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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: 21 Dec 1988 - Lockerbie, The Maltese Double Cross? |
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The Maltese Double Cross
Since September 11th 2001, the tragedy which befell the small Scottish town of Lockerbie on December 21st 1988 has been belittled in its status as a terrorist atrocity. A second look at a documentary from the mid 1990's reveals startling parallels.
The official narrative of what happened leading to the events which put Lockerbie in the history books has as many holes in it as the official narrative of September 11th. Although initial substantiated suspicions pointed the finger at Syria and Iran, two Libyans, Abdel El Baset Ali Mohamed al-Megrahi and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah were eventually accused and brought to trial. In January 2001, Fhimah was acquitted but al-Megrahi was sentenced to life imprisonment for planting the bomb on Pan Am Flight 103 and failed in his 2002 appeal.
Investigations by many journalists, including the late Paul Foot and David Yallop uncovered a scandal of fake evidence, controlled delivery of drugs under the supervision of the CIA and DEA and the manufacture for a pretext for aggression against Libya. Several 'VIP' passengers were apparently warned not to take that flight and during one of the busiest travel periods, the days leading to Christmas, an aircraft takes off half empty. Evidence strongly suggests that the attacks were in all likelihood a contracted act of revenge against the US whose ship, the USS Vincennes, shot down an Iranian A300 Airbus in July of 1988 killing some 290 passengers, mistaking it for an Iranian F14 fighter. It has also been suggested that the US was embarrassed by this blunder and went so far as to permit the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 in order to clear the ledger.
It could be claimed that Lockerbie was in response to the 15th April 1986 US airstrike on Libya which appeared to be an assassination attempt on Muammar al-Qaddafi (Colonel Gaddafi) - only his quarters in a sprawling complex was hit killing his adopted daughter. But the material evidence for this is slim and depended entirely unreliable evidence. The Swiss manufacturer of the timer used, Mebo, - who had so many clients (both state and otherwise) they could not properly account for where their products were destined though this time had been supplied to both Libya and the Stasi. The planting of evidence, a piece of circuit board from this timer. A discredited forensic 'scientist' who was exposed as unqualified and having been instrumental in the wrongful conviction of alleged IRA bombers. A Statement about evidence which was made before the evidence existed. And the constantly changing eye-witness account of a Maltese shop owner who, it is claimed, sold the clothes used to pack the suitcase containing the bomb.
But the most startling revelation which seems to have snook back under the rug is the secret channel by which material, including drugs, was, and probably still is, ferried around the world in a fleet of brown Samsonite suitcases which were enabled by a network of baggage handlers. Michael Ruppert's exposé of 9/11, Crossing The Rubicon, is unequivocal in his links between the attacks of September 11th and drugs.
Al-Megrahi remains in Greenock prison where he is living out his life sentence. The spectre of September 11th is so monumental that this probable miscarriage of justice is likely to be forgotten.
The only copies of this 150 minute documentary are poor quality .wmv versions which can be found to download using peer to peer software which uses the eMule protocol.
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Ally Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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pity no link to the flick, can u upload to googlevideo, i notice it's not there. ta
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather not - it's a 280Mb file and I don't have the confidence in the upload technology to keep up with the upload.
I will create a torrent of it shortly and make it available on Conspiracy Central: http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/ and elswhere. That way the file quality will not be degraded. It looks like a VHS rip - it obviously predates digital technology but if you are interested it is very watchable.
I'd also recommend the Private Eye Special on Lockerbie - still available from their distributor though their website sometimes says it is sold out.
I don't think we are allowed to upload torrent files here so I'll post back when the torrent is uploaded to Conspiracy Central.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Alwun kindly supplied me the WMV which I converted to a DVD.
If anyone wants a copy please PM me.
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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It's seeding quite nicely now via The Pirate Bay tracker.
Some folks have it over half downloaded in just two hours.
Does anybody know what David Shayler's position is on this now? He doesn't post very often, though I know that Annie does.
When he spoke at The Trial of Tony Blair in Manchester a few years ago he seemed to follow the official account. When I asked him about it last year he still seemed to believe that Libya were responsible.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Flamesong wrote: |
Does anybody know what David Shayler's position is on this now? He doesn't post very often, though I know that Annie does.
When he spoke at The Trial of Tony Blair in Manchester a few years ago he seemed to follow the official account. When I asked him about it last year he still seemed to believe that Libya were responsible. |
Shayler has been challenged recently and is still peddling the official pile of muck, says alternative theories are the work of MI6/MI5 apparently!
Have you read this Flame, from the explosives expert who claims the bomb exploded amongst the passengers, i.e. no tape recorder bomb?
http://www.twa800.com/news/parkes-10-17-00.htm
What you reckon to Dean Warwick's wild missile allegations? Not heard of him or that claim until recently.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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The John Parks analysis is pretty specialised and I don't really feel qualified to comment on its substance but question how the possibilities of his conclusion might affect the overall verdict on al-Megrahi. What linked him to the tape recorder anyway?
I have only ever heard rumours about the seven survivors allegedly allowed to die. As is clear from the documentary there was a disproportionate number of Americans on the site of the crash very soon afterwards and there did not seem to be any control of forensics. A doctor on the scene who had labeled dozens of bodies says that all but two labels were removed. That seven people were allowed to die in amongst the evident chaos is not beyond any realms of possibility. But where is the evidence for a missile if the witnesses all perished?
His death might be suspicious but given what he claimed to have been about to reveal, has he not left some body of work?
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Flamesong wrote: | I'd rather not - it's a 280Mb file and I don't have the confidence in the upload technology to keep up with the upload.
I will create a torrent of it shortly and make it available on Conspiracy Central: http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/ and elswhere. That way the file quality will not be degraded. It looks like a VHS rip - it obviously predates digital technology but if you are interested it is very watchable.
I'd also recommend the Private Eye Special on Lockerbie - still available from their distributor though their website sometimes says it is sold out.
I don't think we are allowed to upload torrent files here so I'll post back when the torrent is uploaded to Conspiracy Central. |
The torrent's working fine, thanks for posting.
Only one seed at present, but I'll seed out a further 10 copies when it completes.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I'm the only seeder!
There are about 4 or 5 completed (depending on which tracker stats you look at) but as soon as they finish they clear off!
Anyway, that's what I was going to do, once I reach a ratio of 1000% I'll let it take care of itself. Thanks, check.
I don't know why the CC tracker wouldn't take it. I tried to upload it again but was told the file already exists - but it isn't in the tracker list!
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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From what I can see from the tracker information, there are very few peers remaining on this torrent so I will probably not keep seeding to 1000% as I said earlier - I'm now stalled at 409%.
I'm connected to a very small swarm of two and neither are downloading from me at present so if it continues like this I don't see the point in leaving my computer on all night.
[edit] Make that a swarm of nil!
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've seeded to 5.06, with 1 peer still going strong. I'll leave mine running a day or two longer.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Has anybody who downloaded this watched it?
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Flamesong wrote: | Has anybody who downloaded this watched it? |
I'm planning to as soon as me dinner's ready in about 20 minutes
Sedded to 14 so far - I'll take it up to 20 and make up your share.
I'll post a comment later on.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: Lockerbie trial was a CIA fix, US intelligence insider claim |
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Lockerbie trial was a CIA fix, US intelligence insider claims
http://www.sundayherald.com/59005
By Liam McDougall, Home Affairs Editor
THE CIA manipulated the Lock erbie trial and lied about the strength of the prosecution case to get a result that was politically convenient for America, according to a former US State Department lawyer.
Michael Scharf, who was the counsel to the US counter-terrorism bureau when the two Libyans were indicted for the bombing, described the case as “so full of holes it was like Swiss cheese” and said it should never have gone to trial.
He claimed the CIA and FBI had assured State Department officials there was an “iron-clad” case against Abdelbaset al-Megrahi and al-Amin Khalifa Fimah, but that in reality the intelligence agencies had no confidence in their star witness and knew well in advance of the trial that he was “a liar”.
Scharf branded the case a “whitewash” and added: “It was a trial where everybody agreed ahead of time that they were just going to focus on these two guys, and they were the fall guys.”
The comments by Scharf are controversial, given his position in US intelligence during the Lockerbie investigation and trial. It also comes at a crucial time as the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC) is to report in the coming months on whether it bel ieves there was a miscarriage of justice in the case.
In January 2001, following a trial at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands, Fimah was acquitted and al-Megrahi was sentenced to life in a Scottish jail for his part in the December 1988 bombing.
Scharf joined the State Department’s Office of the Legal Adviser for Law Enforcement and Intelligence in April 1989, just four months after Pan Am Flight 103 was downed and at the height of the CIA’s Lockerbie bombing investigation. He was also responsible for drawing up the UN Security Council resolutions that imposed sanctions on Libya in 1992 in order to force Tripoli to hand over al-Megrahi and Fimah for trial.
He added: “The CIA and the FBI kept the State Department in the dark. It worked for them for us to be fully committed to the theory that Libya was responsible. I helped the counter- terrorism bureau draft documents that described why we thought Libya was responsible, but these were not based on seeing a lot of evidence, but rather on representations from the CIA and FBI and the Department of Justice about what the case would prove and did prove.
“It was largely based on this inside guy [Libyan defector Abdul Majid Giaka]. It wasn’t until the trial that I learned this guy was a nut-job and that the CIA had absolutely no confidence in him and that they knew he was a liar.
“ It was a case that was so full of holes it was like Swiss cheese. ”
Scharf, now an international law expert at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, said he was convinced that Libya, Iran and the Palestinian terrorist group the PFLP-GC were involved in the bombing, which killed 270 people. But, he said, the case had a “diplomatic rather than a purely legal goal”.
“Now Libya has given up its weapons of mass destruction, it’s allowed inspectors in, the sanctions have been lifted, tourists from the US are flocking to see the Roman ruins outside of Tripoli and Gaddafi has become a leader in Africa rather than a pariah. And all of that is the result of this trial,” Scharf said. “Diplomatically, it has been a huge success story. But legally, it just seemed like a whitewash to me.”
Robert Black, professor of Scots law at Edinburgh University and the principal architect of the Lockerbie trial at Camp Zeist, described the Lockerbie case as “a fraud”.
“That the trial at Camp Zeist resulted in a conviction is a disgrace for Scottish justice,” he said. “I think this [Scharf’s comments] indicates that a growing number of people on both sides of the Atlantic now believe they were used in this case.”
Dr Jim Swire, who lost his daughter Flora in the bombing, said: “Myself and Michael Scharf are coming from exactly the same position. I went to the trial and became convinced after watching it unfold that the case was full of holes.”
Tony Kelly, al-Megrahi’s solicitor, said he would not comment while the SCCRC was still examining the case.
No-one at the CIA in Washington was available to comment.
12 November 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi flamesong
thanks for uploading this video. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'm downloading it now.
Cheers!
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I've come out of 911 forum retirement to post of this thread because this is a related and vital issue to what we're dealing with with covert cabals and more importantly the US/UK links to cover-ups, narco-smuggling and fake terror ops.
This is a simply stunning yet fairly complex documentary - not one if you can't pay close attention for an hour or so but I recommend anyone with a prior interest in this area watch it.
Pilger's take:
Quote: | There is a hunger among the public for documentaries because only only documentaries, at their best, are fearless and show the unpalatable and make sense of the news. The extraordinary films of Alan Francovich achieved this. Francovitch, who died in 1997 , made The Maltese Double Cross – Lockerbie. THIS destroyed the official truth that Libya was responsible for the sabotage of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie in 1988. Instead, an unwitting "mule", with links to the CIA, was alleged to have carried the bomb on board the aircraft. (Paul Foot's parallel investigation for Private Eye came to a similar conclusion). The Maltese Double Cross – Lockerbie has never been publicly screened in the United States. In this country, the threat of legal action from a US Government official prevented showings at the 1994 London Film Festival and the Institute of Contemporary Arts. In 1995, defying threats, Tam Dalyell showed it in the House of Commons, and Channel 4 broadcast it in May 1995. |
David Shayler's take on this mentioned 3 times or more I think I counted in various sources - including to me in person when I grabbed 30 seconds at an event with him - is that ' the right people are in jail' and 'Mi6 created the conspiracies surrounding the event'. This view is based on the point that whilst working @ phive D.S. "saw the papers" containing a full breakdown of all the evidence. one blatent point wth re to this is of course would an MI5/6 Dossier on the 9/11 case be anymore reliable? And is access to dossiers layered at SIS type organisations so certain people get the official line and other higher-ups get something else?
Either way Lockerbie is fundamental to what we're meant to be doing as part of the meta framework of "911 Truth" - until we as a community of activists broaden our research and move on from the narrow lens we see all too often on various media/online forums we're never going to make headway and by default we do the work of CoIntelPro type ops ourselves.
Jim Swire was my GP in the midlands as a kid - you only have to look at how the investigation has morally defeated him to know something is wrong here.
See also:
http://www.utopiated.net/narcotica/general/lockerbie_-_the_narco_traff icking__money-laundering_cover-up_of_103.html
Thanks for the upload/torrent. I've been watching a WMV version of this for years as I lost the DVD version.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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flamesong wrote: | Yes, I'm the only seeder!
There are about 4 or 5 completed (depending on which tracker stats you look at) but as soon as they finish they clear off!
I don't know why the CC tracker wouldn't take it. I tried to upload it again but was told the file already exists - but it isn't in the tracker list! |
I'll help seed this and add it to other trackers if need be.
NeoConCentral has gone up it's own arse - torrents, accounts and forum posts are routinely removed and/or edited by the two people that run the place. Plus the tracker goes down. If I were you I'd use PirateBay and another dumpsite or two - the crawlers from other tracker sites soon pick-up on piratebay's index and duplicate to other sites.
Note a more robust [and cost/blackmail free!] tracker is being launched in the next few days by conspiracyresearch.org who are a UK based site.
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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More info/posts on the Libya/Panam103 topic on this thread at the RI Board HERE.
Includes stuff on the related topic of the murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher outside the Libyan Embassy in 1984, including the fact that the Police deputy forward controller at the siege was Mr. Peter Power (now of Visor Consultants);he of simultaneous exercises involving bombs going off at the exact same stations on the morning of 7th July 2005.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Mark Gobell wrote: | Alwun kindly supplied me the WMV which I converted to a DVD.
If anyone wants a copy please PM me. |
I have a WMV version but it's literally unwatchable - you start getting increasingly frustrated with it when you can't make out half the stuff going on
Did it convert ok to DVD? I have PM'd you my details if it came out ok.
Thx
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There is an WMv of this (haven't watched yet) linked some way down this page:
http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_CIA.htm
It's about 66 megs, so prob not very good quality playback
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have both versions. The version I uploaded to the torrent trackers is quite watchable with a few glitches. The smaller version is not - that's why I scoured the internet to find a better version.
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I have just finished downloading a documentary in the 'Conspiracies' series about Lockerbie via BitTorrent - Lockerbie and the CIA.
Unfortunately, I cannot remember where it was downloaded from (the file name is a red herring) and there are a number of different versions being seeded but ther seeding has been very erratic. I realise that .torrents cannot be uploaded here so I have uploaded it to my webspace:
www.flamesong.fsnet.co.uk/911/Conspiracies_Lockerbie_and_the_CIA[www.b tmon.com].torrent
It's 365.5Mb XviD mp3 audio
I haven't even had chance to watch it but I will keep seeding it for a few days if anybody wants to download it. If anybody needs me to extend the seeding, please let me know.
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I watched the Conspiracies programme last night, Lockerbie and the CIA. For the most part it was a concise presentation of some very complex issues - ostensibly aimed at a Sky Three audience - having a long term interest in Lockerbie, I found the programme very easy to digest - perhaps a little over-cooked. But the main cruces stood up well.
That is until Danny Wallace spake thus, 'There was one man, I felt, could really give me the inside story'. 'If anyone knew what had really gone on, it was David Shayler.'
All programmes in this series lead the viewer on to believe that something is afoot only to wheel out the official account as quasi-gospel towards the end. It is a subterranean level of disinginuity when a programme relies on the evidence of somebody it has sought to discredit to deliver a coup de grace like this. The last seven minutes was seeped in hypocricy from all concerned. Nothing raised the hackles more than hearing David Shayler dismissing doubt of the official story as 'conspiracy theories'.
I first became aware of David Shayler's position on Lockerbie when he made it an irrelevant part of his 'evidence' at 'The Trial of Tony Blair', which I filmed in Manchester on 12th March 2004 - I gasped as I heard him qualifying the official account.
That he still does so and blinkers himself to the evidence in the same way that those who avert their gaze from 9/11 evidence is, for me, both puzzling and disturbing.
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We are constantly waging war against cointelpro on every dissent forum.
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