Help please

[roscoe]

I'm currently trying to find any instances where it is confirmed that the Metropolitan Police actually said in a press release/conference etc that the 7/7 bombers took the 07:40 train from Luton.

I know and believe that this train was in fact cancelled and therefore they couldn't have caught this train but I have yet to see any OFFICIAL confirmation that the Metropolitan Police said it was this train they caught.

I know that the bombers could ONLY have caught the 07:24 from Luton and even then it is extremely unlikely (almost impossbile) they could have bought a ticket and managed to get on this train.

If you look at my signature below you'll see that people will resort to any pedantry in order not to be made to accept this. The current pedantry are these:

1 The E-mails from the Thameslink officials don't show the date 2005. (Yes it's pathetic isn't it?)

2 The Metropolitan Police never said that the bombers had caught the 07:40.

Please can you help?

[frydays]

The time is confirmed in the following report by the UK Independent 13/07/05 - titled 'From Leeds to London via Luton: the deadly mission of a suicide squad....

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article298806.ece

[Adrian]

http://www.officialconfusion.com

I agree the train time issue is contentious due to there being no official reference found in any police statements. I looked everywhere quite a while ago.

The police did apparently say the 0740 early on - I believe this was televised.

The question should be where is the CCTV of the men alighting the train at Thameslink, KC. There is no way unless the cameras weren't working that they could have avoided the cameras on the platforms and in the station see http://www.officialconfusion.com/Articles/Images/278images.html. I haven't been there but I presume the situation in Luton is the same.

The CCTV would resolve this train time issue in an instance and the authorities must have them. They say they have CCTV of them at Kings Cross at 0826 - http://cms.met.police.uk/news/major_operational_announcements/terroris t_attacks/press_conference_pictures_of_hasib_hussain_released http://cms.met.police.uk/news/major_operational_announcements/terroris t_attacks/press_conference_5pm_july_12 and we know the Luton CCTV image is timestamped 0721 and 54 seconds.

It would be interesting to see if the 'investigation' has actually confirmed which train the men got (if any) - but I suggest lets not waste too much time on this.

http://www.officialconfusion.com/headlines.html

[frydays]

[Adrian]

I have the full document in question and other sources which state different train times - the point I was making is that there is no official police release stating 0740 or 0748 for that matter. If my memory serves me correctly the Independent actually reported they got the 0724 aswell.

Will try and find that doc to be sure, but my point remains - I haven't found anything 'official' to confirm the police think they got the 0740, 0748 etc

http://www.officialconfusion.com/headlines.html

[ian neal]

I know what you're after Adrian. I had a look and have yet to find a public record that the police said it was definately x train, but I will keep probing

[Prole]

I have information from the British Transport Police re: times trains left Kings Cross and train timetables on my blog:
http://bridgetdunnes.blogspot.com/

According to tonights (27/10/05) BBC2 Horizon programme the train they supposedly took from Luton Thameslink station left at 7.48 am, this arrived at Kings Cross at 8.42 am which would mean it would have been impossible to have boarded these underground trains.