VIDEO - What The Anti-NWO Movement NEED TO UNDERSTAND!

[Moti]

VIDEO - What The Anti-NWO Movement NEED TO UNDERSTAND!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1929385033177041180&hl=en-GB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdVhMFd-hk

[John White]

Is that you in the movie Moti?

I totally agree that this is a spiritual struggle (for those who perceive divinity)

And an ethical struggle (for those who do not)

Effectively, its the same thing, seen from different POV

As communicators, we have to be careful though, its a fine line between offering a perspective and imposing on others what they should do...

Such as linking resisting the NWO with beccoming Vegitarian...

Many make that choice, its true... and we all have personal choices that appear to us self-evident...but the reality is, looking at your film from the outside, when talking with others as soon as there is anything that feels like someone "pushing" something, most minds will just shut down

[John White]

I really applaud you efforts though! I'm for anyone whose trying to do something. I hope my comments are taken as intended: to help you make an even better film

But I'm not going to tell you its great when I dont feel its working as well as it could

[Moti]

[Patrick Brown]

I think our personality reappears although I agree when your dead your dead.

I bought this book a while back 'The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind'. I keep meaning to get stuck into it although I hate reading. Anyway the book is supposed to be a classic so checkout what people say about it on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0618057072/202-0316445-227027 2?%5Fencoding=UTF8

[heart-earth]

In danish the word for :to die is the same as a door.
The word dead is an palindrom in nordic,german and dutch.
Ive even say dead is an palindrom couse the easound is a lost letter from
the Æ. The mixture of an a and an e.
My point is there´s sign of an life afther death.

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[zappasearcher]

Prasad of the Devil

Yuck, now you have opened my eyes moti, dhanyavad. jai shri ram.

in 'the hindu religion', we have prasad, which is food, fruit, flowers offered to the god/goddess. the god/ess consumes the food and we take the leftovers so we can imbibe the vibrations of the god/ess.

this is what the illuminati are doing with the meat industry. the meat is sacrificed as moti said and we go to the supermarket (temple) to collect it. the devil's prasad.

[Moti]

[Patrick Brown]

[Bicnarok]

Mixing hindu teachings, NWO and vegaterianism is rather confusing imo

We were born with meat eating teeth like other creatures who also eat meat, the question is why if its "murder" to do so. Plants are also alive, better not eat them either then, lets eat sand then. Or are plants considered a lesser being and if so who gives anyone the right to say so!!

I think the way animals are farmed and milked for financial gain is sad and disturbing though. No wonder so many animal sicknesses are comming about .

[Disco_Destroyer]

The problems with growing animal cruelty is that no one says thanks for what they recieve anymore, therefore food including animals become just a product and therefore neglected. After all what you don't know (see) can't harm you right? Most religions if not all until recently gave offerings for what we recieve from our planet!

[Bicnarok]

"there are two types of beings in this universe, the divine and the demoniac"

I disagree with this comment. What are humans then? what are angels devine, even the fallen ones?

There are many types of beings in this universe, ive met a few of them in my small experiences (obe). Even the watcher of the threshold isn´t devine or demoniac.

[Moti]

[ian neal]

[adam1]

Dear Moti,
Well done for provoking such profound and enthusiastic comment - bongo is right, this may not be strictly 9/11, but on the other hand, that so many have responded with such eye-opening spiritual comments shows the depth of feeling and profound soul-searching that characterises many within this movement.
That said, an earlier poster was correct in warning of the dangers of any organised religion or science; Krishna is just a belief sysytem dude, just like my own religion, and behind each persons epistemological framework (world view) lies the deeper reality of non-concepual awareness and knowing that is too big too fit inside any one science or religion - ooooommmmmmmmy god I've just spilt coffee on my cheese sandwich....

[scar]

One problem with telling people what not to eat is that each individual chooses their line in the sand with respect to diet. You say milk is good and yet the mal-treatment of animals in milk production is a disgrace imo among other reasons not to drink it. http://www.notmilk.com
Surely if one believes in karma in this way then the effect of consuming milk would be similar to eating meat. What about fish? What about gelatine? How about the hundreds of other products that contain meat or are derived from suffering in this way?. Where should the line be drawn?

As John said 'its a fine line between offering a perspective and imposing on others what they should do...' We all have to balance that one. I have found that offering a perspective on diet is perceived by many as imposing and i tend to steer clear of it, religious beliefs even moreso (but i like to talk about beliefs given the chance).

Whilst I agree with Brian that organised 'religion is primitive' but that doesnt mean i reject spirituality outright in opposition, which would be impossible for me anyway due to certain experiences... All this that many think is real is just a ride.

Monotheism was a necessary stage to bring pre-civilized tribespeople together under a common belief system and maintain order but is essentially the PTB seizing control of our spirituality and perverting it into social control. Monotheism is outdated, vengeful, aggressive, expansionist and intolerant. All this turns many completely away from it and Brian's posts are a good example of why.
Many divine people dont believe in a god and are certainly not 'demoniac'.

We are all spirits in vessels imo but as for oppressive belief systems and submitting, thy will be done, laying off responsibility and control of my mind to a hive authority...no thanks.

Peace and Love.

[John White]

[Moti]

The Vedic system of acquiring knowledge is the deductive process. The Vedic knowledge is received perfectly by disciplic succession from authorities. Such knowledge is never dogmatic, as ill conceived by less intelligent persons. The mother is the authority to verify the identity of the father. She is the authority for such confidential knowledge. Therefore, authority is not dogmatic. In the Bhagavad-gita this truth is confirmed in the Fourth Chapter (Bg. 4.2), and the perfect system of learning is to receive it from authority. The very same system is accepted universally as truth, but only the false arguer speaks against it. For example, modern spacecraft fly in the sky, and when scientists say that they travel to the other side of the moon, men believe these stories blindly because they have accepted the modern scientists as authorities. The authorities speak, and the people in general believe them. But in the case of Vedic truths, they have been taught not to believe. Even if they accept them they give a different interpretation. Each and every man wants a direct perception of Vedic knowledge, but foolishly they deny it. This means that the misguided man can believe one authority, the scientist, but will reject the authority of the Vedas. The result is that people have degenerated.

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According to the Vedic system, knowledge which is achieved from the greatest authority is to be considered perfect. According to the Vedas, there are three kinds of proof: pratyaksa, anumana and sabda. One is by direct visual perception. If a person is sitting in front of me, I can see him sitting there, and my knowledge of his sitting there is received through my eyes. The second method, anumana, is auricular: we may hear children playing outside, and by hearing we can conjecture that they are there. And the third method is the method of taking truths from a higher authority. Such a saying as "Man is mortal" is accepted from higher authorities. Everyone accepts this, but no one has experienced that all men are mortal. By tradition, we have to accept this. If someone asks, "Who found this truth first? Did you discover it?" it is very difficult to say. All we can say is that the knowledge is coming down and that we accept it. Out of the three methods of acquiring knowledge, the Vedas say that the third method, that of receiving knowledge from higher authorities, is the most perfect. Direct perception is always imperfect, especially in the conditional stage of life. By direct perception we can see that the sun is just like a disc, no larger than the plate we eat on. From scientists, however, we come to understand that the sun is many thousands of times larger than the earth. So what are we to accept? Are we to accept the scientific proclamation, the proclamation of authorities, or our own experience? Although we cannot ourselves prove how large the sun is, we accept the verdict of astronomers. In this way we are accepting the statements of authorities in every field of our activities. From newspapers and radio we also understand that such and such events are taking place in China and India and other places all around the earth. We're not experiencing these events directly, and we don't know that such events are actually taking place, but we accept the authority of the newspapers and radio. We have no choice but to believe authorities in order to get knowledge. And when the authority is perfect, our knowledge is perfect.
According to the Vedic sources, of all authorities Krsna is the greatest and most perfect (mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya). Not only does Krsna proclaim Himself to be the highest authority, but this is also accepted by great sages and scholars of Bhagavad-gita. If we do not accept Krsna as authority and take His words as they are, we cannot derive any benefit from Bhagavad-gita. It is not dogmatic; it is a fact. If we study

[John White]

And a copy/paste straight off a hare krishna website makes me instictively grab my hat n coat and be off.

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