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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: survey of Muslim opinion |
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Ruhul from the 1990 trust has sent us this
10th November 2006
PRESS RELEASE
1990 Trust survey challenges UK Spy Chief’s claims of sizeable Muslim ‘justification’ for 7/7 bombing
The findings of a new survey conducted by The 1990 Trust, are countering new claims linking sizeable Muslim support for terrorism in a hard-hitting public speech Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, Head of MI5 made yesterday.
The survey, ‘Muslim views: Foreign policy and its effects’, (sample: 1,213) carried out across the Muslim community in October concludes that there is almost no support for terrorism amongst the Muslim community with just 1% of those surveyed supporting the 7/7 London bombings.
THE REPORT CAN BE VIEWED BY LOGGING ONTO: www.blink.org.uk or clicking http://www.blink.org.uk/docs/muslim_survey_report_screen.pdf
The report directly questions Dame Manningham-Buller’s comments claiming that,"If the opinion polls conducted in the UK since July are only broadly accurate, over 100,000 of our citizens consider that the July bomb attacks in London were justified," which the Daily Express reported as ‘widespread sympathy for terrorism within Britain.’
The 1990 Trust found that surveys by respected pollsters such as ICM and YouGov are showing artificially high rates of support for extremism due to the way questions are asked, which are taken and spun by the media, and believe their new survey more accurately reflects the real views of Muslims.Dame Manningham-Buller’s speech was short on ‘radicalisation’ and the impact of UK’s foreign policy on disaffection within the Muslim community. Key points in the survey show:
91% of Muslims in Britain disagree with the UK’s foreign policy
82% of Muslims have become more radicalised in recent times but in the form of attending demonstrations, writing to their MPs etc (46%).
Less than 1% of Muslims say they obtain information on the Middle East from mosques and clerics.
The opinions held mirror attitudes in the wider society
The speech which has grabbed today’s headlines - ‘1600 young British Muslims under MI5 surveillance for plotting terror’ (Daily Mail), ‘Terrorists are recruiting in our schools, says MI5 boss’ (Daily Telegraph), ‘EVERY Briton is now a target for terrorists whatever their faith or race’ (The Sun) - threatens to further stoke hostility towards Muslims who have seen an increase in verbal and physical abuse in recent months.(See Muslim News or Islamic Human Rights Commission).
The speech, cleared by John Reid, follows on from Margaret Beckett’s comments instructing British Muslims to ‘stand up and be counted’, and are seen as softening up the public in advance of new security measures expected to by announced in the Queens Speech on Wednesday.
Karen Chouhan of the 1990 Trust said
"This is nothing short of irresponsible politicking and journalism which is designed to create a moral panic to pave the way for renewed legislative assaults on civil liberties and can only serve to fuel fears and hostility towards Muslim communities in the UK. More investment should be made in highlighting the positives of Muslim contribution, and reviewing foreign policy – these are the main two measures, which will decrease disaffection. Why is it that the positive stories don’t make the news or politicians speeches – because it doesn’t suit their agenda of maintaining the foreign policy and deflecting their blame onto Muslims"
For further information, please contact Ruhul Tarafder on 0207 582 1990 / 07956 398739 or email: ruhul@blink.org.uk
TRUSTEE, KAREN CHOUHAN IS AVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW on 07903 581968 |
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Nambo Minor Poster
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Ive become friendly with a Muslim at work since he heard me telling another colleague about 911.
This Muslim guy tells me Muslims are well aware of the bunch of government lies about 911 and Muslim terrorism.
I personally think that some young British Muslims might turn bad in the future in response to the constant attack of thier religion by the "West".
At the moment I think its a credit to them that they are acting so restrained in view of all the muderous lies that are being heaped on them. |
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tfayaz Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 102
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Nambo wrote: | I personally think that some young British Muslims might turn bad in the future in response to the constant attack of thier religion by the "West". |
If you honestly knew any Muslims, I don't think you could make such a remark.
With all due respect, I personally know more Muslims than you're ever likely to meet and can honestly say that someone like Nick Griffin poses a bigger threat to this country than Muslims. |
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suspecta Minor Poster
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I spent an evening with a group of Muslims last week and talked to some of them about all this. They told me they're totally baffled as to who the supposed extremists are, and went out of their way to be extremely kind to me and my friend who are both of Jewish origin.
The current demonisation of Muslims makes me feel sick to my stomach as it is very similar to the demonisation of Jews back in the 30's that led to the expulsion of my mother from her home and country.
I don't know how the members of the government who know about all this can live with themselves. Lets hope the stronger characters amongst the incumbent Democrats in America will bring about some sort of shift and an end to all this madness.
I've also been visiting a US forum and have been sickened to the stomach by some of the anti-Muslim rhetoric there. These people read the loathsome Jihadwatch and Dhimmiwatch and are utterly fooled by all the propaganda there.
I don't think the Muslims here in the UK are going to turn nasty - they know more than anyone how that would play right into the hands of the government so they're keeping cool and keeping their heads down. Anyway, Islam really is a religion of peace though you'd never know it in a million years from all the nonsense we've been fed by the media over the last few years.
There's got to be a sea-change - there's just got to be.
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mkpdavies Minor Poster
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Just like any section of society, Muslims have a faction of racist, facist thugs, who will do anything to get their way.
The trick is understanding this and making sure the vast majority aren't drawn into standing side by side with these people, because they feel under attack.
Just as the scumbags on the western side of things want to make us feel like we have to fear all Muslims, thus supporting them.
The extremists on both sides will try to take advantage and stoke the war of civilisations they believe will see their ideology winning through in the end.
I refuse to take either of their sides. |
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Bowery Boy Minor Poster
Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 78
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: One thing the Symdicate realy dont like |
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[quote="suspecta"]I spent an evening with a group of Muslims last week and talked to some of them about all this. They told me they're totally baffled as to who the supposed extremists are, and went out of their way to be extremely kind to me and my friend who are both of Jewish origin.
The current demonisation of Muslims makes me feel sick to my stomach as it is very similar to the demonisation of Jews back in the 30's that led to the expulsion of my mother from her home and country.
I don't know how the members of the government who know about all this can live with themselves. Lets hope the stronger characters amongst the incumbent Democrats in America will bring about some sort of shift and an end to all this madness.
I've also been visiting a US forum and have been sickened to the stomach by some of the anti-Muslim rhetoric there. These people read the loathsome Jihadwatch and Dhimmiwatch and are utterly fooled by all the propaganda there.
I don't think the Muslims here in the UK are going to turn nasty - they know more than anyone how that would play right into the hands of the government so they're keeping cool and keeping their heads down. Anyway, Islam really is a religion of peace though you'd never know it in a million years from all the nonsense we've been fed by the media over the last few years.
There's got to be a sea-change - there's just got to be.
Suspecta[/quote]
One thing the Racist/Fascist Symdicate realy dont like
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Nambo and all, it's not enough to have Muslim friends and speculate on whether or not some muslims might 'turn bad'. What I suggest is that you discuss 911 (and 7/7 if you wish), give them leaflets, DVD's, ask them to check out our sites, and if they show interest ask them to organise a meeting where you or one of us can give a DVD showing and Q&A session. The Muslims are potentially our strongest card; they are the ones being unjustly demonised and the ones who have most to gain by the truth coming out. GET RECRUITING! 911 TRUTH NEEDS MUSLIMS!! |
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blackbear Validated Poster
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 656 Location: up north
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Outsider.........muslims also have most to lose ..........Belmarsh, Guantanamo, Abu Graib, Pakistan Intelligence Services, recent court cases, etc.
Don't forget the pipeline or the holocaust against the black moustaches.
William Rodriguez.......thousands didn't turn up for work..........
9/11........good day for Israel.......
If only the muslims were as organised or had the same power as the jews in this country.! |
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