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chek Mega Poster
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: History Being Changed Before Our Eyes - Help Needed |
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Hi gang - I'd like to ask as many people as possible to save the attached images, burn them to CD, forward them, upload them to your webspace and otherwise preserve them by any means.
These are the elusive 1964 White Paper by designer of the WTC John Skilling, stating that his Towers could withstand an impact by a Boeing 707 at 600mph.
I found them 5 days ago - yet now the links I obtained them from have been degraded to a tenth of the file size so as to become unreadable.
This is crucial evidence and MUST BE PRESERVED - NIST maintain these and Skilling's papers can't be located.
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Patrick Brown 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well done chek, I figured you would have saved them. _________________ We check the evidence and then archive it: www.911evidencebase.co.uk
Get the Steven E Jones reports >HERE< |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Patrick Brown wrote: | Well done chek, I figured you would have saved them. |
I wouldn't have believed it - what if it had been next week we went looking for them? |
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Patrick Brown 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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chek wrote: | Patrick Brown wrote: | Well done chek, I figured you would have saved them. |
I wouldn't have believed it - what if it had been next week we went looking for them? |
They may well have vanished for ever in that case!
I'm not 100% sure about the authenticity but they look pretty genuine to me. The very fact NIST says they can't locate these documents adds credence to their authenticity. _________________ We check the evidence and then archive it: www.911evidencebase.co.uk
Get the Steven E Jones reports >HERE< |
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Patrick Brown 9/11 Truth critic
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Page 4 of this document (section entitled Aircraft Impact): http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/chapter1.pdf
Quote: | Aircraft Impact. Buildings are not specifically designed towithstand the impact of fuel-laden commercial airliners. However, PANYNJ documents indicate that the impact of a Boeing 707 flying at 600 mph, possibly crashing into the 80th floor, was analyzed during the design of the WTC towers in February/March 1964. While NIST has not found detailed evidence of the analysis, the documents in NIST’s possession state that the postulated aircraft collision would have resulted in only local damage that would not cause collapse or substantial damage to the WTC towers. The effect of the fires due to jet fuel dispersion and ignition of building contents was not considered. The loss of life in the immediate area of aircraft impact was recognized, but the loss of life due to thegrowth and spread of fires and smoke was not considered. Building codes do not require building designs to consider
aircraft impact. |
Brings it all into focus! _________________ We check the evidence and then archive it: www.911evidencebase.co.uk
Get the Steven E Jones reports >HERE< |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Patrick Brown wrote: | chek wrote: | Patrick Brown wrote: | Well done chek, I figured you would have saved them. |
I wouldn't have believed it - what if it had been next week we went looking for them? |
They may well have vanished for ever in that case!
I'm not 100% sure about the authenticity but they look pretty genuine to me. The very fact NIST says they can't locate these documents adds credence to their authenticity. |
Panic over - they can also be found in NISTNCSTAR1-2Draft.pdf
(pages 418 - 420) which I luckily had, but seem to have been left out of
NISTNCSTAR1-2B_Chaps1-8.pdf
and NISTNCSTAR1-2B_Chaps9-11.pdf |
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andrewwatson Moderate Poster
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 348 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Fanstastic bit of research there Chek . It shows what we can all do to move things along without even leaving our desks.
I was watching EVERYBODY' GOTTA LEARN SOMETIME the other day (which I understand to be about 9/11) when one page of text really jumped out at me. I have since found it It is a book review by Garry Schmitt, the execitive irector of the infamous Projet For a New American Century of
''new Pearl Harbor '' fame.
This article was written in Novenber 2000 and is extremely revealing about the offficial mindset. I have taken the liberty to highlight certain key passages
PS If this topic has been covered recently, please point me to the thread.
34 / THEWEEKLY STANDARD NOVEMBER 20, 2000
STATE OF TERROR
War by any other name
by Gary Schmitt
In spite of the fact that virtually every major act of terrorism over
the past thirty years has been state-supported or state-directed,
Americans and their elected officials continue to interpret the phenomenon as the violent, random deeds of the world’s lunatic fringe. It’s as though we would rather see terrorism as akin to natural disasters than to policy made in an adversary’s war room.
The reason is that, as horrific as terrorism can be, its human and material costs have a minimal impact on the American population. Oh, we loudly demand that the culprits be caught and justice meted out. But that indignation passes rapidly as the terrorists’ deeds fade and the ter- rorists themselves disappear into the shadows. And the dirty little secret is that governments are often happy that’s the case. If terrorism is state-sponsored, then governments are faced with a choice between waging war in return and ignoring an act of aggression, neither of which is without consequences.
It is precisely this dilemma that Middle East scholar Laurie Mylroie exam- ines in Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein’s Unfinished War against America. Are we willing to face the fact that most terrorism consists of acts of war being waged by identifiable nations? No, says
Mylroie, as she focuses on the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the
government’s apparent willingness to ignore the evidence that pointed toward Iraq’s hand in the effort.
Instead, the effort to topple one Trade Center building into the other, bringing down both amid a cloud of cyanide gas, killing thousands in the process, has been handled by the government as a plot carried out by a loosely connected group of Islamic radicals. But, early on, as Mylroie points out, those involved in the investigation and prosecution were well aware of both the holes in this theory and the loose ends that strongly suggested Baghdad had covertly manipulated a largely inept and unimaginative group of Muslims—united only in their hatred of America—into conducting the most audacious terrorist attack ever attempted.
The key is Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind behind the February 1993 bombing. Taking on the role of detective, Mylroie shows how phone records, escape plans, doctored passports, personal histories, and physical incongruities all point to Ramzi Yousef’s being an agent of Iraqi intelligence. To this day, these leads have never been followed up by the government.
Study of Revenge argues that a significant problem in the investigation was the division of labor between the Department of Justice, whose job in these cases is to prosecute individuals, and the national security bureaucracy, whose job it is to find out whether the
terrorism has a foreign sponsor. But once a prosecution is underway, Justice’s concerns become primary, pushing all others into the background. And when the individuals have been caught, convicted, and put behind bars, Justice considers the case closed, its job done.
As one Justice Department official put it, Ramzi Yousef’s real identity is immaterial: “It doesn’t matter....We just try a body.
Of course, this bureaucratic indifference doesn’t have to rule, if the administration as a whole is interested in getting to the bottom of things. But, as Study of Revenge recounts, the last thing the Clinton White House wanted during its eight years in office was to deal with Iraq in a serious way. The list of what Hussein has done during Clinton’s watch is long: an attempt to assassinate former president Bush, a threat to re-invade Kuwait, a program to continue developing weapons of mass destruction, an attack on American-backedIraqi opposition forces, a successful effort to curtail and then end U.N. weapons inspections, and—as Mylroie contends—a global campaign of terrorism against the United States. But the Clinton administration either refused to notice or, when it did notice, acted indecisively.
The most President Clinton and this team of advisers wanted to do was
“contain” Hussein. Pursuing evidence that Iraq was behind an attempt to kill thousands of Americans in New York City on the anniversary of Iraq’s defeat in the Gulf War was an investigative road they didn’t want to go down. If it had been shown that Baghdad was involved, the administration would have been forced to take action. For Saddam Hussein, the Gulf War never ended. Coming to terms with that fact would require the American government to take steps to remove him and
his regime from power. Study of Revenge, then, ongoing war. But this war by unconventional means is not recognized as such. Rather, as Mylroie points out, the conventional wisdom is that terrorism
today is chiefly a product of transnational organizations, motivated by reli gious extremism, only loosely tied together and, more often than not,
directed and funded by a single individual, Usama bin Laden. Witness our initial reaction to the attack on the USSCole. Putting aside for the moment that even bin Laden depends on state sanctuary and state assistance to operate, isn’t it reasonable to ask what states had the most to gain from raising the price for our presence in the Gulf?
Gary Schmitt is executive director of the Project for the New American Century.
Saddam Hussein’s Unfinished
War against America
by Laurie Mylroie
AEI Press, 323 pp., $24.95
http://www.newamericancentury.org/Schmitt-112000.pdf |
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