structure:
Seismic waveform data also brings into question what struck the Pentagon. Seismologists have detected other 9/11 aircraft even pinpointing exact crash times for the Boeing 737 airliners that crashed into the WTC Towers and the aircraft alleged to be Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania. The seismologists observed:
We analyzed seismic records from five stations in the northeastern United States, ranging from 63 to 350 km from the Pentagon. Despite detailed analysis of the data, we could not find a clear seismic signal. Even the closest station ( = 62.8 km) at Soldier's Delight, Baltimore County, Maryland (SDMD) did not record the impact. We concluded that the plane impact to the Pentagon generated relatively weak seismic signals.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/nodate/seismicobservations .html
The RENSE article, The 911 Pentagon Engine Story,
http://www.rense.com/general67/911eng.htm
explained that the JT8D engine identified in the debris in front of the Pentagon wall could have been from early Boeing 737-100 and 737-200 airliners or an assortment of other aircraft. Since witnesses decribed the incoming Pentagon aircraft having two engines under the wings the number of possible aircraft comes down to a handful.
National Geographic reported that the FBI confiscated a video tape from a Citgo gas station within a half hour of the crash. Without asking the questions how did the FBI know of the tape and how did they grab it so quickly, many people think the aircraft model could be identified from that video since the aircraft flew directly over the Citgo station
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1211_wirepentagon.html
The RENSE article, Missing Pentagon Unobstructed Citgo Videos,
http://www.rense.com/general63/unob.htm
develops the Citgo station story with more outstanding photos.
Even though America's Coverup Agencies, the FBI and the Pentagon, have fought tooth and nail to prevent disclosure of what really happened at the Pentagon on 9/11 photos, witnesses have already filled in the blanks. Get up to speed by reading The RENSE article, Sneak Preview - 911 Pentagon Tapes:
http://www.rense.com/general64/911et.htm
In that article American patriots are taking the DOJ and the FBI though the wringer in a Federal Court. A retired FBI agent told this writer that FBI lawyers are hacks. He claimed any good attorneys go to work for the other side!
Bronco Bingham is the plaintiff in the main FOIA action to obtain the Pentagon videotapes. His crackerjack attorney, Scott Hodes, is running circles around the FBI lawyers.
TIMELINE FOR BRONCO BINGHAM, SCOTT HODES FOIA REQUEST
Courtesy of Bronco Bingham www.flight77.info
October 14, 2004
FOIA REQUEST: all videotapes that showed the Pentagon crash impact in any office of the FBI. The request mentioned that the Citgo station and the Sheraton National Hotel had videos taken by the FBI on 9/11.
November 3, 2004,
FBI ANSWER: no Sheraton National Hotel videotapes
November 17, 2004
APPEAL: Where is the Citgo video? FBI answer was inadequate search. Responder was inexperienced with indexing procedures. Request that searcher ask 9/11 investigators directly for location of videos.
December 1, 2004
FBI letter acknowledged receipt of APPEAL letter.
March 7, 2005 (4 months later)
FBI letter in respnse to APPEAL: A tape was found but release would interfere with enforcement proceedings.
THAT VIDEO is believed to be the video source of the famous Pentagon Parking Lot stills. Attorney Hodes noted in the FOIA request that stills from the Parking Lot video had already been released by CNN:
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/index.html
However, the FBI claims those stills were 'leaked' by the Pentagon and NOT officially released. Therefore, the FBI doesn't considered them to exist!
In the Sneak Preview - 911 Pentagon Tapes article, a helicopter was prominent in the 'leaked' stills. Its function was to remote control the aircraft at the construction entrance located at ground level to make it appear the plane actually penetrated the Pentagon:
The renovated Pentagon section that was targeted had special steel, kevlar reinforced masonry walls and 'blastproof' windows. Jack Singleton explains how the aircraft got partially into the Pentagon:
"Where the plane came in was really at the CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE," says Jack Singleton, president of Singleton Electric Co. Inc., Gaithersburg MD, the Wedge One electrical subcontractor. "The plane's left wing actually came in near the ground and the right wing was tilted up in the air. That right wing went directly over our trailer, so if that wing had not tilted up, it would have hit the trailer. My foreman, Mickey Bell, had just walked out of the trailer and was walking toward the construction entrance."
http://web.archive.org/web/20040404074145/
http://www.designbuildmag.com/oct2001/pentagon1001.asp
From witness accounts the aircraft piled up on the Pentagon masonry wall and after a short while was blown to bits that rained down for blocks. The Parking Lot stills show THAT explosion and the parts of the aircraft in the air along with the helicopter. THE FBI PARKING LOT VIDEO WOULD SHOW THE IMPACT, THE DELAY, THE EXPLOSION, THE HELICOPTER, AND THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT.. Here are three of the 'leaked' stills from that video:.
March 8, 2005
COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF
Inadequate search and release of records. Failure to timely respond. Requests injunctive relief that defendants immediately and fully comply with plaintiff's FOIA request.
April 18, 2005
DOJ RESPONSE: Claims no records have been withheld. ADMITS Citgo tape was confiscated but it doesn't show Impact. Claims no Sheraton video.
April 19, 2005
JUDGE'S ORDER
It is hereby ORDERED that the defendants shall file a motion to dismiss or a motion for summary judgment before June 31, 2005.
August 1, 2005
DOJ SEEKS SUMMARY JUDGMENT on basis of Videos withheld because of ongoing enforcement proceedings.
August 29, 2005
OPPOSITION TO SUMMARY JUDGMENT: Requests FBI release parking lot video and make a better search. Claims video CAN'T be withheld under amendment 7 as its release will not affect the sentencing of Zacharias Moussaoui who has already pled guilty to six charges of conspiracy to commit the terorist attacks that included hijacking and crashing Flight 77 into the Pentagon on 9/11.
September 9, 2005
DOJ Reply to Opposition to Summary Judgment: Similar to above DOJ reply.
September 9, 2005
EXHIBIT FOUR from the count case was a DECLARATION of FBI agent Jacqueline Maquire on the discovery of 85 Pentagon tapes from 9/11.
1) Using associated written documentation BUT not viewing them, 56 videos didn't show the Pentagon building, crash site, or crash impact.
2) Viewed 29 tapes personally but sixteen videos didn't show the impact and crash site
3) The other 13 videos showed the Pentagon crash site. Twelve of these tapes showed the crash site after the impact. Agent Maquire found only a CD-ROM with the Parking Lot video copies.
4) Found one Citgo station video. A FBI video unit was asked to determine if it showed the impact but no impact was seen.
5) Found no Sheraton National Hotel video. Found a Doubletree Hotel video but no impact was seen.
September 26, 2005
Second FOIA request: Seeks copies of 85 tapes as decribed in the Maquire Declaration.
In a response to another FOIA request attorney Peter Gersten was told the Citgo station video and another video from a Virginia Department of Transportation camera were confiscated but are withheld for ongoing enforcement proceedings.
Peter gets the LAST WORD:
I am sure that you (FBI searcher) are aware that FOIA exemption (b)(7)(A) which applies to law enforcement records requires a showing that the production of such records or information could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings. The two CCTV videos purportedly show what several witnesses have publicly stated they observed: Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon on 9-11-01.
As I stated in the appeal of my initial request, the debate over what hit the Pentagon has thrived due to the apparent contradiction between the eyewitness and physical evidence. Whereas a large body of reports of eyewitness accounts strongly supports that a twin-engine jetliner (Flight 77) swooped in at a very low altitude and exploded at or in front of the Pentagon, photographs of the facade and lawn show an absence of aircraft debris or a pattern of damage consistent with such an aircraft.
The resulting evidence vacuum has created the conditions for a protracted controversy about what hit the Pentagon. The lack of evidence of large aircraft debris in post-crash photographs of the Pentagon's exterior, combined with the refusal of officials to produce evidence supporting the official story, has led many skeptics to believe that the damage was caused by something other than a jetliner hitting the building.
Further, there is neither video footage nor any photographic evidence in the public domain showing a jetliner approaching or crashing into the Pentagon. Not only has the government refused to release footage that would clearly show how the Pentagon was attacked, it has also seized footage not belonging to the military. The FBI reportedly confiscated video recordings from three locations shortly after the attack (Sheraton National Hotel, NEXCOMM/CITGO gas station, and the Virginia Department of Transportation). The FBI has, in its latest response admitted possessing at least two of these CCTV videos. These two recordings could provide decisive evidence about the crash and end the controversy.
All the perpetrators who directly participated in the hijacking of the jetliners and the subsequent attacks are dead. Even assuming that the FBI is conducting an ongoing investigation, the release of the two CCTV videos would in no way jeopardize, compromise, or hinder that investigation since the videos merely show what everyone already is aware of ? Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon.
http://www.pagenews.info/foipa/foipa_04112005_reply.php
http://www.pagenews.info/foipa/foipa_03242005_reply.php
The RENSE article, 9/11 Flight 93 Passenger 'Lost',
http://www.rense.com/general67/911pass.htm
presented the case for the New Orleans Levees being blown. A new discovery of a seismic heliogram at the time of the explosions (6-7a.m, August 29th.) shows mysterious wave motions. Around 7 p.m. the collection of data stopped. Wayne Madsen has reported that Ham radio operators said their FM signals were jammed as Katrina went through. The seimic station connects to the Network via the FM band also.
http://www.ceri.memphis.edu/katrina/
http://www.ceri.memphis.edu/katrina/images/LTL_HHZ_LI.2005082900.gif
Most important of all, 2008 Presidential candidate Karl Schwarz says it is time to take back America. See his message and the party partform:
http://www.karlschwarz2008.com/home.htm
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http://www.rense.com/general67/911pass.htm
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http://www.rense.com/general67/911eng.htm
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The Rest Of The 911 Flight 93 Story
http://www.rense.com/general67/rest911.htm
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Dirty Little 9/11 Secrets Exposed
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http://www.rense.com/general64/911et.htm
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http://www.rense.com/general64/wth.htm
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Warp_2567 Minor Poster
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I really did think a plane crashed into the Pentagon, but it wasn't Al Queda's doing.
Think about this:
The plane goes right through the Pentagon. The wings of the plane are GOING to BREAK off. The body of the plane is STILL intact, and that's how it made this perfect hole in that one section of the Pentagon.
Why is it so suspicious to you guys that there's a hole at the end? The plane is like a bullet. It has a nose at the end. Therefore, the nose makes this hole that looks like a missile went through and hit it.
Also, there WERE airplane parts found around that section that got hit. I know someone who works at the Pentagon, and she said that it definitely was an airplane that hit the Pentagon. They cleared up the debris immediately after they put the fire out.[/b] _________________ ---------------------------------------
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Linda Validated Poster
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Romford Essex
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: FBI CLAIMS 84 VIDEOS |
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If you thought a plane hit the Pentagon, WHY is there no CTV COVERAGE to back this up??????????
Why was all the CTV CAMERAS AROUND THE PENTAGON, THE MOST HIGHLY DEFENDED BUILDING IN AMERICA!!!!!!! NOT WORKING???
WHY WAS THE CTV FOOTAGE CONFISTGATED WITH IN MINUTES FROM THE GAS STATION ACROSS THE ROAD TO THE PENTAGON???
WHAT HAVE THE PENTAGON GOT TO HIDE, IS THE QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD BE ASKING YOUR FRIEND AT THE PENTAGON.
Better still go check out the missing footge and tell us all what we want to know.
There has been much research done and many anomalies, have been found, that just do not add up..
It is not ROCKET SCIENCE to see through the deception staring you in the face.
A 3 YEAR OLD KID COULD PULL APART THE OFFICIAL STORY OF 911 IN A FEW MINUTES.
NO ONE COULD FLY A PLANE THAT LOW ON THE GROUND, WITHOUT MAKING SOME SORT OF SCORCH MARKS, TYRE MARKS, and guide it into the AREA THAT HAD JUST BEEN RENOVATED.
ESPECIALLY BY PILOTS THAT HAD JUST BEEN GIVEN BASIC LESSONS.
THIS WAS A GUIDED MILITARY MISSILE, NOT A PLANE.
THE PARTS FOUND ON THE LAWN WERE NOT FROM A PASSENGER PLANE.
WHY WAS THE PIECES SO SMALL?? WHERE IS THE BLACK BOX??
WHERE ARE THE BODIES OF THE PASSENGERS??
GO DO SOME RESEARCH AND COME BACK WITH THE REAL TRUTH.
IT IS ALL OUT THERE BUDDY.
Missing Pentagon Unobstructed Citgo Videos
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Spectre Minor Poster
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 56 Location: North West
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Warp_2567 wrote: | I really did think a plane crashed into the Pentagon, but it wasn't Al Queda's doing.
Think about this:
The plane goes right through the Pentagon. The wings of the plane are GOING to BREAK off. The body of the plane is STILL intact, and that's how it made this perfect hole in that one section of the Pentagon.
Why is it so suspicious to you guys that there's a hole at the end? The plane is like a bullet. It has a nose at the end. Therefore, the nose makes this hole that looks like a missile went through and hit it.
Also, there WERE airplane parts found around that section that got hit. I know someone who works at the Pentagon, and she said that it definitely was an airplane that hit the Pentagon. They cleared up the debris immediately after they put the fire out.[/b] |
this guy is a spoiler - don't even give him the time of day! |
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