Alex Jones TerrorStorm and Molten Steel Footage

graphicequaliser

I recently obtained 2 DVDs. The first was Loose Change 2, and this was excellent, concise, clearly presented and irrefutable. The next was TerrorStorm, and this really "got me off"!

TS is about government-sponsored terrorism over the decades. But there is one bit in it about 9-11 that really shook me up. It is even more "in your face" than the demolition squibs so apparent in the collapsing buildings videos.

Just prior to the collapse, some close-up footage is shown of the floors in one of the towers. It clearly shows (and I mean extremely unequivocally clearly) molten steel pouring out of the corners of the floors, with accompanying sparks, and some white-hot liquid metal. A scientist, who recognised this as a special type of cordite used to cut structural steel, decided to go there and collect a sample of the molten metal from the pavement at ground zero. This he did, and the chemical analysis proved without doubt, that those materials and techniques were exactly what had been used. So, we have chemical analysis of evidence from the scene that proves CD, and we have unbelievably clear video footage (lots of it!) that proves CD too.

Having seen this, and then seen some of the Yanks' reactions to suggestions that 9-11 was an inside job (to plant a special type of cordite on all structural steel junctions requires months of preparation), it is as if there will be 2 factions of people worldwide.

1) Those who believe what they saw was actual reality and accept what they have seen as the truth, rather than what anyone else says is the reality.
2) Those who believe what they saw was what they were told to see by the government, after the event.

The majority are currently in group 2. Their reality is not actually real. It is painted by the media and evil factions within the government. Ideas designed to cull their senses. There are some very desperate people in this group - they fastidiously cling to the official story, no matter how much evidence to the contrary is brought into plain view. In my opinion, many of these people appear to be dangerously insane.

We are (on the whole) in group 1. We believe our senses to convey an approximation of what the real universe is to us in order to survive. Denying these senses is a dangerous and anti-survival thing to do, so we don't. We enjoy things obeying the laws of physics, because it fits with the rest of how the universe seems to work. Group 2 people never want to think about these things. They are mind blind, they accept what they are told by govt. scientists, as gospel. They accept traditions as a necessary evil. They accept their brutal history as "par for the course for the aggressive homo sapiens species". I don't accept any of these things at all. And I'm beginning to feel a bit lonely! Crying or Very sad

Leiff · Trustworthy Freedom Fighter Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 509

Don't be lonely Graphic!

Aggressively burn some DVDs, hand them out and create some like minded people!

graphicequaliser · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject:

I have already distributed 2 of the 20 Loose Change 2 DVDs I bought on ebay for £17.50 - I'm now on my way to 10 Downing Street to give Blair his personal copy! Wink

Skeptic · Validated Poster Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 485

20 for £17.50 - are they official copies?

Patrick Brown · 9/11 Truth critic Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1201

Take a look: http://search.ebay.co.uk/Loose-Change-DVD_W0QQfkrZ1QQfltZ9QQfromZR8

andyb · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject:

Woodee · Moderate Poster Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 159

just watched Terrorstorm... sure is an interesting documentary

graphicequaliser · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

Wokeman · Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject:

GE,
Please don't feel lonely. You aren't alone!

andyb · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:12 am Post subject:

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

I would like to highlight that what graphicequaliser is incorrect. He said;

Skeptic · Validated Poster Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 485

yeah as far as I can tell GE means Steven Jones and the sample(s) he obtained were in fact sent to him by people involved in making memorial sculptures out of WTC steel - when the steel was given to them it had bits of reformed metal on it and this was sent to him

unfortunately it's not the strongest sourcing for a sample - he will, at least, need to have the people who provided the samples come forward

I see Alex Jones more as an activist than a journalist - although his work is prolific and much of what he says is accurate, he does make a lot of mistakes

chek · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:33 am Post subject:

I haven't seen Terrorstorm yet, but I think I know which clip you mean from other videos.

Is it the one where a noticeably brighter flame appears on the corner slightly below the crash site floor?
Assuming this is the one, Jones has pointed out the noticeably intenser brightness , the white plume of smoke rising from it, and the shower of sparks which change from yellow hot to red hot as they fall hundreds of feet.

Jones has conducted experiments to eliminate that it is molten aluminium, (whose surface quickly oxidises to a silvery appearance even at molten temperatures) or even molten aluminium plus debris. It is suggestive - but only suggestive - of a thermite/thermate burn, and as Tele suggests, is only circumstantial rather than actual hard evidence.

I agree that you have to be careful waving these bits of evidence around, as it's easy to be wrong-footed by someone with even marginal analytical or scientific skills. There are other factors such as chain of custody of the eveidence to consider also before you'll win any sceptics over.

By all means point out that it is suggestive or even very indicative, but never claim it demonstrates 'proof', and you'll be on much firmer ground.

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

Strange how things turn out.

chek · Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject:

telecasterisation · Banned Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 1873 Location: Upstairs

Not a problem, obviously I am only being flippant.

Strange though how graphicequaliser goes all reclusive when compromised? He does make that type of behaviour habitual.

Anyway, many thanks graphmeister for the use of one of your holiday photos. Catch up soon big guy.

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