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Ally
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 Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: 911blogger.com=cointelpro |
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Everyone here's been strangely quite over the massive split between Jones and Fetzer. Seems Jones has taken control of St911 and booted out Fetzer and Siegel because he deems himself the greatest authority on WTC demolition despite his paper on it having NEVER been peer reviewed.
I had the gaul to question certain people on that site and got locked out from posting comments last week, now I can't even view their site.
Shady beyond belief, never did trust Albanese or Gold.
You just need to see the hideous things they are saying to Fetzer along with their little troupe of shills.
Glad they exposed themselves, another bunch of shills people don't need to waste their energy on.
I just got this:
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Hazzard
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Everyone is quiet about it becuase they know that it is a contentious issue that will harm the movement.
I say again, forget how and concentrate on who.
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Ally
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Hazzard wrote: | Everyone is quiet about it becuase they know that it is a contentious issue that will harm the movement.
I say again, forget how and concentrate on who. |
Tommy Sheridan's SOLIDARITY PARTY are starting have more credibility as I've not seen much solidarity in the 9/11 one.
LOL.
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fixuplooksharp
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i have come to the conclusion that on 911blogger they onyl want to push the CD evidence and not so much the paper trail.
very annoying |
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Fallious
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| Beam Weapon and No Plane theories are badly flawed and have very little corroborating evidence. Anyone who gives them enough credit to do the kind of damage Fetzer has done is either a shill or stupid. |
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andyb
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: 911blogger.com=cointelpro |
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| Ally wrote: | Everyone here's been strangely quite over the massive split between Jones and Fetzer. Seems Jones has taken control of St911 and booted out Fetzer and Siegel because he deems himself the greatest authority on WTC demolition despite his paper on it having NEVER been peer reviewed.
I had the gaul to question certain people on that site and got locked out from posting comments last week, now I can't even view their site.
Shady beyond belief, never did trust Albanese or Gold.
You just need to see the hideous things they are saying to Fetzer along with their little troupe of shills.
Glad they exposed themselves, another bunch of shills people don't need to waste their energy on.
I just got this:
| Quote: | You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.
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If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail address or phone number that may be listed on the www.911blogger.com home page.
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what had you posted on their forum? Was it threatening and abusive by any chance?
911blogger is a space for 9/11 events and mainstream media coverage, not internal 911 disputes. They don't talk about no-pnaes or beam weapons as they don't make the news for some reason.
Oh and didn't Albanese produce Everybody's Gotta learn Sometime?
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Andrew Johnson
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Haven't been on the forum much due to lots of work and disk copying and booklet printing and binding to send to several people.
The situation between Fetzer and Jones is still developing. I am considering writing an article about it sometime soon.
Fallious makes bold statements, with which I largely disagree. He uses language very similar to that which was used to argue against CD.
911Blogger gets far more traffic than www.st911.org.
Yes, there are some goings on behind the scenes - some strange e-mails flying about too.
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andyb
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Can any NBB'er please explain how all photographs and video footage was doctored. This invloves proving that all the ones out there are fake.
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fixuplooksharp
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[quote="andyb"]Can any NBB'er please explain how all photographs and video footage was doctored. This invloves proving that [b]all[/b] the ones out there are fake.[/quote]
they cant do that
dont be silly :lol: |
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Fallious
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| Andrew Johnson wrote: | Haven't been on the forum much due to lots of work and disk copying and booklet printing and binding to send to several people.
The situation between Fetzer and Jones is still developing. I am considering writing an article about it sometime soon.
Fallious makes bold statements, with which I largely disagree. He uses language very similar to that which was used to argue against CD.
911Blogger gets far more traffic than www.st911.org.
Yes, there are some goings on behind the scenes - some strange e-mails flying about too. |
What can I say? I give as much as I take  |
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Ally
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| andyb wrote: | | Can any NBB'er please explain how all photographs and video footage was doctored. This invloves proving that all the ones out there are fake. |
Can Andyb explain why there isn't enough scientific evidence to prove the WTC was blown the fuk up?
As for you attacks on Killtown on the MT forum, he's one the few people to have actually done ORIGINAL research in the last year or two.
What have you added my friend? ZILCH. |
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Ally
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| Fallious wrote: | | Beam Weapon and No Plane theories are badly flawed and have very little corroborating evidence. Anyone who gives them enough credit to do the kind of damage Fetzer has done is either a shill or stupid. |
You've only been here a month and judging from your output are possibly stupid or a shill with no credibility thus far? |
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Ally
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Graham
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ok. I have a super high res 18mb photo of flt 175 coming into the tower. I can't see any photoshopping, niether can others I have given it too. I would appreciate the opinions of others on here.
is there any way I can upload a file that size somewhere? I have no webspace at the moment, and can't email a file that size. |
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Ally
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Open a photobucket.com account to store all your stuff in, they will give you URLs & HTMLs through which you can post on forums etc.
Maybe you know all this.
Is it a still you have? Who is it credited to?
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Fallious
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| Ally wrote: | | Fallious wrote: | | Beam Weapon and No Plane theories are badly flawed and have very little corroborating evidence. Anyone who gives them enough credit to do the kind of damage Fetzer has done is either a shill or stupid. |
You've only been here a month and judging from your output are possibly stupid or a shill with no credibility thus far? |
Whatever. If you'd been paying attention you'd know i've got nothing against the discussion of these theories, indeed, I enjoy it a great deal. My point is that they currently don't have nearly enough evidence to support such an insane public war as Fetzer and Jones have got involved in.
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Thermate
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| Graham wrote: | | ok. I have a super high res 18mb photo of flt 175 coming into the tower. |
Would love a copy of that, perhaps site can host?
On the Jones-Fetzer thing, I think its a real shame. I too can't understand Fetzer's motive for suddenly wanting to scientifically analyse any and every theory however bizarre. It doesn't help the movement and more importantly goes against Occam's Razor which he has quoted in the past.
Fetzer smells of fish.
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Ally
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Thermate wrote: | .
Fetzer smells of fish. |
And how does that help anybody?
Have you actually read Fetzer's response on 911blogger to all those abusing him and telling him to retire?
He buys into nothing yet but is open to investigating the avenues thrown up at him.
To me knowledge he ain't a 'no-planer' either.
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andyb
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| Ally wrote: | | andyb wrote: | | Can any NBB'er please explain how all photographs and video footage was doctored. This invloves proving that all the ones out there are fake. |
Can Andyb explain why there isn't enough scientific evidence to prove the WTC was blown the fuk up?
As for you attacks on Killtown on the MT forum, he's one the few people to have actually done ORIGINAL research in the last year or two.
What have you added my friend? ZILCH. |
I had no idea Killtown was on the MT forum. If there is so much scientific evidence then why is it not generally accepted in the scientific community yet? If it was that strong a case then we wouldn't be here.
I've never claimed to be a researcher Ally and I don't dispute Killtown's commitment to research either. I just asked a simple question as to how all the images of planes seen on that day were faked. I'm happy to accept the theory if you can prove they are all fake, in fact most here would back the theory if this could be proved.
Oh and you didn't adrress the question regarding your posts on 911blogger.com I'm pretty certain you went wading in threatening and abusing all and sundry as that appears to be your usual modus operandi.
As to what I have done, for the campaign, a whole lot more than you. You don't even appear to be actively involved in any local groups.
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Ally
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Carry on exposing your ignorance about everyone and everything, it's about all I've seen you do.
I give up some time ago trying to discuss the fakes we were shown on TV, I thought it was so in your face obvious until I was accused of 'harming the movement'. I'm only interested in one that is honest so the one which you represent is one I'm not party to.
If you can show me evidence I abused and threatened people on 911blogger there's a hundred quid in the post. Otherwise shut yer lying trap. |
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andyb
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| Ally wrote: | Carry on exposing your ignorance about everyone and everything, it's about all I've seen you do.
I give up some time ago trying to discuss the fakes we were shown on TV, I thought it was so in your face obvious until I was accused of 'harming the movement'. I'm only interested in one that is honest so the one which you represent is one I'm not party to.
If you can show me evidence I abused and threatened people on 911blogger there's a hundred quid in the post. Otherwise shut yer lying trap. |
Ally, I asked you what you had posted, you fail to answer. I didn't say you were definately abusive but I don't think 911blogger would have cut your account just like that, there are quite a few NBBers on there so I doubt that was the reason. What did you post under and we can all go and have a look.
I ask you to explain how all the photo's were faked, yet you deem it to obvious to warrant doing so. In no way have you given up this theory or posting about it. I have no problem with you doing so. It would help your argument though if you could do this without getting so aggressive.
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Ally
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The only good reason I can think they cut me off from accessing their site is they found themselves linked to my recent blog. Seems not everyone shares my opinion on free speech.
The 9/11 Half-Truth Movement |
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THETRUTHWILLSETU3
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| andyb wrote: | | Ally wrote: | Carry on exposing your ignorance about everyone and everything, it's about all I've seen you do.
I give up some time ago trying to discuss the fakes we were shown on TV, I thought it was so in your face obvious until I was accused of 'harming the movement'. I'm only interested in one that is honest so the one which you represent is one I'm not party to.
If you can show me evidence I abused and threatened people on 911blogger there's a hundred quid in the post. Otherwise shut yer lying trap. |
Ally, I asked you what you had posted, you fail to answer. I didn't say you were definately abusive but I don't think 911blogger would have cut your account just like that, there are quite a few NBBers on there so I doubt that was the reason. What did you post under and we can all go and have a look.
I ask you to explain how all the photo's were faked, yet you deem it to obvious to warrant doing so. In no way have you given up this theory or posting about it. I have no problem with you doing so. It would help your argument though if you could do this without getting so aggressive. |
Errrrrr - how about cut and paste |
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andyb
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| Ally wrote: | The only good reason I can think they cut me off from accessing their site is they found themselves linked to my recent blog. Seems not everyone shares my opinion on free speech.
The 9/11 Half-Truth Movement |
Still haven't answered my questions Ally. I'm honoured to get a mention in your myspace although you didn't use my name  Nice way to win friends though Ally. If you think we are @!£$ then why do you frequent here so often. If I was a mod I would ban you for the slanderous blog.
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: |
Errrrrr - how about cut and paste |
even on 35mm?
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ian neal
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Yes I thought that blog might be all your hard work.
Who the * do you think you are Ally?
No-one has censored you here. But seeing as you reckon this forum is run by C**** for C****, I'm struggling to understand why you are still posting here.
In future post in critics corner. You'll feel right at home I'm sure.
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