Roger the Horse Moderate Poster
Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: 1000+ arrests. 27 found guilty. Only 9 are muslims! |
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So only 27 people have been found guilty since 9/11 and so many of these have been trumped up charges. I can't understand why so many people are falling for this terrorism rubbish!
: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6134516.stm
MI5 tracking '30 UK terror plots'
MI5 knows of 30 terror plots threatening the UK and is keeping 1,600
individuals under surveillance, the security service's head has said.
Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller warned the threat was "serious" and "growing".
She said future attacks could be chemical or nuclear and that many of the
plots were linked to al-Qaeda.
Prime Minister Tony Blair said the terrorist threat was "very real" and
spoke of "poisonous propaganda" warping the minds of young people.
Hard choices
MI5 has increased in size by nearly 50% since 9/11 and now stands at roughly
2,800 staff.
But according to Dame Eliza the current terror threat will "last a
generation" and her concern is that even with MI5's rapid growth, the
security service will not be able to investigate nearly enough of activities
it deems to be suspicious.
She said hard choices would have to be made about resources.
"I wish life were like Spooks [the TV series] where everything is, a,
knowable, and, b, soluble by six people," she explained.
Dame Eliza's warning comes days after a UK man was sentenced to at least 40 years in jail for planning a series of attacks.
Attacks planned by Dhiren Barot, 34, from London, included using a so-called "dirty bomb" using radioactive material.
Mr Blair also said he agreed with Dame Eliza's comments that the terrorist
threat would last for a generation.
"I've been saying, as you know, for several years that this terrorist threat
is very real, it's been building up over a long period of time.
"It's not just in this country, as we've seen recently from incidents in
India, France, other parts of the world. This is a threat that has grown up
over a generation."
Attacks thwarted
In response to Dame Eliza's warning, Massoud Shadjareh, of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, said he accepted there was a terrorist threat but it had to be put into perspective.
"Over 1,000 arrests have been made under anti-terrorism since 9/11 and out of those, 27 have been found guilty. Out of those 27, only nine have been Muslims," he said.
Dame Eliza, who rarely speaks in public, gave a speech to a small audience on Thursday, detailing what she believes her organisation and the UK is facing.
She said that, since the 7 July bombings, five further major conspiracies in
the UK had been thwarted.
"Today, my officers and the police are working to contend with some 200
groupings or networks, totalling over 1,600 identified individuals - and
there will be many we don't know - who are actively engaged in plotting, or facilitating, terrorist acts here and overseas," she said.
"Today we see the use of home-made improvised explosive devices.
"Tomorrow's threat may - I suggest will - include the use of chemicals,
bacteriological agents, radioactive materials and even nuclear technology."
'British foot soldiers'
Out of the 200 or so groups being watched by MI5, a smaller subset are of
the highest priority because it is feared that they are plotting actual
attacks.
"We are aware of numerous plots to kill people and to damage our economy. What do I mean by numerous? Five? Ten?
"No, nearer 30 that we currently know of.
"These plots often have linked back to al-Qaeda in Pakistan and through
those links al-Qaeda gives guidance and training to its largely British foot
soldiers here on an extensive and growing scale."
She added that of the 30 plots some may turn out to be less credible or
advanced but it would be hard to be sure until they are fully investigated.
Tory security spokesman Patrick Mercer echoed her call for more resources, saying "we just don't have enough spooks and secret agents to make sure that our country is as safe as it could be." _________________ Only sheep need a leader. |
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suspecta Minor Poster
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | "No, nearer 30 (terror cells) that we currently know of. |
What, like terror cells made up of ex-army 'Muslim converts' plus a few asylum seekers needing residency (on the MI5 payroll), an Iraq horror video or two and a couple of nutters?
In other words, phony 'terror cells' not a single genuine Muslim has ever come anywhere near?
Quote: | Tory security spokesman Patrick Mercer echoed her call for more resources, saying "we just don't have enough spooks and secret agents to make sure that our country is as safe as it could be." |
Oh, plenty of spooks. Just not the sort of spooks who make the country safe; quite the contrary in fact.
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hampton Validated Poster
Joined: 03 Sep 2005 Posts: 310 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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practically everyday there's a terror related story.
people have very short memories you know.
since when did a real terrorist plead guilty to get 40 years,
surely he would have wanted to air his views in court?
or was he paid off and walked out the back door?
and a woman was convicted of possessing a book?
under what legislation? _________________ Have No Fear! Peace, Love & Hemp is here!
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